Re: audacity

[Matti Pulkkinen]

François Patte kirjoitti 3.1.2021 klo 19.03:

Bonjour,

Since the last upgrade to f33 I can't record anything using audacity:
whatever the recording device I choose, the message is the same:
error opening recording device error code: -9997 invalid sample rate

Once upon a time it used to work without any problem.



Are you using the flatpak version of Audacity by any chance? It is
probably still broken: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1853421


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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Jonathan Billings]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 08:03:11PM +0300, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> stan via users kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 16.28:
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
> 
> Sorry, but I'm a little confused now. I'm not sure what component exactly
> I'm supposed to file the bug against. Do I file it against Gnome Software
> specifically, or against something else? Is there a way to file a bug
> specifically against a flatpak?
> 
> One other question: Gnome Software says the Audacity package I installed was
> a flatpak, but when I go to registry.fedoraproject.org where this flatpak is
> supposedly coming from, I see that Audacity is supposed to be pulled down
> with either podman or docker. What's going on here?

As best I can understand, the default Flatpak remote that is installed
is called fedora, which is defined as:

[remote "fedora"]
url=oci+https://registry.fedoraproject.org
xa.title=Fedora
xa.title-is-set=true

So, the flatpak is being run from the Fedora docker/podman registry.

I poked around in Koji, and it appears that the container is being
built using the package build process with a special
f32-flatpak-candidate build target.  I didn't get too much more into
it, but I think its safe to say, you should report flatpak issues on
the audacity component.  Hopefully the person in charge of it is even
aware that it's being built as a flatpak.

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Matti Pulkkinen]

George N. White III kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 22.04:

https://discourse.flathub.org/ is a forum where people report problems and
often get a response of the form "we know about the problem and are
working on it".


That site seems specific to Flathub, whereas the flatpak I installed 
came from Fedora itself, so I don't think the folks over there would be 
able to help in this instance. Thanks for the note anyway; I do use 
other flatpaks from Flathub, so the forum might come in handy later.



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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[George N. White III]

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:

> stan via users kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 16.28:
> > I think other replies have pinpointed your problem.  I don't use Gnome
> > (LXDE) or alternative sources of packages (plain RPMs, always dnf from a
> > virtual console), so forget to think about that as a source of
> > problems. I use the version of audacity that comes from RPMFusion, or
> > compile it from the project source repository. Either way, I get a
> > version that works as I described.
> >
> > I'm surprised that Gnome would be providing a version with such
> > shortcomings.  You would do everyone a favor if you opened a bugzilla
> > against Gnome describing your problem so they can fix the version they
> > are providing.  I find no existing bug.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
>
> Sorry, but I'm a little confused now. I'm not sure what component
> exactly I'm supposed to file the bug against. Do I file it against Gnome
> Software specifically, or against something else? Is there a way to file
> a bug specifically against a flatpak?
>
> One other question: Gnome Software says the Audacity package I installed
> was a flatpak, but when I go to registry.fedoraproject.org where this
> flatpak is supposedly coming from, I see that Audacity is supposed to be
> pulled down with either podman or docker. What's going on here?
>

https://discourse.flathub.org/ is a forum where people report problems and
often get a response of the form "we know about the problem and are
working on it".

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[stan via users]

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 20:03:11 +0300
Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:

> Sorry, but I'm a little confused now. I'm not sure what component 
> exactly I'm supposed to file the bug against. Do I file it against
> Gnome Software specifically, or against something else? Is there a
> way to file a bug specifically against a flatpak?

Yeah, it's part of the new Fedora.  :-)  There used to be just one
source for specific software, so when a bug was filed, that was it.
Now, not so much.  I have never dealt with a problem with a flatpak, so
I'm not sure how to do that.  But, regardless of where the software
comes from, it is Gnome that is providing it, so they are the contact
in Fedora that is responsible for its quality.  Filing a bug against
the Fedora rpm of audacity is filing it with the maintainer of the rpm
package in Fedora.  But that isn't where your audacity came from, so I
think you should file it with Gnome Software so they become aware of
this issue with audacity, but also in general for other software they
provide; who is responsible for the quality of that software?

> One other question: Gnome Software says the Audacity package I
> installed was a flatpak, but when I go to registry.fedoraproject.org
> where this flatpak is supposedly coming from, I see that Audacity is
> supposed to be pulled down with either podman or docker. What's going
> on here?

I can't help you with this, as I probably have less understanding than
you do.  But, since Gnome is responsible, they *should* be able to
answer your question. 
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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Matti Pulkkinen]

stan via users kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 16.28:

I think other replies have pinpointed your problem.  I don't use Gnome
(LXDE) or alternative sources of packages (plain RPMs, always dnf from a
virtual console), so forget to think about that as a source of
problems. I use the version of audacity that comes from RPMFusion, or
compile it from the project source repository. Either way, I get a
version that works as I described.

