Re: [Fedora] Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-30 Thread Michal Domonkos 
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Walter Cazzola  wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016, Michal Domonkos wrote:
>
>> It looks like something that is being updated is pulling in the yum
>> package as a dependency.  As Tom mentioned, you can find out by trying
>> to remove yum, or even better, by running "dnf repoquery --installed
>> --whatrequires yum".
>
>
> at the moment yum is not installed on my machine and the result of
>
>dnf repoquery --installed --whatrequires yum
>
> is completely empty.
>
> This means that one of the packages that need to be updated has become
> dependent on yum, that sounds strange to me since yum is a sort of
> deprecated in fedora.
>
> In particular the new dependency to yum is in one of this packages:
>
> breeze-cursor-theme
> breeze-icon-theme
> kde-style-breeze
> libkworkspace5
> plasma-breeze
> plasma-breeze-common
> plasma-workspace
> plasma-workspace-common
> plasma-workspace-drkonqi
> plasma-workspace-geolocation
> plasma-workspace-geolocation-libs
> plasma-workspace-libs
> sddm-breeze

OK, I just checked with "dnf repoquery --whatrequires yum-utils" on my
F23 and among the listed packages there really is one of those you
mentioned:

plasma-workspace-drkonqi-0:5.6.5-1.fc23.x86_64

Since yum-utils requires yum and yum requires yum-metadata-parser, you
get all these pulled in for the update transaction.

> To me seems that plasma is getting dependent on yum, probably could be
> the case to fill a bug report.

Yup, feel free to file a bug against that plasma package.
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Re: [Fedora] Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-30 Thread Walter Cazzola 

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016, Michal Domonkos wrote:


It looks like something that is being updated is pulling in the yum
package as a dependency.  As Tom mentioned, you can find out by trying
to remove yum, or even better, by running "dnf repoquery --installed
--whatrequires yum".


at the moment yum is not installed on my machine and the result of

   dnf repoquery --installed --whatrequires yum

is completely empty.

This means that one of the packages that need to be updated has become
dependent on yum, that sounds strange to me since yum is a sort of
deprecated in fedora.

In particular the new dependency to yum is in one of this packages:

breeze-cursor-theme
breeze-icon-theme
kde-style-breeze
libkworkspace5
plasma-breeze
plasma-breeze-common
plasma-workspace
plasma-workspace-common
plasma-workspace-drkonqi
plasma-workspace-geolocation
plasma-workspace-geolocation-libs
plasma-workspace-libs
sddm-breeze

To me seems that plasma is getting dependent on yum, probably could be
the case to fill a bug report.

Walter
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Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-29 Thread Michal Domonkos 
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Michal Domonkos  wrote:
> It looks like something that is being updated is pulling in the yum
> package as a dependency.  As Tom mentioned, you can find out by trying
> to remove yum, or even better, by running "dnf repoquery --installed
> --whatrequires yum".

Actually, thinking about this, you may want to omit the --installed
option as the updated package is obviously not installed yet.
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Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-29 Thread Michal Domonkos 
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Walter Cazzola  wrote:
>
> Dear Experts,
> I've a Fedora 23 installed on my laptop and I keep it updated (even if
> I'm not going through the upgrade process yet).
>
> Yesteday when I checked which packages need to be updated, dnf proposed
> me to install this packages:
>
>Installing:
>  yum   noarch 3.4.3-507.fc23   fedora  1.2 M
>  yum-metadata-parser   x86_64 1.1.4-15.fc23fedora   39 k
>  yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-508.fc23  updates 117 k
>
> This sounds weird, as far as I know, dnf completely replaced yum so why
> I need to install it? Is this generating some conflicts with dnf or
> breaking something on my fedora?

It looks like something that is being updated is pulling in the yum
package as a dependency.  As Tom mentioned, you can find out by trying
to remove yum, or even better, by running "dnf repoquery --installed
--whatrequires yum".
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Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-28 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:29:06 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> You can just
> remove them at your leisure.

Or if something actually depend on them, you'll find out if
you do a "dnf erase yum" and it wants to remove lots of
other stuff as well.
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Re: dnf update tries to install yum

2016-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 00:13 +0200, Walter Cazzola wrote:
> Dear Experts,
> I've a Fedora 23 installed on my laptop and I keep it updated (even
> if
> I'm not going through the upgrade process yet).
> 
> Yesteday when I checked which packages need to be updated, dnf
> proposed
> me to install this packages:
> 
> Installing:
>   yum   noarch 3.4.3-507.fc23   fedora  1.2 M
>   yum-metadata-parser   x86_64 1.1.4-15.fc23fedora   39 k
>   yum-utils noarch 1.1.31-508.fc23  updates 117 k
> 
> This sounds weird, as far as I know, dnf completely replaced yum so
> why
> I need to install it? Is this generating some conflicts with dnf or
> breaking something on my fedora?

The functionality of dnf replaces the functionality of yum. That
doesn't mean the yum packages you have won't be updated. You can just
remove them at your leisure.

poc
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