Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/28/24 15:04, Michael Hennebry wrote:

If you are really makking the spin yourself,


I am just downloading it

https://fedoraproject.org/spins/mate/


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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Sat, 27 Apr 2024, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
for him to play with before we jump ahead.

Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
with?


If you are really makking the spin yourself,
you should be able to put anything you want on it.
I infer that you are actually copying a .iso file to a USB stick.

I have on occasion installed a Fedora system onto
an SD card sitting in a USB SD card reader/writer.
Do the install.
Update.
Add stuff you want.
Hand it to customer.
You might want to make /bin /usr/bin and some
other directories and their files unwriteable.

Another possibility.
IIRC a .iso file will boot from a partition.
Give the flash device two partitions.
Make the first partition a copy of the .iso file.
In the other partition, put a bunch of .rpm's
and a script that the customer can click on.

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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Mike Wright

On 4/27/24 21:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
for him to play with before we jump ahead.

Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
with?


https://www.baeldung.com/linux/easy2boot-live-usb-persistence
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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Barry


> On 28 Apr 2024, at 05:21, ToddAndMargo via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
> drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
> with?

What I do is use the installer USB to install onto a second USB device.
The second one will have writable space that you can install software in the 
normal way.

Barry
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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 1:21 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
> talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
> for him to play with before we jump ahead.
>

I'm seeing some large organizations interested in getting away
from Windows -- they can drop in systems (ones that won't run
Win 11 and otherwise headed to a reseller/recycler) with Linux
configured for their use cases.


>
> Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
> drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
> with?
>

The Live USB isn't suitable for such demo installs.   Fedora
runs well on portable USB3 SSD's (I have one NVMe and one
SATA case with 128 and 256 GB drives removed from Windows
systems that needed more space).  These give "full" experience.
Nvidia graphics may be an issue -- the Live Environment provides
nouveau which may not meet the needs of some users.

Over the years I've introduced Unix (SGI IRIX64, NeXT) and Linux
to many users (mostly PhD level biologists whose previous experience
was on Windows or macOS) because they needed to use some niche
command-line software for batch processing.

A few users refuse to use command-line and shell processing, and would
spend days with an editor creating a ".bat" script and fixing typos in
100's
of lines that only differed in file names.

Users new to Linux need (now more than ever as web searches increasingly
provide bad advice) to have a trustworthy reference such as Linux Command
on their machine.   For Fedora, you might add basic references for
journalctl
and SElinux.

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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:21 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
> talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
> for him to play with before we jump ahead.
>
> Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
> drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
> with?
>

There used to be a way to make it semi-permanent but I don't think that's
supported anymore. But it would only record changes to the file system (all
changes were appended) so you would eventually use up the space.

In this case I might be tempted to do a real install to a USB stick or
similar. I actually had a full install on a M.2 SATA in a USB 3.0 enclosure.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Sam Varshavchik

ToddAndMargo via users writes:


Hi All,

I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
for him to play with before we jump ahead.

Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
with?


iso9660 is pretty much a read-only format. If there's a spare USB port on  
the hardware you can put more stuff on a separate USB stick and mount it.




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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 4/28/24 01:51, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
for him to play with before we jump ahead.

Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
with?


Can't you you install them on the running system?

poc


No.  The customer wants to play with it to see if he
want to ditch Windows 11 or not.  If he likes Fedora,
then yes.
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Re: Live USB extra space

2024-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-04-27 at 21:21 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
> talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
> for him to play with before we jump ahead.
> 
> Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
> drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
> with?

Can't you you install them on the running system?

poc
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Live USB extra space

2024-04-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora.  I
talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive
for him to play with before we jump ahead.

Question:  Is there a way to use the extra space on the
drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment
with?

Many thanks,
-T


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