I'm surprised that Gnome would be providing a version with such
shortcomings.  You would do everyone a favor if you opened a bugzilla
against Gnome describing your problem so they can fix the version they
are providing.  I find no existing bug.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/


Sorry, but I'm a little confused now. I'm not sure what component 
exactly I'm supposed to file the bug against. Do I file it against Gnome 
Software specifically, or against something else? Is there a way to file 
a bug specifically against a flatpak?


One other question: Gnome Software says the Audacity package I installed 
was a flatpak, but when I go to registry.fedoraproject.org where this 
flatpak is supposedly coming from, I see that Audacity is supposed to be 
pulled down with either podman or docker. What's going on here?


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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Matti Pulkkinen]

Ed Greshko kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 1.45:

GNOME Software installed a Flatpak which does not work perfectly, whereas DNF 
installs a RPM along with dependencies like port-audio.

Suggest you give that a try.



Thank you! After removing the flatpak and installing Audacity with DNF, 
I did indeed find a bunch of "pulse" recording devices available to 
choose from, and now recording works just fine.


The in-application monitoring doesn't seem to work very well, but as far 
as I can tell that's just a problem with Audacity in general.


Thanks again!

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[stan via users]

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 01:12:30 +0300
Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:

> Thanks very much for your help so far.

You're welcome.

> > In audacity, you should just have to select pulse as the source, and
> > the recording function would work.  
> 
> This is progress, of a sort: there is no pulse anywhere in Audacity
> to be selected. I've never once messed with the audio configuration
> on this install, so I'm not sure why pulse is missing, or rather why
> Audacity can't see it.

I think other replies have pinpointed your problem.  I don't use Gnome
(LXDE) or alternative sources of packages (plain RPMs, always dnf from a
virtual console), so forget to think about that as a source of
problems. I use the version of audacity that comes from RPMFusion, or
compile it from the project source repository. Either way, I get a
version that works as I described.

I'm surprised that Gnome would be providing a version with such
shortcomings.  You would do everyone a favor if you opened a bugzilla
against Gnome describing your problem so they can fix the version they
are providing.  I find no existing bug.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Fred Smith]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 09:47:16PM -0400, Kevin Becker wrote:
> I have the same issue on my laptop.  I removed the Gnome Software
> version, which didn't necessarily appear to be a flatpak as it didn't
> say it was from flathub.org.  Nevertheless, the version I get from a
> terminal DNF install seems to have the same issue for me.  Everything
> else in the system that I've tested with seems to work just fine with
> the built-in microphone.

Just one more data point: I have had terrible difficulties figuring
out on my own how to configure Audacity to record from certain devices,
given that there are too many audio control programs on the system 
(pulse, alsa, the Mate sound tool) and too many devices from which 
one may wish to get input, and Audacity may not show the device
by a name that you think you know.

For my purposes, I managed to solve it by reading some of the tutorials
on the Audacity Wiki about how to I record from this device, or from
that one. 

If you  haven't gone there yet, I'd urge you to try it. And if that
doesn't help, ask some questions on the Audacity forums. I got lots
of help from those places.

Fred

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Kevin Becker]

Sorry, I was just chiming in to present the data point that it might
not just be an isolated issue.  I don't particularly need Audacity on
my laptop and it works fine on my desktop so I've mostly resigned
myself to the idea that it doesn't work, but I do try suggestions from
time to time when I come across other poeple with the same issue.

On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 10:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-06-30 09:47, Kevin Becker wrote:
> > I have the same issue on my laptop.  I removed the Gnome Software
> > version, which didn't necessarily appear to be a flatpak as it
> > didn't
> > say it was from flathub.org.  Nevertheless, the version I get from
> > a
> > terminal DNF install seems to have the same issue for
> > me.  Everything
> > else in the system that I've tested with seems to work just fine
> > with
> > the built-in microphone.
> 
> Well, if you're having issues and wish to seek further assistance you
> really should
> start a new thread which is separate from this one.  It never works
> out well that
> problems get intermingled.  
> 
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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-06-30 09:47, Kevin Becker wrote:
> I have the same issue on my laptop.  I removed the Gnome Software
> version, which didn't necessarily appear to be a flatpak as it didn't
> say it was from flathub.org.  Nevertheless, the version I get from a
> terminal DNF install seems to have the same issue for me.  Everything
> else in the system that I've tested with seems to work just fine with
> the built-in microphone.

Well, if you're having issues and wish to seek further assistance you really 
should
start a new thread which is separate from this one.  It never works out well 
that
problems get intermingled.  

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Kevin Becker]

I have the same issue on my laptop.  I removed the Gnome Software
version, which didn't necessarily appear to be a flatpak as it didn't
say it was from flathub.org.  Nevertheless, the version I get from a
terminal DNF install seems to have the same issue for me.  Everything
else in the system that I've tested with seems to work just fine with
the built-in microphone.

