Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
Thanks again Dino: it's all working and checked in, and it was all much easier than I expected. No problems with SourceUnits, but I don't try to do anything remotely complex with them, so others' mileage may vary. Dino Viehland wrote: Oh, and instead of ScriptSource you can use SourceUnit. You might find there's too much stuff marked internal w/ SourceUnit so any issues you run into here would be interesting to hear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:50 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? It seems I don't actually use the engine for very much, so this sounds pretty plausible -- context.SystemState can replace Python.GetSysModule, and HostingHelpers.GetLanguageContext goes away entirely :). However, I can't see any obvious way to create a ScriptScope (engine.CreateScope) or a ScriptSource (engine.CreateScriptSourceFromString) -- even if I just dupe IronPython code, it seems I'll still need an actual PythonEngine to construct them. Am I missing something obvious? William Reade wrote: Thanks Dino -- I'll see what I can do with that :) Dino Viehland wrote: It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
Thanks Dino -- I'll see what I can do with that :) Dino Viehland wrote: It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
It seems I don't actually use the engine for very much, so this sounds pretty plausible -- context.SystemState can replace Python.GetSysModule, and HostingHelpers.GetLanguageContext goes away entirely :). However, I can't see any obvious way to create a ScriptScope (engine.CreateScope) or a ScriptSource (engine.CreateScriptSourceFromString) -- even if I just dupe IronPython code, it seems I'll still need an actual PythonEngine to construct them. Am I missing something obvious? William Reade wrote: Thanks Dino -- I'll see what I can do with that :) Dino Viehland wrote: It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
Just create Scope objects instead of ScriptScope's. Scope's are what we actually expose as modules directly to Python programs. Generally only hosting APIs see the ScriptScope's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:50 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? It seems I don't actually use the engine for very much, so this sounds pretty plausible -- context.SystemState can replace Python.GetSysModule, and HostingHelpers.GetLanguageContext goes away entirely :). However, I can't see any obvious way to create a ScriptScope (engine.CreateScope) or a ScriptSource (engine.CreateScriptSourceFromString) -- even if I just dupe IronPython code, it seems I'll still need an actual PythonEngine to construct them. Am I missing something obvious? William Reade wrote: Thanks Dino -- I'll see what I can do with that :) Dino Viehland wrote: It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine?
Oh, and instead of ScriptSource you can use SourceUnit. You might find there's too much stuff marked internal w/ SourceUnit so any issues you run into here would be interesting to hear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:50 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: Re: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? It seems I don't actually use the engine for very much, so this sounds pretty plausible -- context.SystemState can replace Python.GetSysModule, and HostingHelpers.GetLanguageContext goes away entirely :). However, I can't see any obvious way to create a ScriptScope (engine.CreateScope) or a ScriptSource (engine.CreateScriptSourceFromString) -- even if I just dupe IronPython code, it seems I'll still need an actual PythonEngine to construct them. Am I missing something obvious? William Reade wrote: Thanks Dino -- I'll see what I can do with that :) Dino Viehland wrote: It's not really possible to get back to the ScriptEngine - but you also probably don't need to. You probably want to get back to the LanguageContext(PythonContext)/ScriptDomainManager and work with those directly. ScriptEngine/ScriptRuntime are wrappers around those which expose the friendly API and provide the easy remoting features. You can get to the LanguageContext via a CodeContext. You can get a CodeContext by just defining it as the 1st parameter on a .NET method which we'll be calling at some point. For example our ModuleLoader class for pre-compiled code has a load_module method which receives a CodeContext. It then uses it to call back into the current PythonContext and create a new module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Reade Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:36 AM To: Discussion of IronPython Subject: [IronPython] (ironclad) is it possible to get the current ScriptEngine? Hi all At the moment, when a user types 'import ironclad', I create a new ScriptEngine and set that up to allow .pyd imports; I then abuse path_hooks to use the new engine to do the imports, and copy them into the original engine's sys.modules. Clearly, this is evil and wrong on any number of levels, but so far it's been (just barely) good enough. However, if I can find out which ScriptEngine is executing the code (so I can pass that into the Python25Mapper), I can greatly simplify ironclad.py and, hopefully, solve another user's problem (which, I believe, is related to sys.path not being shared between the two engines (quite rightly so, ofc ;))). So: is there any way I can get a reference to the executing engine from within IronPython code? It feels as if it should be possible, but whenever I look into it I end up chasing my tail... William ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com ___ Users mailing list Users@lists.ironpython.com http://lists.ironpython.com/listinfo.cgi/users-ironpython.com
