Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 01/12/2020 01:54 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/1/20 08:12, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/11/2020 05:54 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Why would you do that when you can simply install F31 over your existing installation? F31 was an upgrade from F30 and I don't have the root account enabled to be able to reissue the dnf upgrade command. So? Just create a LiveUSB of F31 and use that to reinstall. HTH, HAND. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 1/12/20 12:53 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/1/20 04:18, Doug H. wrote: On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:54 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Nope, lots of simpler methods... 1. Of course, if you have the root password you can give your user sudo. 2. Boot to a maintenance CD and set a root password. I don't have the root account enabled and I don't have a maintenance CD for F31 as it was an upgrade from F30, which was an upgrade from F29. If you're comfortable with the command line, you can download the netinstall ISO and use rescue mode. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 1/12/20 12:54 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: On 12/1/20 08:12, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/11/2020 05:54 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Why would you do that when you can simply install F31 over your existing installation? F31 was an upgrade from F30 and I don't have the root account enabled to be able to reissue the dnf upgrade command. Ok, but if you're wanting to end up at F31 and you're reinstalling anyway, why start with F29 instead of just using the F31 installer? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 13/1/20 07:29, Stephen Morris wrote: On 13/1/20 03:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/11/20 6:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-12 10:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the "wheel" group. Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user. I also should have asked "how" the OP lost admin privileges since it was stated by the OP "Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers" which is inconsistent with the the "wheel" group assumption. For a typical user, not being able to use sudo would mean not being in sudoers. And in a way it's correct. If you aren't in the wheel group, you're not included by the sudoers file any more. Hi Samuel and ED, I encountered this issue as I was trying Gnome under Xorg and KDE as the upgrade I did from F30 to F31 has caused Wayland to not work properly on my system. I have another thread around the Wayland issue (as a side issue to this, in another vm image I reinstalled F29 from scratch and upgraded it to F31 and the Wayland issue still occurs). While I was checking whether KDE exhibited the issues I was looking at my account in settings and it had and it had the administrative privileges checkbox set. Incorrectly thinking that meant that administrative privileges were permanently set rather than through sudo, I unchecked the setting. After this I tried to use kwrite to update /etc/default/grub, as the upgrade to F31 overwrote the changes I had in there, but kwrite was unable to save my changes because I was not in sudoers. I also tried using sudo in both a KDE and Gnome shell, under KDE and Gnome, and under both when I used it I got the message that I wasn't in the sudoers list and that the violation would be reported. I do not have the root user active, as having installed KDE from Gnome via the Plasma group in dnf, I was not prompted to supply a root password, and I also thought that Fedora was like other distributions and disallowed the use of the root account. Following the instructions in the link provided by Patrick Laimbock I have enabled the root account by setting its password, and used it to add the administrative privilege back to my account under KDE. In testing whether the Wayland issue happened on a new account, I created an account for my wife which I have also added the administrative privilege to so that I have a backup account I can use if I cause this issue again. regards, Steve regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 12/1/20 08:12, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/11/2020 05:54 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Why would you do that when you can simply install F31 over your existing installation? F31 was an upgrade from F30 and I don't have the root account enabled to be able to reissue the dnf upgrade command. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 12/1/20 04:18, Doug H. wrote: On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:54 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Nope, lots of simpler methods... 1. Of course, if you have the root password you can give your user sudo. 2. Boot to a maintenance CD and set a root password. I don't have the root account enabled and I don't have a maintenance CD for F31 as it was an upgrade from F30, which was an upgrade from F29. regards, Steve regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 13/1/20 03:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/11/20 6:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-12 10:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the "wheel" group. Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user. I also should have asked "how" the OP lost admin privileges since it was stated by the OP "Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers" which is inconsistent with the the "wheel" group assumption. For a typical user, not being able to use sudo would mean not being in sudoers. And in a way it's correct. If you aren't in the wheel group, you're not included by the sudoers file any more. Hi Samuel and ED, I encountered this issue as I was trying Gnome under Xorg and KDE as the upgrade I did from F30 to F31 has caused Wayland to not work properly on my system. I have another thread around the Wayland issue (as a side issue to this, in another vm image I reinstalled F29 from scratch and upgraded it to F31 and the Wayland issue still occurs). While I was checking whether KDE exhibited the issues I was looking at my account in settings and it had and it had the administrative privileges checkbox set. Incorrectly thinking that meant that administrative privileges were permanently set rather than through sudo, I unchecked the setting. After this I tried to use kwrite to update /etc/default/grub, as the upgrade to F31 overwrote the changes I had in there, but kwrite was unable to save my changes because I was not in sudoers. I also tried using sudo in both a KDE and Gnome shell, under KDE and Gnome, and under both when I used it I got the message that I wasn't in the sudoers list and that the violation would be reported. I do not have the root user active, as having installed KDE from Gnome via the Plasma group in dnf, I was not prompted to supply a root password, and I also thought that Fedora was like other distributions and disallowed the use of the root account. