Re: NFS Mount Problem

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/16/22 22:16, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:

Fresh install of F35. I have these lines in /etc/fstab:

192.168.1.2://home/rikiheck/files /home/rikiheck/files nfs 
auto,nouser,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0
192.168.1.2://multi/  /mnt/mail/multi  nfs 
auto,user,noauto,rw,dev,nosuid,noexec,_netdev 0 0
192.168.1.2://home/photos /mnt/mail/photos nfs 
auto,user,noauto,rw,dev,nosuid,noexec,_netdev 0 0


The problem is that the first one works---i.e., it gets automatically 
mounted at start up---usually, though not always, but the others do not 
get mounted at all ever. I can manually mount them with sudo, but that 
shouldn't even be required, should it, given the 'user' flag?


You have "auto" and "noauto" in the flags.
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NFS Mount Problem

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

Fresh install of F35. I have these lines in /etc/fstab:

192.168.1.2://home/rikiheck/files /home/rikiheck/files nfs 
auto,nouser,rw,dev,nosuid,exec,_netdev 0 0
192.168.1.2://multi/  /mnt/mail/multi  nfs 
auto,user,noauto,rw,dev,nosuid,noexec,_netdev 0 0
192.168.1.2://home/photos /mnt/mail/photos nfs 
auto,user,noauto,rw,dev,nosuid,noexec,_netdev 0 0


The problem is that the first one works---i.e., it gets automatically 
mounted at start up---usually, though not always, but the others do not 
get mounted at all ever. I can manually mount them with sudo, but that 
shouldn't even be required, should it, given the 'user' flag?


I do see in /var/log/messages:

Mar 14 21:39:59 rkh-mega systemd[1]: mnt-mail-photos.mount: Deactivated 
successfully.


This was the day I did the install. There is a similar line for the 
multi one.


Any ideas?

Thanks,
Riki

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Tom H]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 George N. White III  wrote:
>
> Glad you are making progress. NFS configuration is pretty much the
> same across linux distros, so the NFS section in Debian Handbook
> should apply to Fedora (and contains links to Ubuntu docs). Arch
> Linux docs for NFS are also helpful.

Careful. Not any more.

In Arch and Fedora, the nfs-utils executables pick up the desired
options from "/etc/nfs.conf".

In Debian and Ubuntu, the nfs-utils service units source a
configuration file in order to run the nfs-utils executables with the
desired options.

Debian and Ubuntu'll upgrade to a more recent nfs-utils version sooner or later.
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-06-25 06:44, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>
> On 2020-06-24 17:38, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> As for the address of the SMB server.  Are we talking about the ASUS router? 
>>  I thought you already knew
>> that to be 192.168.50.1?  It would be the same as the router it is running 
>> on.
>> 
> °
> You cover several points here that I will need to consider but for now I need 
> some clarification on this. With the other router that works, /etc/fstab sees 
> the SMB server as 192.168.2.8 and the NFS as 192.168.2.128 and yes I know the 
> new router as 192.168.50.1. However each server is a separate computer which 
> require ip's. I normally deal with problems via ssh. With this router I 
> thought the SMB would get a new 50.something address but I've been able to 
> identify a dozen that it does show but not the smb  box. I will have to add a 
> display and keyboard to see what is happening unless there is some other way 
> to do it, that may have to wait until tomorrow since I need some assistance 
> mating cables.

It is sometimes difficult to make recommendations as to addressing without 
knowing the topology as well
as the goals. 

What is the purpose of the new ASUS router?

Is it just to hook the 4TB drive to it and act as a Samba Server on the network?

FWIW, I got the impression from the other thread that the ASUS router was going 
to replace the existing
one as the gateway to the Internet connection since the ASUS has features to do 
traffic reporting.

You don't happen to have a network diagram?  And, BTW, the .50.1 address of the 
ASUS is simply the
Factory Default and can be changed.
 

>
> "I suggested you use 192.168.0.0/16 for the address spec.  But, you indicated 
> you wanted to keep it at 192.168.2.0/24"
>
> Are you suggesting that for /etc/exports in NFS? If so I will change that 
> since it appears it may eliminate future problems such as I just had. 
> Connection beyond the LAN is normally blocked and the immediate family does 
> not present a security problem, in fact need to be able to get into my 
> computers if necessary.
>

Well, if you have multiple subnets of a network and you need to export to hosts 
on those subnets then yes that is the change that could make things easier

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 17:38, Ed Greshko wrote:

As for the address of the SMB server.  Are we talking about the ASUS router?  I 
thought you already knew
that to be 192.168.50.1?  It would be the same as the router it is running on.


