Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Apr 26, 2023, at 18:00, Tom Horsley  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:49:46 -0600
> Joe Zeff wrote:
> 
>> And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first 
>> place?  Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one?
> 
> On systems I use like that, I kind of like the GUI installed so I
> can run GUI tools via ssh X forwarding or even run the full GUI in a
> VNC session if I need to do something complicated and want a familiar
> environment to work in, but 99% of the time I don't need it.

There’s no reason why you need to have GDM running (graphical.target) if you’re 
only going to interact with it remotely over SSH. I agree with the other post, 
change the default target to multi-user.target. 

To run a VNC session you probably don’t want the full GNOME experience anyway. 
I tend to use more lightweight Window Managers if I have to use one in VNC. 

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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:49:46 -0600
Joe Zeff wrote:

> And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first 
> place?  Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one?

On systems I use like that, I kind of like the GUI installed so I
can run GUI tools via ssh X forwarding or even run the full GUI in a
VNC session if I need to do something complicated and want a familiar
environment to work in, but 99% of the time I don't need it.
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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/26/2023 03:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If I'm just using it as a firewall, I'd also do:

systemctl set-default multi-user.target

To run without an active GUI system.


And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first 
place?  Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one?

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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:32:25 -0400
Tim Evans wrote:

> And, for those like me using F38 for a firewall or who otherwise need 
> their systems to not suspend EVER, down a ways in this document:
> 
> # systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target 
> hybrid-sleep.target

If I'm just using it as a firewall, I'd also do:

systemctl set-default multi-user.target

To run without an active GUI system.
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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans

On 4/26/23 17:13, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 3:21 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:


Tim Evans wrote:

This was an in-place dnf upgrade.  The existing setting in Gnome shouldn't
have been changed, right?


The default did change which affects the gdm user.  Unless
you're logged into a Gnome session on this firewall, it
would pick up the new default.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gnome-suspends-after-15-minutes-of-user-inactivity-even-on-ac-power/79801


In particular, this change for Lenovo:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/360 .


And, for those like me using F38 for a firewall or who otherwise need 
their systems to not suspend EVER, down a ways in this document:


# systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target 
hybrid-sleep.target

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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 3:21 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:
>
> Tim Evans wrote:
> > This was an in-place dnf upgrade.  The existing setting in Gnome shouldn't
> > have been changed, right?
>
> The default did change which affects the gdm user.  Unless
> you're logged into a Gnome session on this firewall, it
> would pick up the new default.
>
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gnome-suspends-after-15-minutes-of-user-inactivity-even-on-ac-power/79801

In particular, this change for Lenovo:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/360 .

Jeff
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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tim Evans wrote:
> This was an in-place dnf upgrade.  The existing setting in Gnome shouldn't
> have been changed, right?

The default did change which affects the gdm user.  Unless
you're logged into a Gnome session on this firewall, it
would pick up the new default.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/gnome-suspends-after-15-minutes-of-user-inactivity-even-on-ac-power/79801

-- 
Todd


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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans

On 4/26/23 14:12, Barry wrote:




On 26 Apr 2023, at 19:04, Tim Evans  wrote:

Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or 
issues...

EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after finishing the 
upgrade.  Checked power settings and found "Automatic Suspend" ON and set to 15 
minutes' idle time.


Do you have gnome installed on the firewall?
I think gnome defaults to suspend after 15mins.

Or did you see this setting with a CLI tools?
I am going to be upgrading my fedora firewall this weekend and will look out 
for this.



This was an in-place dnf upgrade.  The existing setting in Gnome 
shouldn't have been changed, right?

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Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Barry


> On 26 Apr 2023, at 19:04, Tim Evans  wrote:
> 
> Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or 
> issues...
> 
> EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after 
> finishing the upgrade.  Checked power settings and found "Automatic Suspend" 
> ON and set to 15 minutes' idle time.

Do you have gnome installed on the firewall?
I think gnome defaults to suspend after 15mins.

Or did you see this setting with a CLI tools?
I am going to be upgrading my fedora firewall this weekend and will look out 
for this.

Barry



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Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tim Evans
Upgraded my firewall machine F37->F38 today, with no apparent errors or 
issues...


EXCEPT that I found it on power suspend twice in the first hour after 
finishing the upgrade.  Checked power settings and found "Automatic 
Suspend" ON and set to 15 minutes' idle time.

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