Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 07:29 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > After some more investigation I'm suspecting that this may have been > unrelated to the fw update. I've seen 2 times since where my phone > has failed trying to connect to the 5G until I rebooted the router. I > did not think the boot delay and message was caused by this because I > did not think the system connected to wifi at boot time, but now I > think I was mistaken. I see on the login screen that the wifi is > already connected. Router's do stuff up, so it's well worth rebooting a router when networking goes haywire. I dare say it's possible for a malfunctioning client to do something that triggers some kind of stuff-up. Even one without bugs can get upset by power glitches. They also have firmware updates, and it's worth considering installing them. They are the thing between you and the internet, and many have security shortcomings. If it's an older one, it's also well worth considering upgrading it and you find out it has security flaws and there's no updated firmware for it. > I will say that attempting fw downgrade is probably dangerous. > That's probably true of all software as upgrades are usually tested, > but not downgrades. Some firmware updates are just a patch that's run at every boot. Don't run the patch, and it's still running how it used to before hand. Other firmware updates replace the firmware on the device. Switching back may not be possible. You'd need a copy of the older firmware, and you'd need the device to accept installing an older version. Some won't. You could be lucky and have a device with enough RAM that it won't actually install a replacement, but loads it as a second firmware. But I've only heard of that on motherboards. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
> > > After some more investigation I'm suspecting that this may have been unrelated to the fw update. I've seen 2 times since where my phone has failed trying to connect to the 5G until I rebooted the router. I did not think the boot delay and message was caused by this because I did not think the system connected to wifi at boot time, but now I think I was mistaken. I see on the login screen that the wifi is already connected. I will say that attempting fw downgrade is probably dangerous. That's probably true of all software as upgrades are usually tested, but not downgrades. Thanks for all your help! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Wed, 2022-12-21 at 07:11 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm not familiar with pinhole reset. Many devices have a tiny hole leading to a hidden reset button, that you have to poke something through to reset them. I wouldn't recommend actually using a pin, though. They can cause damage. I have a packet of wooden kebab sticks that get used for all sorts of things that have nothing to do with their original purpose, likewise with toothpicks and paperclips. > I waited for battery to drain. Yet another reason why I don't like batteries sealed in units. > Then powered up and booted fine! And the offending firmware is > reverted, and my wifi is working again. You're lucky that *that* firmware update is just a patch applied each runtime, then. If it had been and update that actually reflashed the device, it'd be a permanent change. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
Can you file it here please https://github.com/fwupd/firmware-lenovo/issues -- and then I'll tag the right people. Thanks R On Wed, 21 Dec 2022, 12:12 Neal Becker, wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 12:25 PM Richard Hughes > wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 15:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> > fwupdmgr is not well documented. The man pages suck >> >> Remember to be awesome. This is an open source project and the number >> of people writing documentation is less than one. >> >> Richard >> > I'm not familiar with pinhole reset. I waited for battery to drain. Then > powered up and booted fine! And the offending firmware is reverted, and my > wifi is working again. > > I don't know where to report the problem with the firmware update. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 12:25 PM Richard Hughes wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 15:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > fwupdmgr is not well documented. The man pages suck > > Remember to be awesome. This is an open source project and the number > of people writing documentation is less than one. > > Richard > I'm not familiar with pinhole reset. I waited for battery to drain. Then powered up and booted fine! And the offending firmware is reverted, and my wifi is working again. I don't know where to report the problem with the firmware update. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 15:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > fwupdmgr is not well documented. The man pages suck Remember to be awesome. This is an open source project and the number of people writing documentation is less than one. Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 15:18, Neal Becker wrote: > But is there maybe someway to revert the firmware updates? Or any other > ideas? "fwupdmgr get-history" would be helpful in knowing what you updated, and hopefully the older update is also there -- so "fwupdmgr downgrade" would restore the old version. Either way, filing an issue https://github.com/fwupd/firmware-lenovo would allow me to ping the right person. > Even holding the power button does nothing. Hmm, I'm erring on on a hardware issue. If you do the pinhole reset does that get things working again? Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