°
You cover several points here that I will need to consider but for now I 
need some clarification on this. With the other router that works, 
/etc/fstab sees the SMB server as 192.168.2.8 and the NFS as 
192.168.2.128 and yes I know the new router as 192.168.50.1. However 
each server is a separate computer which require ip's. I normally deal 
with problems via ssh. With this router I thought the SMB would get a 
new 50.something address but I've been able to identify a dozen that it 
does show but not the smb  box. I will have to add a display and 
keyboard to see what is happening unless there is some other way to do 
it, that may have to wait until tomorrow since I need some assistance 
mating cables.


"I suggested you use 192.168.0.0/16 for the address spec.  But, you 
indicated you wanted to keep it at 192.168.2.0/24"


Are you suggesting that for /etc/exports in NFS? If so I will change 
that since it appears it may eliminate future problems such as I just 
had. Connection beyond the LAN is normally blocked and the immediate 
family does not present a security problem, in fact need to be able to 
get into my computers if necessary.


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Re: nfs mount problem -

[George N. White III]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 17:26, Bob Goodwin  wrote:

>
>
> On 2020-06-24 16:07, Andy Paterson via users wrote:
> > exportfs -a
> °
> Yes that looks like the command I needed. Rebooting fixed it. I will
> make certain it is in my notes, I keep everything in Notecase Pro, have
> years of notes there but they are all in the server that i could not
> connect to.   Thanks,   Bob.
>

Glad you are making progress.   NFS configuration is pretty much the same
across linux distros, so the NFS section in Debian Handbook

should apply
to Fedora (and contains links to Ubuntu docs).Arch Linux docs  for NFS

are also helpful.

Samba itself is also pretty much the same across linux distros, but there
are usually differences in security (e.g., SEL versus AppArmor) and firewall
settings.   Fedora 32 "simple" [not] local file sharing with samba
 seems reasonable.

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Ed Greshko]

On 2020-06-25 04:18, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
>
> On 2020-06-24 16:05, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep nfs
>>
>> probably shows the name you want. "nfs-server" is
>> probably the right name (some other distro must call
>> it just "nfs" - I have so many virtual machines for testing
>> I lose track of what things are called in different
>> distros).
> °
> / Rebooted and that restored my NFS access, a major step toward success.
>
>  The SMB server is next, I still don't know what address it was given, if 
> any. But tomorrow is soon enough for that.

I must say I was happy to have been sleeping during this thread.  :-) :-)

The command you're searching for would have been "exportfs".  And reading the 
man page it would have
stated "exportfs - maintain table of exported NFS file systems".  Using this 
command can be better than
editing the /etc/exports file directly as I think it notifies the system of 
changes so restarting services
won't be needed.

From a previous thread, months ago, when you had NFS issues I'm 90% certain 
that at some point
I suggested you use 192.168.0.0/16 for the address spec.  But, you indicated 
you wanted to keep it
at 192.168.2.0/24 as you felt it was more secure.

As for the address of the SMB server.  Are we talking about the ASUS router?  I 
thought you already knew
that to be 192.168.50.1?  It would be the same as the router it is running on.
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 16:07, Andy Paterson via users wrote:

exportfs -a

°
Yes that looks like the command I needed. Rebooting fixed it. I will 
make certain it is in my notes, I keep everything in Notecase Pro, have 
years of notes there but they are all in the server that i could not 
connect to.   Thanks,   Bob.


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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 16:05, Tom Horsley wrote:

systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep nfs

probably shows the name you want. "nfs-server" is
probably the right name (some other distro must call
it just "nfs" - I have so many virtual machines for testing
I lose track of what things are called in different
distros).

°
/ Rebooted and that restored my NFS access, a major step toward success.

 The SMB server is next, I still don't know what address it was given, 
if any. But tomorrow is soon enough for that.




Next will be the
/

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Tom H]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 Bob Goodwin  wrote:
> On 2020-06-24 15:45, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>
>> systemctl restart nfs
>
> No that doesn't work -
>
> [root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfs
> Failed to restart nfs.service: Unit nfs.service not found.
>
> [root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfsd
> Failed to restart nfsd.service: Unit nfsd.service not found

systemctl restart nfs-utils

Simpler:
exportfs -ar
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Andy Paterson via users]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2020 21:05:43 BST Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:52:55 -0400
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
> 
> 
> > [root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfs
> > Failed to restart nfs.service: Unit nfs.service not found.
> 
> 
> systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep nfs
> 
> probably shows the name you want. "nfs-server" is
> probably the right name (some other distro must call
> it just "nfs" - I have so many virtual machines for testing
> I lose track of what things are called in different
> distros).
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:52:55 -0400
Bob Goodwin wrote:

> [root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfs
> Failed to restart nfs.service: Unit nfs.service not found.

systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep nfs

probably shows the name you want. "nfs-server" is
probably the right name (some other distro must call
it just "nfs" - I have so many virtual machines for testing
I lose track of what things are called in different
distros).
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 15:45, Tom Horsley wrote:

systemctl restart nfs

°
No that doesn't work -

[root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfs
Failed to restart nfs.service: Unit nfs.service not found.