On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 06:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-06-30 06:13, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> > Sreyan Chakravarty kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 0.44:
> > > How did you install Audacity ? From Gnome Software or DNF ?
> > 
> > Gnome Software. The source is Fedora, "registry.fedoraproject.org".
> > 
> 
> Well, Sreyan had issues with Audacity supplied by Gnome Software.
> See the thread "Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32".
> 
> From the "SOLVED" message in the thread
> 
> All I had to do was uninstall Audacity from GNOME Software and then
> install it from DNF via:
> 
> sudo dnf install -y audacity
> 
> GNOME Software installed a Flatpak which does not work perfectly,
> whereas DNF installs a RPM along with dependencies like port-audio.
> 
> 
> Suggest you give that a try.
> 
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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-06-30 06:13, Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
> Sreyan Chakravarty kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 0.44:
>> How did you install Audacity ? From Gnome Software or DNF ?
>
> Gnome Software. The source is Fedora, "registry.fedoraproject.org".
>

Well, Sreyan had issues with Audacity supplied by Gnome Software.
See the thread "Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32".

From the "SOLVED" message in the thread

All I had to do was uninstall Audacity from GNOME Software and then install it 
from DNF via:

sudo dnf install -y audacity

GNOME Software installed a Flatpak which does not work perfectly, whereas DNF 
installs a RPM along with dependencies like port-audio.


Suggest you give that a try.

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Matti Pulkkinen]

Sreyan Chakravarty kirjoitti 30.6.2020 klo 0.44:

How did you install Audacity ? From Gnome Software or DNF ?


Gnome Software. The source is Fedora, "registry.fedoraproject.org".

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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Matti Pulkkinen]

Thanks very much for your help so far.

stan via users kirjoitti 29.6.2020 klo 22.13:

I understand that what you are doing is trying to record from a mic, and
not what is being played by the soundcard.


It's a digital piano rather than a mic, but other than that, yeah.


In audacity, you should just have to select pulse as the source, and
the recording function would work.


This is progress, of a sort: there is no pulse anywhere in Audacity to 
be selected. I've never once messed with the audio configuration on this 
install, so I'm not sure why pulse is missing, or rather why Audacity 
can't see it.



So, the first question is, does alsa recognize the recording device you
want to use?
arecord -lv
Is it there?



 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 2: ALC892 Alt Analog [ALC892 Alt Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

"Alt Analog" (device 2) is the one Audacity shows me, rather than just 
plain old "Analog" (device 0). Either way, this is my sound card so I'm 
guessing the answer to your question here is "yes."



The next question is, what is the default recording device
in pulse?


The default according to pavucontrol is "Sisäinen äänentoisto Analoginen 
stereo" which is what pavucontrol calls my sound card, and I've selected 
the line in option. In fact I can see the little audio meter jumping up 
and down if I press the keys on my piano.



Alternatively, you can turn off the sound device with your recording
device from pulse so it becomes controlled only by alsa, tell audacity
to use alsa, and select the actual device that you want to record with.


I tried this with pasuspender, and a bunch more recording devices showed 
up. The ones present before still give the same error, but selecting one 
of the other ones, which all look something like "sysdefault: Line: 0" 
or "default: Line: 0" and the like, will actually let me record the line 
in. Trouble is, of course, that now sound doesn't work in any other 
application. I also can't monitor the recording device.


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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[Sreyan Chakravarty]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:39 PM Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to use Audacity to record the line in on my PC, but I always
> get the following error:
>
> Error opening recording device.
> Error code: -9997 Invalid sample rate
>
> Sounds like an easy-to-fix problem, but the same thing happens
> regardless of what sample rate I choose. Checking with "pacmd
> list-sinks" I found that the sample rate for my card is 44100 Hz, so
> that's what I'm trying to use now that I've checked all possible sample
> rate options Audacity offers. Also, Audacity offers a bunch of different
> recording devices with names along the lines of "HDA Intel PCH: ALC892
> Alt Analog (hw:0,2): Front Mic:0" but the same error happens with all of
> them too.
>
> Based on what I could find online, it seems like people have had this
> issue mostly on Windows, and then it was to do with either not having
> updated drivers or having set the device's sample rate incorrectly. Has
> anyone here run into something like this before on Fedora? Any ideas
> where to start trying to fix this?
>
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Re: Audacity: "Error opening recording device"

[stan via users]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:08:59 +0300
Matti Pulkkinen  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to use Audacity to record the line in on my PC, but I
> always get the following error:
> 
> Error opening recording device.
> Error code: -9997 Invalid sample rate
> 
> Sounds like an easy-to-fix problem, but the same thing happens 
> regardless of what sample rate I choose. Checking with "pacmd 
> list-sinks" I found that the sample rate for my card is 44100 Hz, so 
> that's what I'm trying to use now that I've checked all possible
> sample rate options Audacity offers. Also, Audacity offers a bunch of
> different recording devices with names along the lines of "HDA Intel
> PCH: ALC892 Alt Analog (hw:0,2): Front Mic:0" but the same error
> happens with all of them too.
> 
> Based on what I could find online, it seems like people have had this 
> issue mostly on Windows, and then it was to do with either not having 
> updated drivers or having set the device's sample rate incorrectly.
> Has anyone here run into something like this before on Fedora? Any
> ideas where to start trying to fix this?
> 

Without detailed data about your system and how it is configured, I
can't be sure, and maybe not even if I had that data.  But, I
understand that what you are doing is trying to record from a mic, and
not what is being played by the soundcard.

