Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:49:45PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 08:35 +1000, Nathan Delboux wrote: Does anyone know if the Classic Gnome would become an option to use if we don't like Gnome 3? or are just used to Gnome classic? I'm all for change and don't really mind which way that Fedora heads but i heard Ubuntu may have it an option with their Unity interface. Good to keep the options open You're not likely to get much traction for this. The GNOME team doesn't really want to continue supporting the 2.x line. You'll get some bugfix support for it if you're running RHEL or its clones, but I highly doubt that anyone is going to be sufficiently interested to maintain a complete desktop environment that's abandoned by its upstream. Sorry? We have GNOME fallback in 3.x. The GNOME panel appearance has been changed to match the way GNOME shell looks, but 1) you can change that and 2) it is maintained. Due to all the platform changes, a few applets weren't ported in 3.0, but there will be more applets in 3.2. A lot of work has gone into GNOME panel and GNOME applets, totally opposite from being abandoned. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 11:46 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 06:49:45PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 08:35 +1000, Nathan Delboux wrote: Does anyone know if the Classic Gnome would become an option to use if we don't like Gnome 3? or are just used to Gnome classic? I'm all for change and don't really mind which way that Fedora heads but i heard Ubuntu may have it an option with their Unity interface. Good to keep the options open You're not likely to get much traction for this. The GNOME team doesn't really want to continue supporting the 2.x line. You'll get some bugfix support for it if you're running RHEL or its clones, but I highly doubt that anyone is going to be sufficiently interested to maintain a complete desktop environment that's abandoned by its upstream. Sorry? We have GNOME fallback in 3.x. The GNOME panel appearance has been changed to match the way GNOME shell looks, but 1) you can change that and 2) it is maintained. Due to all the platform changes, a few applets weren't ported in 3.0, but there will be more applets in 3.2. A lot of work has gone into GNOME panel and GNOME applets, totally opposite from being abandoned. I was talking about the actual Gnome 2 desktop environment, not fallback mode (which if I understand correctly is more of a skin on top of Gnome 3 than an actual feature-for-feature replica of Gnome 2) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
I must be missing all the ported applets - where are they? I am thinking of - system monitoring applet, sensors applets, weather applet? On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: A lot of work has gone into GNOME panel and GNOME applets, totally opposite from being abandoned. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 07:10:12AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I was talking about the actual Gnome 2 desktop environment, not fallback mode (which if I understand correctly is more of a skin on top of Gnome 3 than an actual feature-for-feature replica of Gnome 2) I already mentioned that is not the case[1] See e.g. http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead,-long-live-gnome-panel! -- Regards, Olav [1] aside from I mentioned: a few applets + layout -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:20:13PM +0200, Albert de Jongh wrote: I must be missing all the ported applets - where are they? I am thinking of - system monitoring applet, sensors applets, weather applet? weather is still coming, see http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-applets/tree/NEWS (get gnome-applets 3.1.1) The other ones not sure, I thought they were already ported. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
Olav - there is no gnome-applets for gnome 3 currently packaged in fedora 15. Unless I am really missing something. I can only find the following in the repo: Available Packages Name: gnome-applets Arch: i686 Epoch : 1 Version : 2.32.0 Release : 3.fc15 On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 01:20:13PM +0200, Albert de Jongh wrote: I must be missing all the ported applets - where are they? I am thinking of - system monitoring applet, sensors applets, weather applet? weather is still coming, see http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-applets/tree/NEWS (get gnome-applets 3.1.1) The other ones not sure, I thought they were already ported. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:55:14PM +0200, Albert de Jongh wrote: Olav - there is no gnome-applets for gnome 3 currently packaged in fedora 15. Unless I am really missing something. I can only find the following in the repo: Ah ok, didn't know. Then you'll have it in F16. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
Does anyone know if the Classic Gnome would become an option to use if we don't like Gnome 3? or are just used to Gnome classic? I'm all for change and don't really mind which way that Fedora heads but i heard Ubuntu may have it an option with their Unity interface. Good to keep the options open Cheers Nathan On 06/03/2011 08:00 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: Send users mailing list submissions to users@lists.fedoraproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at users-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Fedora 15 boot delays - (Joe Zeff) 2. Re: Fedora 15 boot delays - (Tom Horsley) 3. Re: Fedora 15 boot delays - (Frank Murphy) 4. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Lars E. Pettersson) 5. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Genes MailLists) 6. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Joe Zeff) 7. Anaconda fails when installing F15 on VirtualBox (aloys...@lavabit.com) 8. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Digimer) 9. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Pasha R) 10. Re: Fedora 15 boot delays - (Bob Goodwin) 11. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Rahul Sundaram) 12. Re: Preupgrade fc14 to fc15 failed, kernel is not installed (Kevin J. Cummings) 13. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Ron Yorston) 14. Re: How to choose network path with two internet connection (Kevin J. Cummings) 15. Re: Routing not working (JB) 16. /var/cache/abrt-di (Ranjan Maitra) 17. Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3 (Lars E. Pettersson) 18. Re: Preupgrade fc14 to fc15 failed, kernel is not installed (Joe Zeff) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 08:35 +1000, Nathan Delboux wrote: Does anyone know if the Classic Gnome would become an option to use if we don't like Gnome 3? or are just used to Gnome classic? I'm all for change and don't really mind which way that Fedora heads but i heard Ubuntu may have it an option with their Unity interface. Good to keep the options open You're not likely to get much traction for this. The GNOME team doesn't really want to continue supporting the 2.x line. You'll get some bugfix support for it if you're running RHEL or its clones, but I highly doubt that anyone is going to be sufficiently interested to maintain a complete desktop environment that's abandoned by its upstream. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 15 Classic gnome option
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