[root@localhost bobg]# systemctl restart nfsd
Failed to restart nfsd.service: Unit nfsd.service not found

I will simply re-boot it.  Thanks for the help,   Bob

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:38:41 -0400
Bob Goodwin wrote:

> I think there is a command to run after making 
> a change but I forget that one, do you know of it?

I think "systemctl restart nfs" does all that is required
(unless the name isn't plain "nfs", but I bet it will have
nfs as part of the name anyway).
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 15:37, Tom Horsley wrote:

/nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24

Chek the /etc/exports file, it may have the .2 hard coded
from the previous setup.

°
Yes, I need the command to re run exports ...

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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 15:22, Roger Heflin wrote:

hopefully someplace in the interface there is a way to change that.

 From the command line it may be in /etc/exports and may look like this:
/usr/local  192.168.0.255/8(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
I don't know if from the ssh into the router you can edit that, or if
they put it in that file

 From the command line you may be able to run this:
  exportfs -u 192.168.1.1/24:/tmp

That not being .50.0/24 would cause the access denied message.

°
Yes I found it in /etc/exports and changed it but I was trying to avoid 
rebooting the server again. My notes are in the server and I am 
handicapped without them, I think there is a command to run after making 
a change but I forget that one, do you know of it?
Else in the time I've spent trying I could have rebooted several times 
over ...


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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 14:59:17 -0400
Bob Goodwin wrote:

> Export list for nfs:
> /nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24

Chek the /etc/exports file, it may have the .2 hard coded
from the previous setup.
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Roger Heflin]

hopefully someplace in the interface there is a way to change that.

From the command line it may be in /etc/exports and may look like this:
/usr/local  192.168.0.255/8(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
I don't know if from the ssh into the router you can edit that, or if
they put it in that file

From the command line you may be able to run this:
 exportfs -u 192.168.1.1/24:/tmp

That not being .50.0/24 would cause the access denied message.

So still on what was Wildblue I guess?   You probably should sign up
for updates on this web site if you have not,
https://www.starlink.com/  its satellites are going go to be in a much
lower orbit with much less latency.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 2:01 PM Bob Goodwin  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2020-06-24 14:19, Roger Heflin wrote:
> > On an nfs server you also need to someplace defined what is allowed to
> > mount it and what permissions they have (readonly or rw).
> >
> > do this on linux with the ip address of the router
> > showmount -a ipaddr
> > showmount -e ipaddr
> >
> > -e shows what is "exported" on the nfs server, -a shows who it thinks
> > has it mounted (this list is somewhat unreliable, it may have extra
> > entries of nodes that did not umount before crashing or being booted).
> °
> [bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -a nfs
> All mount points on nfs:
>
> [bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -a 192.168.50.32
> All mount points on 192.168.50.32:
>
> [bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -e nfs
> Export list for nfs:
> /nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24
>
> Where is the ".2" subnet coming from in the bottom line? If it is needed
> it ought to have been set to ".50" by the router dhcp /would expect. I
> believe the .2" was set  y the RT-N66U router I was using and cans still
> switch back too, all I did was turn the router off when I added the new
> one ...
>
> Viasat provides a modem with two ethrnet ports and Dishnetwork had one
> on the other port which I liberated for my new router. There was almost
> no interest in the TV connection and I pulled the ac plug on that one.
>
> None of that would explain ///nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24 though, i
> would expect that to be 50 not 2? nfs4exports/home//-- is ok.
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 14:19, Roger Heflin wrote:

On an nfs server you also need to someplace defined what is allowed to
mount it and what permissions they have (readonly or rw).

do this on linux with the ip address of the router
showmount -a ipaddr
showmount -e ipaddr

-e shows what is "exported" on the nfs server, -a shows who it thinks
has it mounted (this list is somewhat unreliable, it may have extra
entries of nodes that did not umount before crashing or being booted).

°
[bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -a nfs
All mount points on nfs:

[bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -a 192.168.50.32
All mount points on 192.168.50.32:

[bobg@localhost ~]$ showmount -e nfs
Export list for nfs:
/nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24

Where is the ".2" subnet coming from in the bottom line? If it is needed 
it ought to have been set to ".50" by the router dhcp /would expect. I 
believe the .2" was set  y the RT-N66U router I was using and cans still 
switch back too, all I did was turn the router off when I added the new 
one ...


Viasat provides a modem with two ethrnet ports and Dishnetwork had one 
on the other port which I liberated for my new router. There was almost 
no interest in the TV connection and I pulled the ac plug on that one.