Sound systems in linux consist of two components, alsa, which takes care
of low level details on sound devices, and pulse, which sits on top of
alsa and handles routing of sound device output to consumers, so called
sources and sinks.  Both have to be set up correctly in order for sound
to work properly.  But, if they are set up correctly, you don't need to
do anything fancy to use sound.  In audacity, you should just have to
select pulse as the source, and the recording function would work.

So, the first question is, does alsa recognize the recording device you
want to use?  
arecord -lv
Is it there?  The next question is, what is the default recording device
in pulse? If it isn't the device you are trying to record from, you
won't get any input out of pulse.  I find this easier to see from
pavucontrol, in the recording device tab, and it is easier to set the
default there also.  But it can be done from pactl, I'm just not
familiar with the invocation.

Once this is set properly, you will be able to get sound in audacity
from your input device using pulse as the setting.  

Alternatively, you can turn off the sound device with your recording
device from pulse so it becomes controlled only by alsa, tell audacity
to use alsa, and select the actual device that you want to record with.
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Re: Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

[stan via users]

On Sun, 24 May 2020 19:55:15 +0530
Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Audacity is unable to play any sort of audio in Fedora 32 on my HP 
> Notebook.
> 
> I installed Audacity from Gnome Software so pretty sure it is a
> FlatPak.

Pretty sure it is an RPM unless you have things configured strangely.
It is good to use the rpm from RPMFusion, because then you get the
patented audio and video codecs, so audacity can play audio from videos.

> Whenever I hit the play button I get:
> 
> "Error opening sound device.
> 
> Try changing the audio host, playback device and the project sample
> rate."

Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.

> I did ask the guys over at the Audacity Forums, but they were, lets
> say, less than helpful.
> 
> You can find the full details of my thread here:
> 
> https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?p=395574

Your lack of knowledge created a response gap with the advice they were
giving. 

> The sound devices listed in Audacity are:
> 
>   * HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 0 (hw:0.3)
> 
>   * HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 1 (hw:0.7)
> 
>   * HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 2 (hw:0.8)
> 
>   * HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 3 (hw:0.9)
> 
>   * HDA Intel PCH: HDMI 4 (hw:0.10)
> 
>   * hdmi

None of these will be efficacious with audacity.

> 
> 
> And you can find my "Audio Device Info" from Audacity over here:
> 
> https://pastebin.com/raw/icDNX20x

Why is this list different than the devices listed above as available in
audacity?  Until the analog card is available in audacity, you will not
be able to play audio there.

> So far no other application has given me any issues with sound,
> Firefox, VLC, Rhytmbox all work fine. Its only Audacity that is the
> oddball.
> 
> Since the people at Audacity don't know what is going on, I am asking 
> you guys.

From the thread, I would draw a different conclusion.  But, oh well.

> Let me know if any further diagnostic info is required.

==
Default recording device number: 12
Default playback device number: 12
==
Device ID: 0
Device name: HDA Intel PCH: ALC3227 Analog (hw:0,0)
Host name: ALSA
Recording channels: 2
Playback channels: 2
Low Recording Latency: 0.00580499
Low Playback Latency: 0.00580499
High Recording Latency: 0.0348299
High Playback Latency: 0.0348299
Supported Rates:

This is your problem.  Your default device in pulseaudio is number 12,
which corresponds to an hdmi (digital) output.  You need your default
device in pulseaudio to be number 0, which corresponds to analog output.

Try this.  Open pavucontrol, go to the last tab.  Make sure that the
analog device is listed as available there.  Then, go to the outputs
tab, and select the analog device, and click the little green checkmark
to set it as the default.  If you can't complete these instructions,
return with a description of why.  If you can, audacity should now be
able to produce audio.  Before you conclude it can't, configure audio
in audacity to use the analog device for both playback and recording.

This should not have been necessary.  Device 0 is the usual default for
pulseaudio in the default settings for alsa.  Did you do any audio
configuration?
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Re: Audacity lovers - request for testing

[Łukasz Posadowski]

W dniu 16.11.2015 o 21:50, David Timms pisze:

The next version of Audacity is soon to be released, but I would like
some help from users who can test the packaged release candidate in the
next few days [1], [2]. Both positive and negative feedback in bodhi [3]
and bugs [4] if not already submitted would be great.