Well I performed 2 downgrades. On the 2nd one it totally hung, saying 100% done and will reboot. It won't. Even holding the power button does nothing. On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:27 AM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:18 AM Neal Becker wrote: > > > > Brand new lenovo x1 carbon. > > > > Today the "discover" sw update app suggest fw updates. I went ahead > with them. Now wifi isn't working properly. At boot, I get a hang on > > Job NetworkManager-wait-online.service/start running > > Sorry to hear that. I usually find the opposite is true... Newer > machines need the UEFI updates to get wifi working correctly. > > > Then it will finish boot after some time, but only 2.4G wifi works. It > won't connect to my 5GHz wifi, although it is detected. > > > > I tried an older kernel but got same results. > > > > I just received this laptop yesterday, I suppose I could try to return > it. But is there maybe someway to revert the firmware updates? Or any > other ideas? > > > > I believe you can use fwupdmgr to remove the firmware update. I think > you want `fwupdmgr downgrade [DEVICE]`. I believe you can show the > devices with `fwupdmgr get-devices`. But for the downgrade, you may > get a numbered list, and only need to specify a number. > > fwupdmgr is not well documented. The man pages suck, and there's not > much info out there on the web. The best questions/answers seem to > happen in the fwupdmgr bug reporter in GitHub. The next best set of > docs is from the --help option. > > $ fwupdmgr --help > Usage: > fwupdmgr [OPTION…] > > activate [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Activate devices > block-firmware [CHECKSUM] Blocks a specific firmware from > being installed > clear-results DEVICE-ID|GUID Clears the results from the last update > device-test [FILENAME1] [FILENAME2] > Test a device using a JSON manifest > disable-remote REMOTE-ID Disables a given remote > downgrade [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Downgrades the firmware on a device > download LOCATION Download a file > enable-remote REMOTE-ID Enables a given remote > get-approved-firmware Gets the list of approved firmware > get-blocked-firmware Gets the list of blocked firmware > get-details FILE Gets details about a firmware file > get-devices Get all devices that support > firmware updates > get-history Show history of firmware updates > get-plugins Get all enabled plugins registered > with the system > get-releases [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Gets the releases for a device > get-remotes Gets the configured remotes > get-results DEVICE-ID|GUIDGets the results from the last update > get-topology Alias to get-devices > get-updates [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Gets the list of updates for > connected hardware > get-upgrades [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Alias to get-updates > install FILE [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Install a firmware file on this > hardware > modify-config KEY,VALUE Modifies a daemon configuration value > modify-remote REMOTE-ID KEY VALUE > Modifies a given remote > refresh [FILE FILE_SIG REMOTE-ID] > Refresh metadata from remote server > reinstall [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Reinstall current firmware on the > device > report-historyShare firmware history with the > developers > security Gets the host security attributes > set-approved-firmware FILENAME|CHECKSUM1[,CHECKSUM2][,CHECKSUM3] > Sets the list of approved firmware > switch-branch [DEVICE-ID|GUID] [BRANCH] > Switch the firmware branch on the > device > sync-bkc Sync firmware versions to the host > best known configuration > unblock-firmware [CHECKSUM] Unblocks a specific firmware from > being installed > unlock DEVICE-ID|GUID Unlocks the device for firmware access > update [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Updates all specified devices to > latest firmware version, or all devices if unspecified > upgrade [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Alias to update > verify [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Checks cryptographic hash matches > firmware > verify-update [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Update the stored cryptographic > hash with current ROM contents > > Help Options: > -h, --helpShow help options > > Application Options: > -v, --verbose Show extra debugging information > --version Show client and daemon versions > --offline Schedule installation for next reboot when > possible > --allow-reinstall Allow reinstalling existing firmware versions > --allow-older Allow downgrading firmware versions >
