Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Franta Hanzlík 
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:09:41 -0600
Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com> wrote:

> Dear friends,
> 
> pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi. 
> 
> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210
> 
> If you are in need of this alternative/workaround to the discontinued pdftk, 
> please test and provide karma feedback.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Ranjan

But pdf-stapler cover only some pdftk possibilities. Has someone on Fedora
solved filling FDF/XFDF data into PDF and export these data from filled
PDF form (preferable by some comman line tool)?
I found that is possible with mcpdf (https://github.com/m-click/mcpdf -
this should be newer direct pdftk replacement), but this package
seems not be in Fedora. Someone managed to successfuly build mcpdf rpm
packages for Fedora?
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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ted Roche 
This was discussed last year. I think the mcpdf utility also depends
on iText, which has some licensing issues.

Here is some of that discussion:

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/65261/pdftk-not-in-f21/

I also have client applications that depend on pdftk. My solution was
to switch them to Ubuntu.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Franta Hanzlík <fra...@hanzlici.cz> wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:09:41 -0600
> Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi.
>>
>> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210
>>
>> If you are in need of this alternative/workaround to the discontinued pdftk, 
>> please test and provide karma feedback.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Ranjan
>
> But pdf-stapler cover only some pdftk possibilities. Has someone on Fedora
> solved filling FDF/XFDF data into PDF and export these data from filled
> PDF form (preferable by some comman line tool)?
> I found that is possible with mcpdf (https://github.com/m-click/mcpdf -
> this should be newer direct pdftk replacement), but this package
> seems not be in Fedora. Someone managed to successfuly build mcpdf rpm
> packages for Fedora?
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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Raman Gupta 
On 01/14/2016 04:33 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 14.01.2016, Raman Gupta wrote: 
> 
>> Pdf-stapler at least provides the select/cat capability of pdftk,
>> which mcpdf does not.
> 
> You can do the most with PDF-shuffler, in a graphical way.
> 
> [htd@chiara ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -i pdfshuffler
> pdfshuffler-0.6.0-7.fc23.noarch

Yup, pdfshuffler is good for one-offs. But you can't script it.
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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ian Malone 
On 14 January 2016 at 18:38, Raman Gupta  wrote:
> On 01/14/2016 01:27 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 14 January 2016 at 18:19, Ian Malone  wrote:
>>> On 14 January 2016 at 13:58, Ted Roche  wrote:
 This was discussed last year. I think the mcpdf utility also depends
 on iText, which has some licensing issues.

 Here is some of that discussion:

 https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/65261/pdftk-not-in-f21/

 I also have client applications that depend on pdftk. My solution was
 to switch them to Ubuntu.

>>>
>>> I'm not sure that was the problem last time, there was also something
>>> about libgcj being needed. I know this keeps going round in circles,
>>> so apologies if I'm repeating old information, but I think this is
>>> what killed it when rpmfusion tried,
>>> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2009-January/003671.html
>>>
>>
>> Current itext license in case mcpdf is actually a possibility. Would
>> probably need someone from fedora legal to check it's acceptable as
>> they've used some modifications, which may be allowed by the APL, but
>> I know itext has a little history with making non-free modifications
>> to free licenses:
>> https://github.com/itext/itextpdf/blob/master/LICENSE.md
>>
>
> No, I believe the ambiguous additional language at the end of that
> page, requiring a commercial license in certain situations, is the
> actual problem. Here is the relevant post from Redhat legal:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html
>

Fairly comprehensive then. I didn't look back far enough...

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ian Malone 
On 9 January 2016 at 16:09, Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi.
>
> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210
>
> If you are in need of this alternative/workaround to the discontinued pdftk, 
> please test and provide karma feedback.
>
> Many thanks,
> Ranjan
>

Thanks, have missed having pdftk around. Will have a look in a while
if karma still required. Anything in particular need checking?

