Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:

 I realise that I haven't given you enough to go on here, but these
 kinds of problems are well outside my Linux experience. Tell me what
 diagnostics will we helpful and I'll provide them.



It would be worth reporting this kind of problem to Bugzilla (two reports,
one for each problem). Feel free to post the BZ links here.

poc
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Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Dave Cross
On 2 January 2014 09:51, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:

 I realise that I haven't given you enough to go on here, but these
 kinds of problems are well outside my Linux experience. Tell me what
 diagnostics will we helpful and I'll provide them.

 It would be worth reporting this kind of problem to Bugzilla (two reports,
 one for each problem). Feel free to post the BZ links here.

Good suggestion. Thanks.

Suspend: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047828
Wifi: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047831

It's slightly annoying that Bugzilla insists on you giving a
component. I have no idea what is causing these problems so in both
cases I've guessed at kernel (because they seem pretty fundamental
problems to me).

Cheers,

Dave...

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Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:36:43AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 On 2 January 2014 09:51, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I realise that I haven't given you enough to go on here, but these
  kinds of problems are well outside my Linux experience. Tell me what
  diagnostics will we helpful and I'll provide them.
 
  It would be worth reporting this kind of problem to Bugzilla (two reports,
  one for each problem). Feel free to post the BZ links here.
 
 Good suggestion. Thanks.
 
 Suspend: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047828
 Wifi: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047831
 
 It's slightly annoying that Bugzilla insists on you giving a
 component. I have no idea what is causing these problems so in both
 cases I've guessed at kernel (because they seem pretty fundamental
 problems to me).

Without a component, it might go to the wrong developer.  I think the
idea is to choose your best guess.  If there is a mistake, the dev can
change it to the appropriate component later on.  In this case kernel
sounds about right to me.

Cheers,

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Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Dave Cross
On 2 January 2014 10:44, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:36:43AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
 On 2 January 2014 09:51, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I realise that I haven't given you enough to go on here, but these
  kinds of problems are well outside my Linux experience. Tell me what
  diagnostics will we helpful and I'll provide them.
 
  It would be worth reporting this kind of problem to Bugzilla (two reports,
  one for each problem). Feel free to post the BZ links here.

 Good suggestion. Thanks.

 Suspend: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047828
 Wifi: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047831

 It's slightly annoying that Bugzilla insists on you giving a
 component. I have no idea what is causing these problems so in both
 cases I've guessed at kernel (because they seem pretty fundamental
 problems to me).

 Without a component, it might go to the wrong developer.  I think the
 idea is to choose your best guess.  If there is a mistake, the dev can
 change it to the appropriate component later on.  In this case kernel
 sounds about right to me.

That's a fair point, but I worry that an experienced bug reporter
(like me) would be more likely to assign it to the wrong component
than an experienced bug triager who volunteered to assign the
unassigned bugs.

But then I'm probably just inventing work for experienced Fedora
contributors who have far better ways to spend their time :-)

Dave...

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Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 02 of January 2014 09:26:32 Dave Cross wrote:
 A couple of weeks ago, I posted a really happy email about how well
 the upgrade from F19 to F20 had gone on my laptop. Now, I'm not so
 happy. There are two problems that are close to being deal-breakers
 for me.
 
 1/ The laptop doesn't wake from suspension
 
 I close my laptop and it goes to sleep. When I open it, I expect it to
 wake up again. This has worked well on every laptop I've owned on
 every version of Fedora, until now. Now when I open the laptop, I'm
 just presented with a small Fedora logo in the middle of the screen.
 And all I can do is restart the laptop.

you have nvidia optimus on board, looke similar to my problem with asus.
dead fedora logo is a side effect of crashed video driver:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047169

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Re: Fedora 20 Problems on Dell XPS 41z

2014-01-02 Thread Dale Dellutri
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple of weeks ago, I posted a really happy email about how well
 the upgrade from F19 to F20 had gone on my laptop. Now, I'm not so
 happy. There are two problems that are close to being deal-breakers
 for me.

...

 2/ Wifi is really flaky


One thing to try: Turn off all IPV6.  I had a problem with WiFi on my
laptop until I turned off IPV6.  NetworkManager kept trying to establish
an IPV6 connection but couldn't.  Check your logs to see if NM is
looping trying for IPV6.

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