None of that would explain ///nfs4exports/home 192.168.2.0/24 though, i 
would expect that to be 50 not 2? nfs4exports/home//-- is ok.


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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

On 2020-06-24 14:00, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
Speaking from personal experience, I always forget to set the 
firewalls to allow NFS traffic on both sides of the link.


--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL


°
I thought about firewall problems but I've changed nothing that I know 
of that would cause problems and some things still work? I can stop the 
firewall on my fedora 32 on this end but not sure about how to do the 
NSF server via ssh, will look at that. I've never had a firewall problem 
with a router change ...


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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Roger Heflin]

On an nfs server you also need to someplace defined what is allowed to
mount it and what permissions they have (readonly or rw).

do this on linux with the ip address of the router
showmount -a ipaddr
showmount -e ipaddr

-e shows what is "exported" on the nfs server, -a shows who it thinks
has it mounted (this list is somewhat unreliable, it may have extra
entries of nodes that did not umount before crashing or being booted).

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM Bob Goodwin  wrote:
>
> I have been chipping away at incorporating a new ASUS RT-ACFH13 router
> in my system for a few days but it is beginning to seem like an
> eternity! I have used a number of routers and they usually work after
> some configuration, it's not a difficult thing to do. But I am beginning
> to wonder if this one has some unusual defect. It's wifi works, the
> iPhones, iPads, a Mac portable, even a Windows10 portable seem to
> connect without complaints.
>
> But my wired ethernet NFS server and the SMB server do not? The USB
> connected drive is listed but shows as "not mounted."
> the NFS server is listed among the wired devices along with two
> Workstations and a Brother printer all of which work, but the NFS server
> does not. and from this computer I get "192.168.50.32access denied":
>
> [root@WS1 bobg]# mount 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home /media/nfs
> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting
> 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home
>
> I can ssh to 192.168.50.32 and from there I can ssh back to either
> workstation, systemctl status shows sshd Active on both of them. I have
> changed nothing in the NFS server, the router set the ip addresses in
> the .50 subnet which is ok I would think.
>
> What am I missing or should I return the router to Amazon?   Bob
>
> --
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Re: nfs mount problem -

[Robert G (Doc) Savage via users]

Speaking from personal experience, I always forget to set the firewalls to 
allow NFS traffic on both sides of the link.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL


-Original Message-
From: Bob Goodwin 
Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
To: Fedora List 
Subject: nfs mount problem -
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 12:08:30 -0400

I have been chipping away at incorporating a new ASUS RT-ACFH13 router in my 
system for a few days but it is beginning to seem like an eternity! I have used 
a number of routers and they usually work after some configuration, it's not a 
difficult thing to do. But I am beginning to wonder if this one has some 
unusual defect. It's wifi works, the iPhones, iPads, a Mac portable, even a 
Windows10 portable seem to connect without complaints.
But my wired ethernet NFS server and the SMB server do not? The USB connected 
drive is listed but shows as "not mounted."the NFS server is listed among the 
wired devices along with two Workstations and a Brother printer all of which 
work, but the NFS server does not. and from this computer I get 
"192.168.50.32access denied":
[root@WS1 bobg]# mount 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home /media/nfsmount.nfs: 
access denied by server while mounting 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home
I can ssh to 192.168.50.32 and from there I can ssh back to either workstation, 
systemctl status shows sshd Active on both of them. I have changed nothing in 
the NFS server, the router set the ip addresses in the .50 subnet which is ok I 
would think.
What am I missing or should I return the router to Amazon?   Bob
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nfs mount problem -

[Bob Goodwin]

I have been chipping away at incorporating a new ASUS RT-ACFH13 router 
in my system for a few days but it is beginning to seem like an 
eternity! I have used a number of routers and they usually work after 
some configuration, it's not a difficult thing to do. But I am beginning 
to wonder if this one has some unusual defect. It's wifi works, the 
iPhones, iPads, a Mac portable, even a Windows10 portable seem to 
connect without complaints.


But my wired ethernet NFS server and the SMB server do not? The USB 
connected drive is listed but shows as "not mounted."
the NFS server is listed among the wired devices along with two 
Workstations and a Brother printer all of which work, but the NFS server 
does not. and from this computer I get "192.168.50.32access denied":


[root@WS1 bobg]# mount 192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home /media/nfs
mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 
192.168.50.32:/nfs4exports/home


I can ssh to 192.168.50.32 and from there I can ssh back to either 
workstation, systemctl status shows sshd Active on both of them. I have 
changed nothing in the NFS server, the router set the ip addresses in 
the .50 subnet which is ok I would think.


What am I missing or should I return the router to Amazon?   Bob

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