How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi,
I found this article:
http://blog.shadypixel.com/safely-removing-external-drives-in-linux/

It explains how properly to unmount, eject and remove sata hdd drives
from linux machines.
The issue is that I can't find scsiadd tool for Fedora.

What is the correct and proper way to unmount and remove hotswappable
sata drives with fedora tools?

Cheers,
Valent.

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Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 10/10/2011 03:32:33 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I found this article:
 http://blog.shadypixel.com/safely-removing-external-drives-in-linux/
 
 It explains how properly to unmount, eject and remove sata hdd drives
 from linux machines.
 The issue is that I can't find scsiadd tool for Fedora.
 
 What is the correct and proper way to unmount and remove hotswappable
 sata drives with fedora tools?
 
 Cheers,
 Valent.
 

You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary 
site is down, but you can find it here: 
http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/



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Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Emmett Culley
On 10/10/2011 12:24 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 You will have to build it from source. What appears to be the primary
 site is down, but you can find it here:
 http://fossies.org/linux/misc/scsiadd-1.97.tar.gz/
 
 Is scsiadd really necessary ?
 
 I tried using umount then eject but I get this error:
  eject: device /dev/sdb doesn't have a removable or hotpluggable flag
 
 Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable?

For non raid drives all I ever have to do is umount the drives partitons.  Once 
that is successful the drive can be removed.  However, if you have smartctl 
running, it will start to complain until you put the drive back in.  Or you 
could restart smartctl with the drive removed.

With raid drives I user mdadm to first fail the partitions on the drive to be 
remove/replaced, if they haven't failed already.  (Use cat /proc/mdstat to see 
current status of all raid drives.)

Then use mdadm to remove those partitions from the raid drive.  Then the drive 
can be removed/replaced.

Emmett
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Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:24:28 +0200
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable?

Nope, just esata drives (don't know exactly what the
difference is, but there is a difference of some kind).
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Re: How to properly eject / remove hotswappable sata drive?

2011-10-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 21:24 +0200, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aren't all sata drives removable and hotpluggable?

No.  Both the drive and the host interface have to support it.  You
should be able to expect ESATA (external SATA) connected drives and
hosts to support it, because external drives need hotplug support.  You
should expect internal ones not to, and consider it a bonus if they do.

How do you tell ESATA apart from SATA?  Well, for one thing, there's
different plugs.  The ESATA plug is slightly more robust, as it needs to
be, to survive being plugged and unplugged, a lot.  Unfortunately, I
don't think it's robust enough.

As far as properly unmounting drives go.  In this day and age, you
shouldn't have to go through some other utility.  You should be able to
click on a drive's desktop icon and unmount/eject it from there.  Also,
if a drive has buttons, you should be able to press something on the
drive to initiate a disconnect.  If not, the designer is a cretin,
because users expect to be able to simply connect and disconnect things,
without having to go through some procedure.

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