Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-07 Thread Rich Boyce
On 06/12/11 23:08, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
 first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
 fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
 their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.

 It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires
 more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What
 graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running

 lspci -v | grep VGA

 Rich
 -

 Rich,

 Thanks for your help !!!

No problem.

 Here are the results :

 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 
 00 [VGA controller])

Ah, I think you probably need to install a driver for your ATI card. I 
would recommend using the 'akmod-catalyst' package from the rpmfusion 
repository. Here's their website:

http://rpmfusion.org/

Basically you follow the instructions to enable it on your system, and 
then type

sudo yum clean all
sudo yum install akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst

Reboot, and you should be using Gnome shell (unless you've created or 
modified any files in /etc/X11).

Rich
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 17:13 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: 
 On 06/12/11 01:00, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  gnome-shell is installed but I only get fail-safe mode.
 
  Any other ideas?
 
 Which version of gnome do you have installed? 3.2? I know 3.0 didn't 
 work with this intel chip.
 
 yum list gnome-shell should tell you this.
 
 Rich
 ---
 Rich,
 
 I have gnome 3.2 for sure :
 
 gnome-shell.x86_643.2.1-2.fc16
 @anaconda-0
 
 Any other ideas??
 
 Greg
 

As I said somewhere else I have an Intel chip which worked with F15 and
Gnome 3 but does not work with F16 and Gnome 3.2/
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-07 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 12/07/2011 09:27 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 As I said somewhere else I have an Intel chip which worked with F15 and
 Gnome 3 but does not work with F16 and Gnome 3.2/

Does your /etc/default/grub file have nomodeset in it?

More details here:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html

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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-07 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 06/12/11 23:08, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
 first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
 fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
 their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.

 It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires
 more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What
 graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running

 lspci -v | grep VGA

 Rich
 -

 Rich,

 Thanks for your help !!!

No problem.

 Here are the results :

 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 
 00 [VGA controller])

Ah, I think you probably need to install a driver for your ATI card. I 
would recommend using the 'akmod-catalyst' package from the rpmfusion 
repository. Here's their website:

http://rpmfusion.org/

Basically you follow the instructions to enable it on your system, and 
then type

sudo yum clean all
sudo yum install akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst

Reboot, and you should be using Gnome shell (unless you've created or 
modified any files in /etc/X11).

Rich
---

Rich,

I'm impressed !!!  How did you know that, and where did I miss the
knowledge boat?  I am surprised the drivers were not packaged with
Fedora.  Is this related to license restrictions like mp3?

Thanks again for your help.  I have installed your suggested drivers
from rpmfusion-nonfree and rpmfusion-free repositories.  Everything is
now working as expected.

Thanks again

Greg

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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-07 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2011-12-07 at 10:04 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: 
 On 12/07/2011 09:27 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  As I said somewhere else I have an Intel chip which worked with F15 and
  Gnome 3 but does not work with F16 and Gnome 3.2/
 
 Does your /etc/default/grub file have nomodeset in it?
 
 More details here:
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html
 
 - Mike
 

Yes. Removing nomodset prevents the machine from booting.
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Rich Boyce
On 06/12/11 01:00, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 gnome-shell is installed but I only get fail-safe mode.

 Any other ideas?

Which version of gnome do you have installed? 3.2? I know 3.0 didn't 
work with this intel chip.

yum list gnome-shell should tell you this.

Rich
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 05/12/11 14:30, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 09:41 +, Rich Boyce wrote:
 On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
 first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
 fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
 their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.

 It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires
 more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What
 graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running

 lspci -v | grep VGA

 Rich

 In my case thew result is:
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if oo (VGA Controller)

 How exactly is this controller lacking and how do you identify a video
 controller that will work with Gnome w3.2?

I've just been trying to find this out, and not succeeded after a few 
minutes of googling. The Gnome folk say that 'accelerated graphics 
hardware' is needed.

However, I have a machine here with an intel 82945G/GZ and it can run 
Gnome-shell fine. So this is a little odd. Can you just run this to make 
sure you have gnome-shell installed:

yum list gnome-shell

If it says 'Available' instead of 'Installed', then you can install it with:

sudo yum install gnome-shell

Reboot, then see if you get gnome-shell when you log in.

Rich


Rich,

Mine has gnome-shell already installed as well.

Greg

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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 06/12/11 01:00, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 gnome-shell is installed but I only get fail-safe mode.

 Any other ideas?

Which version of gnome do you have installed? 3.2? I know 3.0 didn't 
work with this intel chip.

yum list gnome-shell should tell you this.

Rich
---
Rich,

I have gnome 3.2 for sure :

gnome-shell.x86_643.2.1-2.fc16
@anaconda-0

Any other ideas??

Greg

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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-06 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
 first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
 fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
 their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.

It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires 
more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What 
graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running

lspci -v | grep VGA

Rich
-

Rich,

Thanks for your help !!!  This is a new machine that came with Windows
7.  I wasted the Windows 7 OS when I installed F16.

Here are the results :

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 
[VGA controller])

Greg

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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread Rich Boyce
On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
 I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
 first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
 fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
 their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.

It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires 
more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What 
graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running

lspci -v | grep VGA

Rich
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 09:41 +, Rich Boyce wrote:
 On 03/12/11 22:26, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
  I have done a F16 new install on an HP Pavilion g series.  When I did a
  first boot the system advised me it was going to switch to gnome
  fallback mode.  Is this something I am going to need to live with or is
  their a way to retry gnome 3.2.  Sure would appreciate your help.
 
 It's likely to be down to your graphics hardware - Gnome 3.2 requires 
 more hardware acceleration than traditional desktop environments. What 
 graphics hardware does the machine have? You can see this by running
 
 lspci -v | grep VGA
 
 Rich

In my case thew result is:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if oo (VGA Controller)

How exactly is this controller lacking and how do you identify a video
controller that will work with Gnome w3.2?
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Re: F16 and gnome 3.2

2011-12-05 Thread Aaron Konstam

 
  How exactly is this controller lacking and how do you identify a video
  controller that will work with Gnome w3.2?
 
 I've just been trying to find this out, and not succeeded after a few 
 minutes of googling. The Gnome folk say that 'accelerated graphics 
 hardware' is needed.
 
 However, I have a machine here with an intel 82945G/GZ and it can run 
 Gnome-shell fine. So this is a little odd. Can you just run this to make 
 sure you have gnome-shell installed:
 
 yum list gnome-shell
 
 If it says 'Available' instead of 'Installed', then you can install it with:
 
 sudo yum install gnome-shell
 
 Reboot, then see if you get gnome-shell when you log in.
 
 Rich
gnome-shell is installed but I only get fail-safe mode.

Any other ideas?






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