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Raman Gupta 
On 01/14/2016 01:27 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 14 January 2016 at 18:19, Ian Malone <ibmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14 January 2016 at 13:58, Ted Roche <tedro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This was discussed last year. I think the mcpdf utility also depends
>>> on iText, which has some licensing issues.
>>>
>>> Here is some of that discussion:
>>>
>>> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/65261/pdftk-not-in-f21/
>>>
>>> I also have client applications that depend on pdftk. My solution was
>>> to switch them to Ubuntu.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure that was the problem last time, there was also something
>> about libgcj being needed. I know this keeps going round in circles,
>> so apologies if I'm repeating old information, but I think this is
>> what killed it when rpmfusion tried,
>> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2009-January/003671.html
>>
> 
> Current itext license in case mcpdf is actually a possibility. Would
> probably need someone from fedora legal to check it's acceptable as
> they've used some modifications, which may be allowed by the APL, but
> I know itext has a little history with making non-free modifications
> to free licenses:
> https://github.com/itext/itextpdf/blob/master/LICENSE.md
> 

No, I believe the ambiguous additional language at the end of that
page, requiring a commercial license in certain situations, is the
actual problem. Here is the relevant post from Redhat legal:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/legal/2011-June/001656.html

And since mcpdf uses itext, it will have the same issue. In any case,
mcpdf is, at least currently, woefully short of being a pdftk
replacement. And it doesn't seem the author or anyone else is working
to improve that situation -- the last commit that added functionality
is two years ago (https://github.com/m-click/mcpdf). There is an mcpdf
copr though (I haven't used it):

https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/thomasfedb/mcpdf/

Pdf-stapler at least provides the select/cat capability of pdftk,
which mcpdf does not.

Regards,
Raman

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ian Malone 
On 14 January 2016 at 13:58, Ted Roche  wrote:
> This was discussed last year. I think the mcpdf utility also depends
> on iText, which has some licensing issues.
>
> Here is some of that discussion:
>
> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/65261/pdftk-not-in-f21/
>
> I also have client applications that depend on pdftk. My solution was
> to switch them to Ubuntu.
>

I'm not sure that was the problem last time, there was also something
about libgcj being needed. I know this keeps going round in circles,
so apologies if I'm repeating old information, but I think this is
what killed it when rpmfusion tried,
http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2009-January/003671.html


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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ranjan Maitra 
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:22:24 + Ian Malone <ibmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9 January 2016 at 16:09, Ranjan Maitra <maitra.mbox.igno...@inbox.com> 
> wrote:
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi.
> >
> > See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210
> >
> > If you are in need of this alternative/workaround to the discontinued 
> > pdftk, please test and provide karma feedback.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Ranjan
> >
> 
> Thanks, have missed having pdftk around. Will have a look in a while
> if karma still required. Anything in particular need checking?

Karma would be good! Nothing in particular requires checking: everything has 
worked for me for months, perhaps a year, but my environment is not exactly the 
same as that of everybody else.

I think the 5-day window expires tomorrow so karma or not I intend to push it 
when given the chance.

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Heinz Diehl 
On 14.01.2016, Raman Gupta wrote: 

> Pdf-stapler at least provides the select/cat capability of pdftk,
> which mcpdf does not.

You can do the most with PDF-shuffler, in a graphical way.

[htd@chiara ~]$ rpm -qa | grep -i pdfshuffler
pdfshuffler-0.6.0-7.fc23.noarch

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-14 Thread Ian Malone 
On 14 January 2016 at 18:19, Ian Malone  wrote:
> On 14 January 2016 at 13:58, Ted Roche  wrote:
>> This was discussed last year. I think the mcpdf utility also depends
>> on iText, which has some licensing issues.
>>
>> Here is some of that discussion:
>>
>> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/65261/pdftk-not-in-f21/
>>
>> I also have client applications that depend on pdftk. My solution was
>> to switch them to Ubuntu.
>>
>
> I'm not sure that was the problem last time, there was also something
> about libgcj being needed. I know this keeps going round in circles,
> so apologies if I'm repeating old information, but I think this is
> what killed it when rpmfusion tried,
> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2009-January/003671.html
>

Current itext license in case mcpdf is actually a possibility. Would
probably need someone from fedora legal to check it's acceptable as
they've used some modifications, which may be allowed by the APL, but
I know itext has a little history with making non-free modifications
to free licenses:
https://github.com/itext/itextpdf/blob/master/LICENSE.md

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Re: pdf-stapler

2016-01-13 Thread Matthew Miller 
On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 10:09:41AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Dear friends,
> pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi. 
> See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210

Nice! Thanks for your long effort on this!

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pdf-stapler

2016-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra 
Dear friends,

pdf-stapler has finally made it to the Fedora testing repos on Bodhi. 

See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234210

If you are in need of this alternative/workaround to the discontinued pdftk, 
please test and provide karma feedback.

Many thanks,
Ranjan

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