Looks pretty great, thanks. I have some music to record tomorrow and it's 
perfect opportunity to test beta software. :)


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Re: Audacity

[jarmo]

Fri, 13 Nov 2015 19:36:10 +0100
Klaus-Peter Schrage  kirjoitti:

> Perhaps this thread might help:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-August/464231.html
> (in short: remove the directory ~/.audacity-data)

Thank you, helped, now works..

Jarmo


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Re: Audacity

[Roger Wells]

On 11/13/2015 09:48 AM, jarmo wrote:
> With new upgrade to F23 Audacity didn't start at all, got tons of
> errors. This morning update, got new Audacity-Freeworld. Something new,
> no errors, but Audacity won't start. Anyone else met this?
> 
> Jarmo
> 

Jarmo,

I also just upgraded from F22 to F23.
My current audacity, audacity-2.1.1-1.fc23.x86_64, seems to be working fine.

HTH,


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Re: Audacity

[Klaus-Peter Schrage]

Am 13.11.2015 um 15:48 schrieb jarmo:

With new upgrade to F23 Audacity didn't start at all, got tons of
errors. This morning update, got new Audacity-Freeworld. Something new,
no errors, but Audacity won't start. Anyone else met this?

Jarmo


Perhaps this thread might help:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2015-August/464231.html
(in short: remove the directory ~/.audacity-data)
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Re: Audacity

[David Timms]

On 14/11/15 01:48, jarmo wrote:
> With new upgrade to F23 Audacity didn't start at all, got tons of
> errors. This morning update, got new Audacity-Freeworld. Something new,
> no errors, but Audacity won't start. Anyone else met this?
As current Audacity packager, I'm keen to find out more about your issue.

What name, version release was first version with all the errors ?
Did you happen to screen shot, or capture text console output ?

Also, the same for the update you received. I expect that
audacity-freeworld should not replace audacity. Is that what happened
with dnf update, or was that a manual process. If you start from a
terminal prompt, what text is output ?

By the way, I also need testers for the future Audacity 2.1.2 (alpha)
which I've built [1] and should be in -testing soon. Unfortunately, no
RPMFusion -freeworld builds for 2.1.2 alpha yet.

Dave.

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=698890
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Re: Audacity

[stan]

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:48:28 +0200
jarmo  wrote:

> With new upgrade to F23 Audacity didn't start at all, got tons of
> errors. This morning update, got new Audacity-Freeworld. Something
> new, no errors, but Audacity won't start. Anyone else met this?

It's probably a lock left over from the failed start.  That is, the new
version of audacity thinks audacity is already running because the
failed version left a lock set when it exited.

Look in your home directory for a dot file, probably something
like .audacity, or a .lock file in an audacity folder.  Remove it, and
audacity should start if there are no errors.
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Re: audacity playback too fast

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 23 October 2015, Frank Elsner sent:
> when recording with audacity and saving as .wav I can play the file
> with play (from sox package) without problems. All perfect.
> 
> But when I klick "play" in audacity the recording (or imported .wav) 
> plays far too fast. I guess 10 times too fast. 

There is, or was (I'm on an old install), a play speed control on the
Audacity main window.  Might you have bumped it?  It could easily be
mistaken for a volume control, seeing as mine is beside a green play
triangle logo.

But, for what it's worth, on a much older installation, I had a similar
problem.  Playback speed was always wrong, which caused pitch change and
shorter playback time.  I never did resolve that.  It wasn't by an
overly noticeable amount, until you realised that music didn't play on
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Re: audacity playback too fast

[Mark LaPierre]

On 10/23/15 14:18, Frank Elsner wrote:
> 
> Hi Community,
> 
> when recording with audacity and saving as .wav I can play the file with play
> (from sox package) without problems. All perfect.
> 
> But when I klick "play" in audacity the recording (or imported .wav) 
> plays far too fast. I guess 10 times too fast.
> 
> Project Rate is 44100, and with the previously installed Fedora 14 (shame on 
> me)
> I never had this problem.
> 
> How to get the playback in correct speed?
> 
> 
> Kind regards, Frank Elsner
> 

Take a look at this:

http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Change_Speed

Hope it helps.


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Re: audacity playback too fast

[Frank Elsner]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:15:52 -0400 Mark LaPierre wrote:

  [ ... ]

> http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Change_Speed
> 
> Hope it helps.

Sorry to say NO.

I should add that I've no problem to play .wav files with play command 
from the sox package. The problem must be with audacity :-(


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Re: audacity playback too fast

[Rick Stevens]

On 10/23/2015 06:44 PM, Frank Elsner wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 16:15:52 -0400 Mark LaPierre wrote:

   [ ... ]


http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Change_Speed

Hope it helps.


Sorry to say NO.

