Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/26/2015 04:49 PM, Mickey wrote: g, i'm getting number of error messages that Scripts are not Starting. ok. i will/must admit that i am not versed on all of how/what Browser Console messages relate to. the few times i have used it, i was able to swag my way thru and come up with a solution. unfortunately, mozilla does not have a page relating Browser Console and i have yet to find any site that does. therefore, i suggest you take problem to mozilla's support-firefox list to see if there is anyone there with some knowledge about Browser Console. a couple question first: [do not recall if already asked, too lazy to look back thru thread ;-) ] is this problem related in any way to an add-on to firefox or chrome? did you try starting with add-ons disabled? it is interesting that it happens to both firefox and chrome, which indicates that what is wrong is common to both. ie, a bad add-on, or 2 conflicting add-ons. because it happened before 35.0 and updating did not help could well be because of a common add-on. is this problem related in any way to an update or upgrade to fedora? i wish i could be of more help, but i do know my limits. :-( -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/27/2015 09:30 PM, g wrote: well, you have not posted back for some reason or other and while my biorhythm shows my intellect is still positive, i decided to go back thru this thread and see what has gone on. this post is where we have had failure to communicate. you question of '3]', but seem to have failed to comment about having done '2]', which is a very crucial step in finding problem. see below. On 01/23/2015 09:25 PM, Mickey wrote: On 01/23/2015 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. g , Where is the logging file ? *BELOW* i have been trying to find some js errors on my system, but as of yet, none have appeared. i decided to play with the errors that i did have. my recall kick in about one of the things that i used to find where i was having problems. some of the errors showed the path to the directory; file:///home/geo/.mozilla/firefox/bsyq4708.default/extensions/ this is where add-ons are stored. so, open your 'browser console' again and look thru the logs for any reference to your extensions. because the refs are mostly to a coded name, you can find out what extension it is with firefox window active, press alt+h,t to open the tab for Troubleshooting Information, and press ctrl+f to open find bar. back in 'browser console' window drag cursor across about 10 numbers, including a - , press ctrl+c. return to Troubleshooting Information, and press ctrl+f to open find bar. press ctrl+v to fill search and locate the problem extension and make note of names. do this 4 or 5 times, then press ctrl+shift+a to open add-ons page and disable problem extensions. close firefox windows, open 'system monitor' window to 'Process Table', sort on 'Memory'. when you see firefox is fully closed, open it again. if problem clears, great. if not, repeat above until you have disabled all extensions that are causing problems. post back with what you find. g,Weird as it may be, the things that you pointed out did not help. So as a last resort, I deleted the ~/.kde folder and LogOut and back in and now everything seems to be working and no Freezes have happen. And for some unknown reason Thunderbird wouldn't start so I deleted it and reinstalled and now it is starting fine. I have a strange feeling that everything is slowly falling apart. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
well, you have not posted back for some reason or other and while my biorhythm shows my intellect is still positive, i decided to go back thru this thread and see what has gone on. this post is where we have had failure to communicate. you question of '3]', but seem to have failed to comment about having done '2]', which is a very crucial step in finding problem. see below. On 01/23/2015 09:25 PM, Mickey wrote: On 01/23/2015 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. g , Where is the logging file ? *BELOW* i have been trying to find some js errors on my system, but as of yet, none have appeared. i decided to play with the errors that i did have. my recall kick in about one of the things that i used to find where i was having problems. some of the errors showed the path to the directory; file:///home/geo/.mozilla/firefox/bsyq4708.default/extensions/ this is where add-ons are stored. so, open your 'browser console' again and look thru the logs for any reference to your extensions. because the refs are mostly to a coded name, you can find out what extension it is with firefox window active, press alt+h,t to open the tab for Troubleshooting Information, and press ctrl+f to open find bar. back in 'browser console' window drag cursor across about 10 numbers, including a - , press ctrl+c. return to Troubleshooting Information, and press ctrl+f to open find bar. press ctrl+v to fill search and locate the problem extension and make note of names. do this 4 or 5 times, then press ctrl+shift+a to open add-ons page and disable problem extensions. close firefox windows, open 'system monitor' window to 'Process Table', sort on 'Memory'. when you see firefox is fully closed, open it again. if problem clears, great. if not, repeat above until you have disabled all extensions that are causing problems. post back with what you find. