Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-04-22 Thread Robin Laing

On 2015-04-13 07:53, Tim wrote:

On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 21:05 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:

In yum.conf I have (domain hidden) proxy=http:/webproxy.XXX.X:8080


Does your actual proxy config have http://; rather than http:/?

Can you check that your proxy is working properly?



Sorry for taking so long.

It is http:// and it works for yum and yumex.

Today, doing updates I think I found the issue.  Our corporate firewall 
does bandwidth management and if you download over a certain amount of 
data, it starts to throttle the path.  This will be a subject of another 
message.


When it does this, it blocks site access and becomes slow, very slow.  I 
have come to the conclusion that fedup won't work through the firewall 
because of this.  I will have to create a local mirror to use fedup.


Running fedup multiple times finally got to the point that it said it 
didn't have a boot image.  I was already late so I didn't try anything 
after that.


Robin

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-04-13 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 21:05 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
 In yum.conf I have (domain hidden) proxy=http:/webproxy.XXX.X:8080

Does your actual proxy config have http://; rather than http:/?

Can you check that your proxy is working properly?

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-04-12 Thread Robin Laing

On 2015-04-10 10:41, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 04/09/2015 08:05 PM, Robin Laing wrote:

On 2015-04-02 10:51, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 04/01/2015 09:44 PM, Robin Laing wrote:

On 2015-03-31 11:49, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:



The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended
if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users.
Does it still say this?



In general, upgrades are recommended to be run in a more minimal
environment but since fedup only installs packages in a special
environment
anyway, there is nothing stopping you from running it within GNOME or
KDE

Rahul





I am running it from a terminal.  no X.

Corporate firewall is preventing system from getting the necessary
files.

All documentation states that it is supposed to work through the
firewall and use the yum.conf file to find the proxy.

I will look at the fedora-upgrade and try that.

I guess I will submit a bug report on fedup about this.
13 11:23:01 2015




snip


Wow! It certainly appears that a lot of the .ca repos (e.g.
http://www.muug.mb.ca) are returning 403 errors, yet you say you can
update. My guess is there's something very wrong with your fedup
configuration such as having a bad list of repos. My fedup logs, for
example, don't show downloading any of that repodata with the long
hex strings in front, but then again, my fedups worked.

Try reinstalling fedup: yum reinstall fedup and try the fedup
operation again.
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The domain I am on is a .ca domain and trying to get the nearest 
repositories.  Also the way that I cut out much of the chaff.  These are 
also from the log file.


[52.861] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://fedora.osuosl.org/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
[54.379] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] FTP Error 403 - The requested URL returned error: 403 
ExecutableDownloadsNew
[54.563] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://mirror.fdcservers.net/fedora/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
[55.775] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
ftp://ftp.uci.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] FTP Error 403 - The requested URL returned error: 403 
ExecutableDownloadsNew
[57.698] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
[58.550] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] FTP Error 403 - The requested URL returned error: 403 
ExecutableDownloadsNew
[58.765] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://ftp.linux.ncsu.edu/pub/fedora/linux/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden
[59.036] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora/updates/21/x86_64/repodata/d61215d5ea8188cf12c9cc126166e2ac4461f5eb634180d066db955e1cc85060-comps-f21.xml.gz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden


As for the long hex string.  I still saw those on Friday.


I tried again and after about three runs, after re-installing fedup, I 
finally get to not finding the image.  I tried it as I was trying to 
run out the door for the weekend.


It is success.  I will try again on Monday to see where I get.

I need to change a setting on yum for timeouts due to the firewall 
checking every file, it can be slow.  Of course, a Win 8.1 update I did 
yesterday took over 5 hours on a laptop on my home network.  No progress 
indicator on the downloads is frustrating.




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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-04-02 Thread Rick Stevens

On 04/01/2015 09:44 PM, Robin Laing wrote:

On 2015-03-31 11:49, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:



The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended
if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users.
Does it still say this?



In general, upgrades are recommended to be run in a more minimal
environment but since fedup only installs packages in a special
environment
anyway, there is nothing stopping you from running it within GNOME or KDE

Rahul





I am running it from a terminal.  no X.

Corporate firewall is preventing system from getting the necessary files.

All documentation states that it is supposed to work through the
firewall and use the yum.conf file to find the proxy.

I will look at the fedora-upgrade and try that.

I guess I will submit a bug report on fedup about this.


You do have the proxy http://whatever; or proxy libproxy set in your
/etc/yum.conf file, right?

When you say your corporate firewall is blocking things, is it really
blocking or limiting the amount of data you can download from the
outside world? When you run fedup with the -v or -d options, what 
are you seeing?

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-04-01 Thread Robin Laing

On 2015-03-31 11:49, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:



The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended
if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users.
Does it still say this?



In general, upgrades are recommended to be run in a more minimal
environment but since fedup only installs packages in a special environment
anyway, there is nothing stopping you from running it within GNOME or KDE

Rahul





I am running it from a terminal.  no X.

Corporate firewall is preventing system from getting the necessary files.

All documentation states that it is supposed to work through the 
firewall and use the yum.conf file to find the proxy.


I will look at the fedora-upgrade and try that.

I guess I will submit a bug report on fedup about this.

Robin
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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/30/2015 09:05 PM, Robin Laing wrote:

On 2015-03-29 19:33, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/29/2015 04:53 PM, Robin Laing wrote:


I really don't want to have to upgrade manually again.


You might want to try the unofficial route, upgrade-fedora.



Are you saying to just try upgrading without using fedup?


Yes, but I got the name wrong; it's fedora-upgrade, available from the 
updates repo.

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-31 Thread Timothy Murphy
Robin Laing wrote:

 The one reason I would like to use fedup is all the configuration files
 that I have to fight through.

The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended
if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users.
Does it still say this?

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-31 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:


 The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended
 if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users.
 Does it still say this?


In general, upgrades are recommended to be run in a more minimal
environment but since fedup only installs packages in a special environment
anyway, there is nothing stopping you from running it within GNOME or KDE

Rahul
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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-30 Thread Robin Laing

On 2015-03-29 19:33, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 03/29/2015 04:53 PM, Robin Laing wrote:


I really don't want to have to upgrade manually again.


You might want to try the unofficial route, upgrade-fedora.



Are you saying to just try upgrading without using fedup?

The one reason I would like to use fedup is all the configuration files 
that I have to fight through.


It would be worth it to test.

According to bug 892994, fedup is supposed to use the proxy setting in 
yum.conf.


I might try the --instrepo= flag to see if that makes any difference 
than trying to go through the mirrors.


I will take a closer look at the log files to see if I can find anything 
I missed.


Robin

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Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-29 Thread Joe Zeff

On 03/29/2015 04:53 PM, Robin Laing wrote:


I really don't want to have to upgrade manually again.


You might want to try the unofficial route, upgrade-fedora.
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help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

2015-03-29 Thread Robin Laing

Fedup won't use the proxy server where I work.

I can download packages and do yum updates by command line or yumex on 
the machine for updates.


   sudo yum update

works as expected.

I cannot run fedup.  I get error messages for every server tried as 403'd.

This is from the log file.

[ 4.623] (II) fedup.yum:log_grab_failure() 
http://fedora.mirror.gtcomm.net/releases/21/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/503597f15d6c693a96558f46fbd8ebb5853b92ef528de2a7d55a4dd021162873-comps-f21.xml.xz: 
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden


I can access the archives via web browser and download files from the 
sites so they are not blocked when using Firefox.


So from this, I am assuming that fedup isn't using the proxy settings in 
the yum configuration files or I have something configured wrong that I 
am missing.


I really don't want to have to upgrade manually again.

Robin
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