I should add that I've no problem to play .wav files with play command
from the sox package. The problem must be with audacity :-(


I don't use audacity myself. Does it have the ability to select
different backends (phonon, etc.) and if so, have you tried changing
to other backends to see if it's limited to one of them?
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Re: audacity playback too fast

[Frank Elsner]

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:59:59 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:

  [ ... ]
> I don't use audacity myself. Does it have the ability to select
> different backends (phonon, etc.) and if so, have you tried changing
> to other backends to see if it's limited to one of them?

I've only pulseaudio. But this also involved when using play command.
It  must be with audacity. Will investigate there tomorrow (?)


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Re: Audacity Won't Start

[Andrew R Paterson]

On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
 Hello Craig,
 
 Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
 application from the command line?
 
 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:
  Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
  audacity to not want to start.
  
  If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
  with an existing audio file. It just exits.
  
  Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
  trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
  is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
  
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Hi Craig,
I found this problem as well.
I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
But you may not want to do that!
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Re: Audacity Won't Start

[Martin Cigorraga]

Lol, 'with a hammer' - so true xD

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 19:40 Andrew R Paterson andy.pater...@ntlworld.com
wrote:

 On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
  Hello Craig,
 
  Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
  application from the command line?
 
  On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
   audacity to not want to start.
  
   If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
   with an existing audio file. It just exits.
  
   Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
   trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
   is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
  
   Craig Lanning
  
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 I found this problem as well.
 I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
 But you may not want to do that!
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Re: Audacity Won't Start

[Craig Lanning]

Thanks for your answers.
Martin, there was no output.  I would type 'audacity file.wav' and it
would just return to the command prompt.
Andrew, Your suggestion worked fine.  I deleted the '.audacity-data'
directory and it then worked just fine.
Thanks to both of you for your help.
Craig
On Sun, 2015-08-16 at 22:45 +, Martin Cigorraga wrote:
 Lol, 'with a hammer' - so true xD
 
 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 19:40 Andrew R Paterson 
 andy.pater...@ntlworld.com wrote:
  On Sunday 16 August 2015 21:14:38 Martin Cigorraga wrote:
   Hello Craig,
  
   Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
   application from the command line?
  
   On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning 
  craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:
Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
audacity to not want to start.
   
If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to
  start
with an existing audio file. It just exits.
   
Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it
  is
trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring
  out what
is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.
   
Craig Lanning
   
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  Hi Craig,
  I found this problem as well.
  I cured it with a hammer - rm -rf ~/.audacity-data
  But you may not want to do that!
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Re: Audacity Won't Start

[Martin Cigorraga]

Hello Craig,

Could you please copy the output it produces when you launch the
application from the command line?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015, 17:17 Craig Lanning craig.t.lann...@gmail.com wrote:

 Something has happened in the last couple of months that causes
 audacity to not want to start.

 If I type 'audacity audio-file.wav' in an attempt to get it to start
 with an existing audio file. It just exits.

 Is there some way that I can start it that will show me what it is
 trying to do so I can see where it fails?  Any help figuring out what
 is causing problems and how to fix it would be appreciated.

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Re: Audacity users - quick check - can you open .wav OK ?

[Ted Roche]

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:09 AM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 any of the three methods. The IO settings are ALSA, pulse/pulse.

 What IO settings do you have ?

ALSA, default, sysdefault: Stereo Mix:0

Switch to ALSA, pulse, pulse, and I can still open WAV files just
fine, using any of the 3 methods you suggested.

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Re: Audacity users - quick check - can you open .wav OK ?

[David Timms]

On 06/03/15 08:38, Ted Roche wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:07 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
...
 Audacity 2.0.6
 
 and I'm using a licensed set of encoder/decoders from Fluendo (highly
 recommended!)
Mmm, good. I'm getting ready for packaging the next audacity release,
and I'm finding that Audacity hangs indefinitely on trying to open using
any of the three methods. The IO settings are ALSA, pulse/pulse.

What IO settings do you have ?
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Re: Audacity users - quick check - can you open .wav OK ?

[Ted Roche]

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:07 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Do you get the normal waveform drawn ?

Yes, to all three. However, my machine is configured as:

Fedora 20
Linux hostname.goes.here 3.18.7-100.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11
19:01:50 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Audacity 2.0.6

and I'm using a licensed set of encoder/decoders from Fluendo (highly
recommended!)

What is it you are seeing? There are a lot of settings in Audacity
that cause the display to show things other than waveforms.