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/27/2015 08:52 PM, Mickey wrote: g, Weird as it may be, the things that you pointed out did not help. which things? So as a last resort, I deleted the ~/.kde folder and LogOut and back in and now everything seems to be working and no Freezes have happen. that is strange because there is nothing related between the two that i am aware of an i just ran a 'find' with no results. And for some unknown reason Thunderbird wouldn't start so I deleted it and reinstalled and now it is starting fine. I have a strange feeling that everything is slowly falling apart. Murphy strikes again. ;-) that, or system is forcing you to clean things up. :-D anyway, at least you now know what to do in case it ever happens again. good to know that things are back to normal. for now anyway. :-D -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/24/2015 12:58 AM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 09:25 PM, Mickey wrote: On 01/23/2015 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. g , Where is the logging file ? my err. i did not make it clear. there is no logging file for the 'Browser Console' window. what i meant by _logging_ is the listings that are shown in the 'Browser Console' window. g, i'm getting number of error messages that Scripts are not Starting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 09:25 PM, Mickey wrote: On 01/23/2015 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. g , Where is the logging file ? my err. i did not make it clear. there is no logging file for the 'Browser Console' window. what i meant by _logging_ is the listings that are shown in the 'Browser Console' window. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 02:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. Hard Drive runs constantly, If I let it run for 5 to10 minutes it will straighten it self out, but sometimes I just have to shut the computer down and reboot. Sounds like a swapping problem. What does your RAM layout look like? How much of your swap space is in use? How many windows/tabs do Chrome or Firefox try and open. Do you have them open concurrently? Does it happen immediately after a reboot? It happens also when Firefox or Chrome is Starting. It doesn't happen on any one website, it can happen on any website. Please Help !! Firefox Version 35.0 Google Chrome Version 38.0.2125.111 This problem happen on previous versions, I updated both browsers, but to no prevail. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. Hard Drive runs constantly, If I let it run for 5 to10 minutes it will straighten it self out, but sometimes I just have to shut the computer down and reboot. It happens also when Firefox or Chrome is Starting. It doesn't happen on any one website, it can happen on any website. Please Help !! Firefox Version 35.0 Google Chrome Version 38.0.2125.111 This problem happen on previous versions, I updated both browsers, but to no prevail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 03:14 PM, Kevin Cummings wrote: On 01/23/2015 02:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. Hard Drive runs constantly, If I let it run for 5 to10 minutes it will straighten it self out, but sometimes I just have to shut the computer down and reboot. Sounds like a swapping problem. What does your RAM layout look like? How much of your swap space is in use? How many windows/tabs do Chrome or Firefox try and open. Do you have them open concurrently? Does it happen immediately after a reboot? It happens also when Firefox or Chrome is Starting. It doesn't happen on any one website, it can happen on any website. Please Help !! Firefox Version 35.0 Google Chrome Version 38.0.2125.111 This problem happen on previous versions, I updated both browsers, but to no prevail. Chrome and Firefox only opens one Tab when opening. I have a 2GB swap space Here is my memory layout with Chrome running with the Foxnews.com open. $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 17963281149180 647148 84636 36112 534292 -/+ buffers/cache: 5787761217552 Swap: 2097148 3281081769040 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
Hard Drive runs constantly, I don't get quite the blockage described in the original post, but certainly when I start google-chrome for the very first time after a reboot, it spends vast amounts of time rattling the disk, which I assume has something to do with all the cached data it stashed in my home directory since my system disk is an SSD and doesn't rattle :-). It takes a long time for the bookmarks and icons in the bookmark menu entries to show up. This is starting it with a blank page as the initial home screen, so no web sites are involved. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 01/23/2015 01:50 PM, Mickey wrote: FC20/KDE Run Google Chrome or Firefox and it locks my Box up, can't execute or shut anything down, It just freezes the desktop. *SWAG* 1] with firefox closed; in directory ~/.cache/,mozilla run command rm -fR * in directory ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default rm -f lock open firefox. 2] restart firefox 'Restart with Add-ons Disabled'. 3] with firefox open, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console', click [Clear], close console, close firefox. open firefox, once it opens, press ctrl+shift+j to open 'Browser Console' again, check logging for any clues. g , Where is the logging file ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What the H is Chrome and Firefox doing ??
On 01/23/2015 05:20 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Hard Drive runs constantly, I don't get quite the blockage described in the original post, but certainly when I start google-chrome for the very first time after a reboot, it spends vast amounts of time rattling the disk, which I assume has something to do with all the cached data it stashed in my home directory since my system disk is an SSD and doesn't rattle :-). It takes a long time for the bookmarks and icons in the bookmark menu entries to show up. This is starting it with a blank page as the initial home screen, so no web sites are involved. Yeah, Chrome has gotten really bad lately (the last few weeks). Subsequent start-ups go a lot faster as I guess it has cached some of its stuff in memory. On my machine Firefox starts up faster. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
