Re: Password trouble
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 08:06:23PM -, Beartooth wrote: ... > > # passwd xxx > Changing password for user xxx. > New password: > BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based on a > dictionary word > Retype new password: > > [at this point I gave it her password anyway.] > > passwd: all authentication tokens updated successfully. > Back in my UNIX days, when password minimum length was 5 characters, I found if I repeatedly entered the same too short password, after about 4 complaints it silently accepted the bad password :)) jl -- Jon H. LaBadie jo...@jgcomp.com ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
That was a miss-send. Please ignore. On Tue, 2020-02-25 at 21:52 -0500, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 18:23 +, Beartooth wrote: > > I had set my wife an account on one of my computers recently, > > a > > Thinkpad E-series using MATE User Manager under F31. I suppose I > > may > > have > > failed to set her password, though I doubt that intensely. > > > > This is a machine that never leaves my desk, despite being a > > laptop. > > > > I typed in her usual password for logging in; I got this: > > > > su - tslg > > You are required to change your password immediately > > (administrator enforced) > > New password: > > BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based > > on a > > dictionary word > > su: Authentication token manipulation error > > > > Just for the record, it consists of first letters of a line of > > poetry, and does not resemble any word in any of the several > > languages I > > know. (The app is probably just complaining of the length.) Nor had > > I > > enforced any such requirement, nor would I. > > > > useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even > > root > > to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? > > -- > > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is > > Suppose I try the obvious: delete and re-add her. (She has not > > yet > > touched this particular machine, so the account is still empty.) > > Will > > she > > or I then be able to set the password she chooses? > > > > I don't mind an OS warning me of hazards I can judge better > > than > > it can; but I do take it amiss to be forbidden something trivial. > > -- > > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is > > ___ > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (o) +1 706 850-8773 | m...@wittsend.com /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (c) +1 678 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ ARIN whois: MHW9-ARIN | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xC0EB9675674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 18:23 +, Beartooth wrote: > I had set my wife an account on one of my computers recently, > a > Thinkpad E-series using MATE User Manager under F31. I suppose I may > have > failed to set her password, though I doubt that intensely. > >This is a machine that never leaves my desk, despite being a > laptop. > >I typed in her usual password for logging in; I got this: > > su - tslg > You are required to change your password immediately > (administrator enforced) > New password: > BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based > on a > dictionary word > su: Authentication token manipulation error > > Just for the record, it consists of first letters of a line of > poetry, and does not resemble any word in any of the several > languages I > know. (The app is probably just complaining of the length.) Nor had > I > enforced any such requirement, nor would I. > > useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even > root > to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is > Suppose I try the obvious: delete and re-add her. (She has not > yet > touched this particular machine, so the account is still empty.) Will > she > or I then be able to set the password she chooses? > > I don't mind an OS warning me of hazards I can judge better > than > it can; but I do take it amiss to be forbidden something trivial. > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Michael H. Warfield (AI4NB) | (o) +1 706 850-8773 | m...@wittsend.com /\/\|=mhw=|\/\/ | (c) +1 678 463-0932 | http://www.wittsend.com/mhw/ ARIN whois: MHW9-ARIN | An optimist believes we live in the best of all PGP Key: 0xC0EB9675674627FF | possible worlds. A pessimist is sure of it! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On 02/24/2020 01:06 PM, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:49:25 -0500, Tim Evans wrote: On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote: Well, I tried it: # passwd $ Changing password for user root. Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank". Which would have indicated you wanted to change root's password. Yes. I took that as meaning I should. :-( (My .sig, alas!, means what it says.) FYI, when you want to use the value of a variable, such as PATH, you use $PATH, such as in using echo $PATH to find out just what your current PATH is. I used $USERNAME to show that I wanted you to use the username and not just USERNAME in that command. This usage has been customary for decades, and although you don't claim to know much about such things, it never occurred to me that you might not understand it. Consider this a learning experience. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:49:25 -0500, Tim Evans wrote: > On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote: > >> Well, I tried it: >> >> # passwd $ Changing password for user root. > > Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty > variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank". Which > would have indicated you wanted to change root's password. Yes. I took that as meaning I should. :-( (My .sig, alas!, means what it says.) But you nailed it: # passwd xxx Changing password for user xxx. New password: BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based on a dictionary word Retype new password: [at this point I gave it her password anyway.] passwd: all authentication tokens updated successfully. Then I checked: $ su - xxx Password: [xxx@localhost ~]$ HOORAY! Many, many thanks! Now I can spare her a flight of stairs just for a quick email check. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote: Well, I tried it: # passwd $ Changing password for user root. Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank". Which would have indicated you wanted to change root's password. -- Tim Evans |5 Chestnut Court 443-394-3864|Owings Mills, MD 21117 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:40:01 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 02/24/2020 11:23 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root >> to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? > > Try this: first, use su - to become root. Then, as root: > > passwd $USERNAME > > This will (or at least should) allow you to change the user's password > without needing to know the old one. Well, I tried it: # passwd $ Changing password for user root. New password: IOW, when I actually gave it one, it changed *root's* password, and I had to change that back. That's worse. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Password trouble
On 02/24/2020 11:23 AM, Beartooth wrote: useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? Try this: first, use su - to become root. Then, as root: passwd $USERNAME This will (or at least should) allow you to change the user's password without needing to know the old one. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Password trouble