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 1/11/20 6:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-12 10:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the "wheel" group. Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user. I also should have asked "how" the OP lost admin privileges since it was stated by the OP "Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers" which is inconsistent with the the "wheel" group assumption. For a typical user, not being able to use sudo would mean not being in sudoers. And in a way it's correct. If you aren't in the wheel group, you're not included by the sudoers file any more. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 2020-01-12 10:24, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled. I was prompted for the >> root PW and it does as expected. >> Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done. > > Sure, but by default there is no root password and the user doesn't have > permission to change anything. The OP did not indicate that that root hasn't been enabled. FWIW, the OP indicated that KDE was being used. Unlike a GNOME install, the KDE install does have a prompt for enabling the root user. So, and I should have asked, it wasn't clear if the root was enabled or not. No one else asked that Q. So, it seems, assumptions were being made. > >> FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the >> user in the "wheel" >> group. > > Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user. I also should have asked "how" the OP lost admin privileges since it was stated by the OP "Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers" which is inconsistent with the the "wheel" group assumption. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 1/11/20 5:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-12 08:40, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote: By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have unchecked the box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"? If so, they why not just check it again? Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have permission to change it again. Have you tried it??? I have I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled. I was prompted for the root PW and it does as expected. Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done. Sure, but by default there is no root password and the user doesn't have permission to change anything. FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the "wheel" group. Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 2020-01-12 09:18, Ed Greshko wrote: > Kindly just dismiss what someone says without knowing what they've done. Of course I meant to type... Kindly *don't* just dismiss what someone. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 2020-01-12 08:40, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account >>> under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege >>> has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to >>> get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? >> >> Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you >> have unchecked the >> box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"? >> >> If so, they why not just check it again? > > Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have permission > to change it again. Have you tried it??? I have I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled. I was prompted for the root PW and it does as expected. Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done. Kindly just dismiss what someone says without knowing what they've done. FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the "wheel" group. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:54 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > By mistake I removed administration privileges from my > account > under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the > privilege > has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I > have > to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? > > regards, > Steve You should be able to boot into a root shell by entering grub and adding "init=/bin/bash" to the end of your kernel command line. You can probably find detailed instructions with some googling, but basically after you do that you can remount the root drive as read/write and then readd your user to the wheel (admin) group. -ben signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote: By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have unchecked the box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"? If so, they why not just check it again? Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have permission to change it again. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 01/11/2020 05:54 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Why would you do that when you can simply install F31 over your existing installation? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote: > By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under > kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has > removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get > it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have unchecked the box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"? If so, they why not just check it again? -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
RE: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
> Hi, > By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account > under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege > has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have > to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? Use the procedure below to add yourself back to sudoers https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Changing_and_Resetting_the_Root_Password.html#proc-Resetting_the_Root_Password_Using_rd.break Best, Patrick ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account
Hi, By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31? regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
