Re: is cronie-anacron a package requirement for cronie or not?

2014-01-02 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:25:33 -0500,
  Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:


 predictably, cronie-anacron requires cronie, that part's easy.
however, if i check to see what requires cronie-anacron on my fedora
20 system, i see:

# rpm -q --whatrequires cronie-anacron
no package requires cronie-anacron
#

 normally, i'd interpret that to mean that i can remove that package
independently of anything else. but if i try, i get a list of 35
packages that would be removed due to dependencies, including cronie
itself.

 why is that? what command do i run to see that obvious dependency?
thanks.


The dependency may be on a file or a provides provided by 
cronie-anacron. If you look at the yum output, the first dependency 
added to the remove list is probably a good place to start. You can 
look at what that package requires.

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Re: is cronie-anacron a package requirement for cronie or not?

2014-01-02 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 10:25:33 -0500,
   Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
 
   predictably, cronie-anacron requires cronie, that part's easy.
 however, if i check to see what requires cronie-anacron on my fedora
 20 system, i see:
 
 # rpm -q --whatrequires cronie-anacron
 no package requires cronie-anacron
 #
 
   normally, i'd interpret that to mean that i can remove that package
 independently of anything else. but if i try, i get a list of 35
 packages that would be removed due to dependencies, including cronie
 itself.
 
   why is that? what command do i run to see that obvious dependency?
 thanks.

 The dependency may be on a file or a provides provided by
 cronie-anacron. If you look at the yum output, the first dependency
 added to the remove list is probably a good place to start. You can
 look at what that package requires.

  ah, quite so:

$ yum whatprovides dailyjobs

i really should have thought of that. thanks.

rday

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Re: is cronie-anacron a package requirement for cronie or not?

2014-01-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 10:25:33 -0500 (EST)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:

   normally, i'd interpret that to mean that i can remove that package
 independently of anything else.

I gave up trying to make anacron go away in any sensible fashion.
I just use a big hammer to clobber all the files involved
and put the real crontab back so things actually run when
I want them to, not at some random inconvenient time anacron
picks using the artificial intelligence algorithm it apparently
has to maximize inconvenience :-).
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Re: is cronie-anacron a package requirement for cronie or not?

2014-01-02 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/02/2014 08:13 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

not at some random inconvenient time anacron
picks using the artificial intelligence algorithm it apparently
has to maximize inconvenience :-).


It sounds like anacron is using the same form of AI that a first-person 
shooter I like (Joint Operations) uses: heavy on the A, light on the I.

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