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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams:
 Hi there.  Still running f16 which I know  reaches EOL in a few days.
 Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had
 some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go
 shortly.

in my world between 16 and 18 is 17 :-)

the install program is not relevant at all
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17



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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Mike Williams]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:


 Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams:
 Hi there.  Still running f16 which I know  reaches EOL in a few days.
 Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had
 some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go
 shortly.

 in my world between 16 and 18 is 17 :-)

 the install program is not relevant at all
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17


I'm going to skip f17 and go straight to f18.  Have never done an
upgrade, always do a fresh install of new version.
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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Reindl Harald]

Am 07.02.2013 21:02, schrieb Mike Williams:
 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:


 Am 07.02.2013 20:51, schrieb Mike Williams:
 Hi there.  Still running f16 which I know  reaches EOL in a few days.
 Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had
 some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go
 shortly.

 in my world between 16 and 18 is 17 :-)

 the install program is not relevant at all
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedora_17

 
 I'm going to skip f17 and go straight to f18.  

your choice

 Have never done an upgrade, always do a fresh install of new version

have never done a fresh install of any linux setup
always do an upgrade in production as well as for workstations over years



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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:51:45 -0500, Mike Williams wrote:

 I had audacity and the audacity manual installed.  When I found that
 the build of audacity I had would not handle mp3 files I attempted to
 remove audacity because install of audacity-freeworld which includes
 mp3 support failed due to a confilict with the existing audacity
 package.
 
 Yum informed me that it was going remove audacity and audacity-manual.

That's because the audacity-manual package wants /usr/bin/audacity.
 
 Removing:
  audacity  i686   2.0.2-2.fc16
  @updates14 M
 Removing for dependencies:
  audacity-manual   i686   2.0.2-2.fc16
  @updates18 M
 
 rpm -q --filesbypkg audacity-manual gave a long list of files in
 /usr/share/audacity
 
 some html files, images, etc.   It does not seem right that the manual
 has to be removed to remove audacity.

That's true, if the manual can be displayed/read without running Audacity.
The dependency on /usr/bin/audacity seems like overhead, but it could be
that the Fedora packagers disagree.

 Seems like a bug to me.  Not sure where to report it.  Is it just in
 the fedora packaging or upstream?

You can remove both packages, then install audacity-freeworld and also
audacity-manual again.

There is no other way to replace Fedora's audacity with RPM Fusion's
audacity-freeworld other than by removing and reinstalling. RPM Fusion
doesn't like to do that automatically (via RPM Obsoletes) as doing that
for add-on repositories is frowned upon.
 
 I just copied audacity-manual/* to audacity-manual-wtf but would like
 to report this so it can be fixed.
 
 Will do some more digging later, just thought I'd ask to see if anyone
 knows where a bug report should be filed.  I looked on
 http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org and did not find anything when
 searching for either dependency or manual.

That would have been wrong. Packaging issues are unrelated to upstream here.
Just for the future:
  http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/audacity - a convenient link
  http://bugzilla.redhat.com - Fedora bug tracker
  http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org - RPM Fusion bug tracker

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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/07/2013 12:04 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

have never done a fresh install of any linux setup
always do an upgrade in production as well as for workstations over years


I've done both, but prefer to do an upgrade.  The only reason I did a 
fresh install of F17 on this box is because there was something funky 
with F16 on it and it'd only boot with an old F14 kernel.  Once I'd 
learned that the F17 LiveCD worked fine, it was clear that what this box 
needed was a fresh install, and it worked fine.  Still, for the most 
part I prefer an upgrade because I don't have to worry about remembering 
what programs I'll need to install later because they're not on the 
install DVD.

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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/07/2013 11:51 AM, Mike Williams wrote:

Seems like a bug to me.  Not sure where to report it.  Is it just in
the fedora packaging or upstream?


I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody 
that you might want to have the manual without the program.

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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:51:45 -0500
Mike Williams wrote:

 Been reluctant to install f18 due to hearing that install program had
 some major problems, although I guess I will have to give it a go
 shortly.

You might want to check out my install technique:

http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/f18-install.html

Seemed infinitely safer to do it that way :-).
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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Mike Williams]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
 On 02/07/2013 11:51 AM, Mike Williams wrote:

 I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody that
 you might want to have the manual without the program.


It isn't the most common case, although it does happen.  For example,
if a program relies on hardware or data that I don't have on my
laptop, but I want to read the manual on the laptop I install the
manual without the program, if possible.

That isn't what happened this time.  I just thought having to remove
the manual and re-install it was a rough edge that should be smoothed
out.
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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/07/2013 12:57 PM, Mike Williams wrote:

That isn't what happened this time.  I just thought having to remove
the manual and re-install it was a rough edge that should be smoothed
out.


No argument from me on that.  And, as far as asking why you'd want the 
manual without the program, that was what I thought you'd be asked after 
reporting this.  (That is, the developers might want to know why you'd 
want it.)

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Re: audacity manual dependency

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:16:18 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:

 I'm just guessing here, but it may be that it never occurred to anybody 
 that you might want to have the manual without the program.

Tell the packagers. During initial Fedora Package Review, such problems
are often noticed and commented on, but some packagers (re)introduce such
a dependency in a subpackage later. Being able to install documentation
separately/independently is a good thing.

