Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 17:58 +, Beartooth wrote: > Sure enough, my own machine has (with apologies for formatting): > > btth@localhost:~$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d > btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ ls > brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo google-chrome.repo > _copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:phracek:PyCharm.repo opera.repo > _copr_phracek-PyCharm.repo.rpmsave > rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver.repo > fedora-cisco-openh264.repo > rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver.repo.rpmnew > fedora.repo > rpmfusion-nonfree-steam.repo > fedora-updates.repo > rpmfusion-nonfree-steam.repo.rpmnew > fedora-updates-testing.repo vivaldi.repo > btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ > > So do I have to do it that way on her machine, too, one browser at > a time? Or can I, say, sneakermail my file downstairs, add it into hers, > and then do a single dnf install command? Installing some repos would probably involve installing keys, too. I'm not sure if you have to import them first, or if using the repo would fetch them in. You can local install already downloaded web browser packages using yum and dnf, and if the install requires further files, such as libraries, it should download them. But unless you have very limited internet, it's probably more work to organise than just installing them from the repos over the net. Rather than sneakernet, if they're on the same network, just ssh over to one from the other, so you can compare what works on one, and cut and paste commands between them. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.108.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 16:17:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 16:41 +, Beartooth wrote: > I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been > installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. > > My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones > she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as > a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf. > > It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb > Question : How do I look up what it calls them? If they are available to directly download on her computer, you could try: dnf search web browser To get a list of potentially suitable packages. With various browsers, you get packages like opera-beta, opera- developer, opera-stable. Trying to install "opera" doesn't work. You may have struck that issue. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.108.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 16:17:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 15:31 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, Beartooth wrote: > > > > I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been > > installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. > > > > My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with > > the ones > > she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. > > Today as > > a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf. > > > > It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY > > Dumb > > Question : How do I look up what it calls them? > > If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have > the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". > > $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera A while back I wrote a little script: $ cat bin/whats #!/bin/bash # Identify what package $1 is from, if any if [ $# -ne 1 ]; then echo "Usage: whats arg" exit fi if ! bin=$(which "$1" 2> /dev/null); then if ! [ -e "$1" ] ; then # Maybe it's a file echo "$1" not found exit fi bin="$1" fi cand=$(rpm -qf "$bin" 2> /dev/null) if echo "$cand" | grep "not owned" > /dev/null 2>&1; then file "$bin" # echo No idea exit fi rpm -qi "$cand" So 'whats opera' would give the package info for the command, assuming it's installed. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 2024-03-26 at 20:21 +, Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, I Beartooth wrote: > > > > It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY > > > Dumb > > > Question : How do I look up what it calls them? > > > > If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND > > have > > the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". > > > > $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera > > I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is > this a > new version of it?? '--whatprovides' is an option to the 'rpm' command, not 'dnf. poc -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On 3/26/24 13:21, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, I Beartooth wrote: It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it?? It won't work on her machine because it doesn't have the repos setup. That's something you would run on your machine to find out where that package came from. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On 3/26/24 16:21, Beartooth wrote: On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, I Beartooth wrote: It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it?? Try rpm -qa | grep -i opera Simple google searches--say, "opera for linux" will give you links to download and install. You may find repos that contain the things you want, or you may need to install manually the old fashinged way, via 'rpm'. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 15:31:30 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, I Beartooth wrote: >> It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb >>Question : How do I look up what it calls them? > > If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have > the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". > > $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera I tried "whatprovides" on her machine (and got nothing); is this a new version of it?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 04:41:33PM -, Beartooth wrote: I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf. It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? If you know the path to the browser, perhaps /usr/bin/opera, AND have the repo for it active, you could try the dnf command "provides". $ dnf provides /usr/bin/opera -- Jon H. LaBadie jo...@jgcomp.com -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 16:44:54 +, Barry wrote: >> On 26 Mar 2024, at 16:42, Beartooth wrote: >>It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb >> Question : How do I look up what it calls them? > > I don’t think Fedora packages most of them. > My guess is you downloaded them from the vendor site. > And/or added repos to install and update them from. > Have a look in /etc/yum.repos.d to see if there are obvious .repo files. Sure enough, my own machine has (with apologies for formatting): btth@localhost:~$ cd /etc/yum.repos.d btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ ls brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_.repo google-chrome.repo _copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:phracek:PyCharm.repo opera.repo _copr_phracek-PyCharm.repo.rpmsaverpmfusion-nonfree- nvidia-driver.repo fedora-cisco-openh264.reporpmfusion-nonfree- nvidia-driver.repo.rpmnew fedora.repo rpmfusion-nonfree- steam.repo fedora-updates.repo rpmfusion-nonfree- steam.repo.rpmnew fedora-updates-testing.repo vivaldi.repo btth@localhost:/etc/yum.repos.d$ So do I have to do it that way on her machine, too, one browser at a time? Or can I, say, sneakermail my file downstairs, add it into hers, and then do a single dnf install command? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On 03/26/2024 10:55 AM, Will McDonald wrote: And those launchers live under /usr/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/applications/ I don't know about Gnome, but in Xfce, you can right-click on a launcher on the desktop and select Edit Launcher. KISS. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 16:48, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/26/2024 10:41 AM, Beartooth wrote: > > It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb > > Question : How do I look up what it calls them? > > Assuming that they have launchers on your desktop, edit the launcher and > look at the command. HTH, HAND. > And those launchers live under /usr/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/applications/ For example: wmcdonald@fedora:~$ grep Exec /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop Exec=firefox %u Exec=firefox --new-window %u Exec=firefox --private-window %u Exec=firefox --ProfileManager -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
On 03/26/2024 10:41 AM, Beartooth wrote: It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? Assuming that they have launchers on your desktop, edit the launcher and look at the command. HTH, HAND. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: VDQ finding dnf names
> On 26 Mar 2024, at 16:42, Beartooth wrote: > > >I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been > installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. > >My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones > she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as > a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf. > >It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb > Question : How do I look up what it calls them? I don’t think Fedora packages most of them. My guess is you downloaded them from the vendor site. And/or added repos to install and update them from. Have a look in /etc/yum.repos.d to see if there are obvious .repo files. Barry > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > -- > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
VDQ finding dnf names
I normally have two or three browsers open. Most have been installed for so long I no longer remember what dnf calls them. My wife, who also runs F39, has been having trouble with the ones she has, and I have yet to get around to trying to diagnose them. Today as a stopgap I tried to install some others for her, using dnf. It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
