Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-17 Thread Freak Trick
Yesterday, I installed F15 from Live CD (downloaded around May release of the 
version). The first run was fine and I was able to install all usual 
applications - Chrome, Audacious, VLC, gcc, gcc-c++. Next morning, when I 
started the machine, I could reach up to the login menu and login successfully, 
thereafter the screen only had the default F15/Gnome3 wallpaper and the mouse 
cursor; nothing else would appear. Not even the task bar. Only keys which were 
being responded to where Ctrl+Alt+Del giving a logout dialog.

I formatted and reinstalled. Again it worked fine the first time. But next boot 
gave the same problem. Moreover without being able to access the desktop, I am 
short of ideas to do anything to resolve the problem.

Any workarounds?-- 
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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-17 Thread Freak Trick
No. There no response for either of the keys that you mention. 
Only dialogs that turn up are  - 1. Logout: On CTRL+ALT+DEL and 2. Wifi 
Password Prompt else nothing. BTW, Just before shutting down the computer I 
installed the latest google chrome download (from website) and VLC (from yum) 
and on clicking shut down I got some alert about crash in Nautilis. However, I 
could not read the details as the system proceeded with shut down process.



 From: Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com
To: Freak Trick trickfr...@ymail.com; Community support for Fedora users 
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15
 
On 01/17/2012 10:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:
 Yesterday, I installed F15 from Live CD (downloaded around May release
 of the version). The first run was fine and I was able to install all
 usual applications - Chrome, Audacious, VLC, gcc, gcc-c++. Next morning,
 when I started the machine, I could reach up to the login menu and login
 successfully, thereafter the screen only had the default F15/Gnome3
 wallpaper and the mouse cursor; nothing else would appear. Not even the
 task bar. Only keys which were being responded to where Ctrl+Alt+Del
 giving a logout dialog.
 
 I formatted and reinstalled. Again it worked fine the first time. But
 next boot gave the same problem. Moreover without being able to access
 the desktop, I am short of ideas to do anything to resolve the problem.
 
 Any workarounds?
 
 
Does ALT-F2, then r enter do anything? This should reload the Gnome
desktop.

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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-17 Thread Freak Trick
I am Fairly comfortable with CLI. Just that I do not know how to skip Gnome and 
log directly into CLI. I tried to edit the systemd to multi-user target by 
booting from the live CD and accessing the hard drive where the file is stored, 
but things did not work out and still it is Gnome. If I can reach CLI, I can 
try removing a couple of packages I have installed and see if they are the 
culprits or as you mention try desktop installation.

Is there a way I can skip Gnome and go directly into CLI (barring systemd). Win 
98 had a wonderful feature that allowed direct entry into CLI by pressing F8 at 
boot and selecting appropriate option. Sadly neither XP nor Fedora seems to 
provide such an option.



 From: Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us
To: Freak Trick trickfr...@ymail.com; Community support for Fedora users 
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Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2012 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15
 
On 01/17/2012 08:59 AM, Freak Trick wrote:
 I formatted and reinstalled. Again it worked fine the first time. But
 next boot gave the same problem. Moreover without being able to access
 the desktop, I am short of ideas to do anything to resolve the problem.
 
 Any workarounds?

I'm not sure what's going on, but if it happened twice, the third time's not 
likely to be any better.  However, I take it you're not comfortable enough with 
a CLI to try to work out what's going on that way.  Why not try installing at 
least one other DE, such as KDE or XFCE along with Gnome?  Then, when (not if) 
it happens again, you can try your secondary DE and have a chance to do some 
forensics, such as groveling through /var/log/Xorg.0.log.-- 
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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-18 Thread Freak Trick
I tried reinstalling the third time today and faced the same problem. This time 
however, I was able to get into command line directly (Ctrl + Alt + F2). I have 
managed to install XFCE and it seems to be running fine. I am almost sure that 
the problem is with Nautilus. On all three occassion Nautilus crashed and post 
restart the desktop would not work. It seems to have some allergy to FF8 or 
Google Chrome. Though I am not sure which and it well could be neither. I am 
saying because after installing these packages the alter came up. (SELinux 
gives an ABRT message: /usr/bin/nautilus was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)).  
The Xorg.0.log seems to have nothing interesting either.
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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-19 Thread Freak Trick
I could not get xterm suggestion by (Pete Travis) to work; the problem still 
persits. Here is what the .xsession-errors reads - 


/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
ssh-agent is already running; starting gpg-agent without ssh support
xfdesktop[1629]: starting up
xfce4-settings-helper: Another instance is already running. Leaving...
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/gpg:0:1
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/ssh
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-cjwx76/gpg:0:1
Initializing nautilus-gdu extension

(nautilus:1744): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
** Message: applet now removed from the notification area