If you examine the audacity.spec file, it contains:

  # -manual suits either audacity or audacity-freeworld; both create the path:
  Requires: /usr/bin/audacity

The comment doesn't explain why the manual needs the executable. It reads
as if the packager thought it was added value, if installing the manual
also installs the program. Perhaps that was done only for optimising
directory ownership. To have the main package provide several directory
entries that are shared with the manual package.

Nowadays, the packaging guidelines explicitly permit that multiple
packages include the same directory entries, so it would not be a bad
thing to do that for audacity-manual, too.

http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/audacity  as a convenient link to the
bug tracker.

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Re: Audacity-1.3.12 vs Fedora-13

[David Timms]

On 06/06/10 07:51, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 Has anyone got audacity version 1.3.12 running under Fedora-13.  More
 exactly, the version I'm interested in is compiled on a Fedora-13 system
 from:
  audacity-minsrc-1.3.12-beta.tar.bz2
 It doesn't recognize any audio I/O devices, and so doesn't work.

Hi, that is a good hint to me to that the next version is released and 
to package it for rpmfusion (might be a little while).

I haven't tried the above yet.

Cheers,
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Re: Audacity

[Kwan Lowe]

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Miles mmami...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German


Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??
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Re: Audacity

[Michael Miles]

I'll be damned if I can find it



On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German

  
 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


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Re: Audacity

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:

 I'll be damned if I can find it
 
 
 
 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
  Ok this is really weird.
 
  I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
  I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German
 
   
  Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


$HOME/.audacity-data/audacity.cfg   it's a readable INI-file.
And what language options do you see in Audacity's
Preferences  Interface  Language combobox?
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Re: Audacity

[Michael Miles]

On 04/07/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:


 I'll be damned if I can find it



 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:
  
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com   wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German


  
 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


 $HOME/.audacity-data/audacity.cfg   it's a readable INI-file.
 And what language options do you see in Audacity's
 Preferences  Interface  Language combobox?

Language=af
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Re: Audacity

[Sam Sharpe]

On 7 April 2010 22:26, Michael Miles mmami...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/07/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:


 I'll be damned if I can find it



 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com   wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German



 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


 $HOME/.audacity-data/audacity.cfg   it's a readable INI-file.
 And what language options do you see in Audacity's
 Preferences  Interface  Language combobox?

 Language=af

That might fit - AF is Afrikaans - it certainly looks a bit like
German and Dutch.

Shut down Audacity, remove that configfile (or change the language to
en_US and then start Audacity and see what happens.

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Re: Audacity

[Michael Miles]

On 04/07/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:


 I'll be damned if I can find it



 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:
  
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com   wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German


  
 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


 $HOME/.audacity-data/audacity.cfg   it's a readable INI-file.
 And what language options do you see in Audacity's
 Preferences  Interface  Language combobox?

Language=af

What do I do change the af to en?

or is af a code number
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Re: Audacity

[Sam Sharpe]

On 7 April 2010 22:29, Michael Miles mmami...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/07/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:


 I'll be damned if I can find it



 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com   wrote:


 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German



 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


   it's a readable INI-file.
 And what language options do you see in Audacity's
 Preferences  Interface  Language combobox?

 Language=af

 What do I do change the af to en?

 or is af a code number

errr replace the letters af with the letters en using a text editor?

I suspect you can also use en_US, en_GB, en_CA - depending on what you
consider English.

af not a code number, it's a locale - there are hundreds of them.
It's one I happen to know off the top of my head as I work with a
bunch of South Africans - but there are loads more - have a look at
/usr/share/locale/ - I'm pretty sure you can pick any of those
directory names.

The real question is why does Audacity set that as the locale? -
setting it manually may not work as it might be inherited from
elsewhere in your configuration - tr it and see!

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Re: Audacity

[Michael Miles]

On 04/07/2010 02:28 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 On 7 April 2010 22:26, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com  wrote:

 On 04/07/2010 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  
 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:51:09 -0700, Michael wrote:



 I'll be damned if I can find it



 On 04/07/2010 01:33 PM, Kwan Lowe wrote:

  
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Milesmmami...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



 Ok this is really weird.

 I install Audacity and everything is fine (English)
 I open preferences -do nothing then close prefs and all is in German



  
 Does it save a preferences file anywhere (e.g., .audacity/ or .audacity)??


 $HOME/.audacity-data/audacity.cfg   it's a readable INI-file.
 And what language options do you see in Audacity's
 PreferencesInterfaceLanguage combobox?


 Language=af
  
 That might fit - AF is Afrikaans - it certainly looks a bit like
 German and Dutch.

 Shut down Audacity, remove that configfile (or change the language to
 en_US and then start Audacity and see what happens.

 --
 Sam

That was really weird as I changed the language to en_US then restarted 
to english then as soon as I got back to pref it was set back to africana

I changed it and now it seem to be staying to english

I will play with it some more and see if it stays

Thanks for help


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