Re: fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 10:18 AM Neal Becker wrote: > > Brand new lenovo x1 carbon. > > Today the "discover" sw update app suggest fw updates. I went ahead with > them. Now wifi isn't working properly. At boot, I get a hang on > Job NetworkManager-wait-online.service/start running Sorry to hear that. I usually find the opposite is true... Newer machines need the UEFI updates to get wifi working correctly. > Then it will finish boot after some time, but only 2.4G wifi works. It won't > connect to my 5GHz wifi, although it is detected. > > I tried an older kernel but got same results. > > I just received this laptop yesterday, I suppose I could try to return it. > But is there maybe someway to revert the firmware updates? Or any other > ideas? > I believe you can use fwupdmgr to remove the firmware update. I think you want `fwupdmgr downgrade [DEVICE]`. I believe you can show the devices with `fwupdmgr get-devices`. But for the downgrade, you may get a numbered list, and only need to specify a number. fwupdmgr is not well documented. The man pages suck, and there's not much info out there on the web. The best questions/answers seem to happen in the fwupdmgr bug reporter in GitHub. The next best set of docs is from the --help option. $ fwupdmgr --help Usage: fwupdmgr [OPTION…] activate [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Activate devices block-firmware [CHECKSUM] Blocks a specific firmware from being installed clear-results DEVICE-ID|GUID Clears the results from the last update device-test [FILENAME1] [FILENAME2] Test a device using a JSON manifest disable-remote REMOTE-ID Disables a given remote downgrade [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Downgrades the firmware on a device download LOCATION Download a file enable-remote REMOTE-ID Enables a given remote get-approved-firmware Gets the list of approved firmware get-blocked-firmware Gets the list of blocked firmware get-details FILE Gets details about a firmware file get-devices Get all devices that support firmware updates get-history Show history of firmware updates get-plugins Get all enabled plugins registered with the system get-releases [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Gets the releases for a device get-remotes Gets the configured remotes get-results DEVICE-ID|GUIDGets the results from the last update get-topology Alias to get-devices get-updates [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Gets the list of updates for connected hardware get-upgrades [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Alias to get-updates install FILE [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Install a firmware file on this hardware modify-config KEY,VALUE Modifies a daemon configuration value modify-remote REMOTE-ID KEY VALUE Modifies a given remote refresh [FILE FILE_SIG REMOTE-ID] Refresh metadata from remote server reinstall [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Reinstall current firmware on the device report-historyShare firmware history with the developers security Gets the host security attributes set-approved-firmware FILENAME|CHECKSUM1[,CHECKSUM2][,CHECKSUM3] Sets the list of approved firmware switch-branch [DEVICE-ID|GUID] [BRANCH] Switch the firmware branch on the device sync-bkc Sync firmware versions to the host best known configuration unblock-firmware [CHECKSUM] Unblocks a specific firmware from being installed unlock DEVICE-ID|GUID Unlocks the device for firmware access update [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Updates all specified devices to latest firmware version, or all devices if unspecified upgrade [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Alias to update verify [DEVICE-ID|GUID] Checks cryptographic hash matches firmware verify-update [DEVICE-ID|GUID]Update the stored cryptographic hash with current ROM contents Help Options: -h, --helpShow help options Application Options: -v, --verbose Show extra debugging information --version Show client and daemon versions --offline Schedule installation for next reboot when possible --allow-reinstall Allow reinstalling existing firmware versions --allow-older Allow downgrading firmware versions --allow-branch-switch Allow switching firmware branch --force Force the action by relaxing some runtime checks -y, --assume-yes Answer yes to all questions --signSign the uploaded data with the client certificate --no-unreported-check Do not check for unreported history --no-metadata-check Do not check for old metadata
fwupd broke my wifi on new laptop
Brand new lenovo x1 carbon. Today the "discover" sw update app suggest fw updates. I went ahead with them. Now wifi isn't working properly. At boot, I get a hang on Job NetworkManager-wait-online.service/start running Then it will finish boot after some time, but only 2.4G wifi works. It won't connect to my 5GHz wifi, although it is detected. I tried an older kernel but got same results. I just received this laptop yesterday, I suppose I could try to return it. But is there maybe someway to revert the firmware updates? Or any other ideas? Thanks, Neal ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