I had set my wife an account on one of my computers recently, a Thinkpad E-series using MATE User Manager under F31. I suppose I may have failed to set her password, though I doubt that intensely. This is a machine that never leaves my desk, despite being a laptop. I typed in her usual password for logging in; I got this: su - tslg You are required to change your password immediately (administrator enforced) New password: BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based on a dictionary word su: Authentication token manipulation error Just for the record, it consists of first letters of a line of poetry, and does not resemble any word in any of the several languages I know. (The app is probably just complaining of the length.) Nor had I enforced any such requirement, nor would I. useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is Suppose I try the obvious: delete and re-add her. (She has not yet touched this particular machine, so the account is still empty.) Will she or I then be able to set the password she chooses? I don't mind an OS warning me of hazards I can judge better than it can; but I do take it amiss to be forbidden something trivial. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: User password trouble - SOLVED -
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 12:32 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > The keyboard has failed! > > Typing the password characters after the root prompt shows one key > does nothing, not even a blank space! :-D I got bitten by the same problem. Too bad I didn't see this thread earlier. I had changed my password, and suddenly I was unable to log in from any system except the one I used while changing. Neither the old or the new password worked on any other system. I finally thought of checking the keyboard on the system I used when changing the password, and it turned out one character I almost never used (I mostly type email and shell programs on that system) didn't work... Turning it upside-down and shaking it was enough to clear up the problem. The password with a missing character was actually even more difficult to crack, and quite easy to remember after that episode, so it was kept for a long time :-) birger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble - SOLVED -
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 12:32 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Mystery solved! > > The keyboard has failed! > > Typing the password characters after the root prompt shows one key > does nothing, not even a blank space! Yes, I've been caught by that, before. It's even more of a problem with some GUI systems. On a CLI-only system, you're quite likely to notice a key going bad. But if you rarely type, and mostly point and click, you mightn't get any noticeable hint about a key starting to fail. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble -
On 17/07/10 13:21, JD wrote: > Same way you restored the root password. > In single user mode, type > passwd bobg > > and it will prompt you to enter the new password. > > I've added that to my notes too, wont have to ask next time! This has been a busy day, first the keyboard, and then a t-storm dropped ac power and I found I needed batteries in the UPS, two in series for 24 volts. Did that too. Now to get back to my new router. Thanks. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble -
On 07/17/2010 09:23 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I used my F-12 computer to configure a new wireless router > yesterday. I disconnected the computer from the LAN and connected > directly to an Ethernet port on the router so there was no external > access to the system, only me and the router! > > Upon boot this morning it would not recognize my password? Not as > user "bobg" or root! > > I can't imagine what caused this problem. The only thing I messed > with was the Netgear router [WNDR3300-100NAR] via it's web > URL/interface from Firefox? Presently the new router is turned off > and disconnected, I am using the "old" one, not that I would expect > that to be a factor but this is strange stuff ... > > I fixed the root password in "single user" mode and can now boot it > as root but my notes do not tell me how to restore bobg's password. > I don't want to add a new user and have to reconfigure everything! > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Bob > -- > Same way you restored the root password. In single user mode, type passwd bobg and it will prompt you to enter the new password. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble -
On 17/07/10 12:30, Darton Williams wrote: > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > --snip-- > >> I fixed the root password in "single user" mode and can now boot it >> as root but my notes do not tell me how to restore bobg's password. >> I don't want to add a new user and have to reconfigure everything! >> >> Suggestions appreciated. >> >> Bob >> -- >> >> > When you get logged in as root, you can use either system-config-users > (System -> Administration -> Users and Groups) or the passwd command > from a terminal to change bobg's password, e.g. "passwd bobg". > > Best, > > Darton > Thank you. I will add that to my notes. But for now a keyboard change should restore bobg! Thanks again. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble - SOLVED -
On 17/07/10 12:23, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >I used my F-12 computer to configure a new wireless router >yesterday. I disconnected the computer from the LAN and > connecteddirectly to an Ethernet port on the router so there > was no external >access to the system, only me and the router! > >Upon boot this morning it would not recognize my password? Not as >user "bobg" or root! > >I can't imagine what caused this problem. The only thing I messed >with was the Netgear router [WNDR3300-100NAR] via it's web >URL/interface from Firefox? Presently the new router is turned off >and disconnected, I am using the "old" one, not that I would > expect >that to be a factor but this is strange stuff ... > >I fixed the root password in "single user" mode and can now > boot it >as root but my notes do not tell me how to restore bobg's > password. >I don't want to add a new user and have to reconfigure everything! > >Suggestions appreciated. > >Bob >-- > Mystery solved! The keyboard has failed! Typing the password characters after the root prompt shows one key does nothing, not even a blank space! I will change the keyboard. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: User password trouble -
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: --snip-- > I fixed the root password in "single user" mode and can now boot it > as root but my notes do not tell me how to restore bobg's password. > I don't want to add a new user and have to reconfigure everything! > > Suggestions appreciated. > > Bob > -- > When you get logged in as root, you can use either system-config-users (System -> Administration -> Users and Groups) or the passwd command from a terminal to change bobg's password, e.g. "passwd bobg". Best, Darton -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
User password trouble -
I used my F-12 computer to configure a new wireless router yesterday. I disconnected the computer from the LAN and connected directly to an Ethernet port on the router so there was no external access to the system, only me and the router! Upon boot this morning it would not recognize my password? Not as user "bobg" or root! I can't imagine what caused this problem. The only thing I messed with was the Netgear router [WNDR3300-100NAR] via it's web URL/interface from Firefox? Presently the new router is turned off and disconnected, I am using the "old" one, not that I would expect that to be a factor but this is strange stuff ... I fixed the root password in "single user" mode and can now boot it as root but my notes do not tell me how to restore bobg's password. I don't want to add a new user and have to reconfigure everything! Suggestions appreciated. Bob -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