(nm-applet:1769): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
** Message: applet now embedded in the notification area
Shutting down nautilus-gdu extension

** (seapplet:1757): WARNING **: Error showing notification: 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name 
org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files

** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method Get with 
signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method 
Get with signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method Get with 
signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2: (19) Method 
Get with signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method Get with 
signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method 
Get with signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 'State' 
for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method Get with 
signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties doesn't exist



** (nm-applet:1769): WARNING **: _nm_object_get_property: Error getting 
'Default' for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/3: (19) Method 
Get with signature ss on interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
doesn't exist


** (deja-dup-monitor:1662): DEBUG: monitor.vala:263: Invalid next run date.  
Not scheduling a backup.

(google-chrome:1778): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_new_from_data: 
assertion `width  0' failed
[1778:1778:1698851724:ERROR:browser_main.cc(146)] Gdk: 
IA__gdk_cursor_new_from_pixbuf: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed
[1778:1778:1698851811:ERROR:browser_main.cc(146)] GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: 
assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

(exe:3436): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT 
(object)' failed

** (xfce4-session:1621): WARNING **: ICE connection 0x9518d38 rejected

** (xfce4-session:1621): WARNING **: ICE connection 0x9521610 rejected



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Re: Only desktop wallpaper after login F15

2012-01-20 Thread Freak Trick
 In my case, I could never log onto the new F16 install, graphically. 
 Just got that crappy oh no graphic, with no way to get any further. 

 However, I was lucky in that I could CTRL+ALT+F2 (or one of the other 
 terminals), and log into a command line.  I let a yum update do its 
 thing, and after that I could log into a graphical system. 

 That sort of thing would be one of my first things to try if a new 
 install wasn't working right.  Certainly not reformatting and 
 re-installing, this isn't Windows.  If the install seemed to work 
 without any errors, the first time around, then I'd be fairly sure that 
 the install had worked.  And that another attempt wouldn't be any 
 different. 




#yum update does it for me as well Gnome 3 is now working fine. Thanks!
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Yum concurrency - Multiple instances at the same time

2012-01-23 Thread Freak Trick
Is there some way I can get more than one instance of yum running?
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F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-27 Thread Freak Trick
Hi,



I have been using F15 Beta for almost a month now. I currently have 512MB RAM 
and I must say, it has been working fairly normal (in fact the experience) was 
better then when XP was on the same machine. I was a bit surprised to know that 
installing F15 Final requires a minimum of 640MB RAM and what was more 
surprising that the installation will not proceed. Moreover, F15 Final running 
from the Live CD was working quite usual and there was little impact on 
performance, of course, besides the typical Live CD performance constraints.

I was just curious why was this (blocking of installation) done on the F15 
Final Release and more so why is it not allowing the installation instead of, 
lets say, giving some kind of warning and proceeding. I was also wondering if 
there is some way around it?

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Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Freak Trick
Hi,

Thanks! For the reply. But yum itself is horribly slow on F15 beta. I rarely 
get 
above 7 Kbps, which makes online upgrade very frustrating. I even tried a lot 
of 
suggestions over the web for changing mirrors, configuring name-servers etc., 
none helped. But, things seem to be working fine on the Final Release Live CD.
Regards



From: Leonid Podolny leon...@gmail.com
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

On 05/28/2011 08:54 AM, Freak Trick wrote:

 I was also wondering if there is some way around it?
 
 Thanks!
 
My guess would be that an upgrade using yum 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq) would be such a workaround. 
Anaconda is not involved, so there is nothing to check the minimum RAM 
requirement.

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Re: F15 - 640MB RAM Requirement Issue

2011-05-28 Thread Freak Trick
Hi,

It does not seem that the slow speed is due to high load on F15 servers, I 
guess it is a problem with the beta. I have got decent processor and I don't 
think simultaneously downloading and processing would be an issue.

I guess, I will try with presto and see how it can help. But, I hope that 
further installers do not discontinue the installations when minimum 
requirements are not met.

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From: 
Kam Leo kam@gmail.com



To: 
Community support for Fedora users 
users@lists.fedoraproject.orgOn Sat, May 28, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Joe Zeff 
j...@zeff.us wrote:
 On 05/28/2011 01:22 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
 It's a trade-off. If you have a fast internet connection but a slow
 processor you might actually be better off downloading the full rpm
 instead of waiting for your processor to decompress and/or merge the
 deltas.

 True.  However, I inferred from what the OP wrote that the download time
 was an issue.  And, if you stop and think about it, it probably is.  F
 15 just came out; lots of people have just upgraded to it and are
 sucking down whatever updates have come out since F 15 was finalized.
 This can be slowing down the downloads until things stabilize.  If so,
 presto can be a big help.

 The OP stated that he had problems with the F15-beta updates. His
download speed improved when F15 reached final.
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