Re: [Scilab-users] Installing Scilab under Linux (Mint / aka Ubuntu)

2018-07-25 Thread amonmayr

Hello Claus,

Le 25/07/2018 à 20:01, Claus Futtrup a écrit :

Hi Antoine and Nikolay

Thank you for your help. I see that the easiest way is, as Antoine 
wrote, to execute a shell and execute scilab from the shell (and for 
sure, keep the shell open).
Well, the best solution I found is to use a dropdown terminal (like 
yakuake for example): pressing F12 the terminal appears/disappears. This 
way, I never have to close it and it stays open with a bunch tabs with 
the most common command line applications I use.


I tried to create a desktop "launcher" in Linux Mint, executing a 
scilab.sh script and containing 'nohup scilab.sh & disown' ... to 
release scilab from the terminal, but at no luck.

Well, I think the .desktop approach is the best one here.
You can also try to use a command launcher: with the Ubuntu I use 
(16.04), I have Alt+F2 that opens a proper command launcher and I can 
run any command line app. Note that it differs from pressing the Windows 
key that will only launch applications that have a corresponding 
*.desktop file.


I also tried to follow advice from askubuntu (below), including 
creating desktop files, etc. (see near the bottom), but still no luck.

I don't see your attempt here.
If you installed scilab from the repos, you should have a *.desktop file 
to tinker with in order to call your up-to-date scilab instead of the 
repo one.

On my system the desktop files of the repos applications are here:

    /usr/share/app-install/desktop/scilab:scilab.desktop
    /usr/share/applications/scilab.desktop

while I put the one of the applications I installed by hand  here:

    ~/.local/share/applications/

Hope it helps,

Antoine


Best regards,
Claus

On 25.07.2018 15:40, Nikolay Strelkov wrote:

Dear Claus!

As a temporarily fix you can read this solution on AskUbuntu - 
https://askubuntu.com/a/1029164/66509 
 . I have tested it. Unpacking 
to home folder works as expected (and as before).


Dear Scilab developers!

As long-time Scilab user I can't completely understand how this may 
happen. Please take a look to the mentioned bugs in the linked answer 
above and make real actions to fix these problems. Scilab is 
completely broken in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (so without real actions it 
will be broken until 2023) and does not work on development version 
18.10 too. Also it does not work on Debian 10. Please contact Debian 
and/or Ubuntu maintainers directly.


Scilab is very often used in educational purposes. For example we use 
it on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in our university to teach students.
It will be very bad if we lose such a convenient and useful 
software-tool.


---
/With best regards,
Ph.D., //associate professor at MPEI 
,

IEEE member,
maintainer of Mathieu functions toolbox for Scilab 
,

Nikolay Strelkov./

2018-07-25 15:44 GMT+03:00 Claus Futtrup >:


Hi there

I've installed Linux Mint 19 (MATE) and installing Scilab using
the Software Manager doesn't work. I cannot get the GUI to show
up (CLI works fine). There are several bug reports out there, but
AFAIK no remedy. P.S. Upon first installation I did check and see
that the GUI worked, but it never worked since and uninstalling +
installing (incl. the CLI, and BTW also including reboots)
doesn't work.

Therefore I decided to download the Linux 64-bit package from
scilab.org  ... when unpacked, I see there's
not an installer ... but as the README says, launching
./bin/scilab gives me the GUI (yaayh!)

The question is - from unpacking the software, how am I supposed
to install this already compiled scilab in my Linux? ... Am I
supposed to leave it in my /home directory? ... Sorry for my lack
of knowledge here. I hope for some kind help.

Best regards,

Claus


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Re: [Scilab-users] Installing Scilab under Linux (Mint / aka Ubuntu)

2018-07-25 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi Antoine and Nikolay

Thank you for your help. I see that the easiest way is, as Antoine 
wrote, to execute a shell and execute scilab from the shell (and for 
sure, keep the shell open).


I tried to create a desktop "launcher" in Linux Mint, executing a 
scilab.sh script and containing 'nohup scilab.sh & disown' ... to 
release scilab from the terminal, but at no luck.


I also tried to follow advice from askubuntu (below), including creating 
desktop files, etc. (see near the bottom), but still no luck.


Best regards,
Claus

On 25.07.2018 15:40, Nikolay Strelkov wrote:

Dear Claus!

As a temporarily fix you can read this solution on AskUbuntu - 
https://askubuntu.com/a/1029164/66509 
 . I have tested it. Unpacking 
to home folder works as expected (and as before).


Dear Scilab developers!

As long-time Scilab user I can't completely understand how this may 
happen. Please take a look to the mentioned bugs in the linked answer 
above and make real actions to fix these problems. Scilab is 
completely broken in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (so without real actions it will 
be broken until 2023) and does not work on development version 18.10 
too. Also it does not work on Debian 10. Please contact Debian and/or 
Ubuntu maintainers directly.


Scilab is very often used in educational purposes. For example we use 
it on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in our university to teach students.
It will be very bad if we lose such a convenient and useful 
software-tool.


---
/With best regards,
Ph.D., //associate professor at MPEI 
,

IEEE member,
maintainer of Mathieu functions toolbox for Scilab 
,

Nikolay Strelkov./

2018-07-25 15:44 GMT+03:00 Claus Futtrup >:


Hi there

I've installed Linux Mint 19 (MATE) and installing Scilab using
the Software Manager doesn't work. I cannot get the GUI to show up
(CLI works fine). There are several bug reports out there, but
AFAIK no remedy. P.S. Upon first installation I did check and see
that the GUI worked, but it never worked since and uninstalling +
installing (incl. the CLI, and BTW also including reboots) doesn't
work.

Therefore I decided to download the Linux 64-bit package from
scilab.org  ... when unpacked, I see there's
not an installer ... but as the README says, launching
./bin/scilab gives me the GUI (yaayh!)

The question is - from unpacking the software, how am I supposed
to install this already compiled scilab in my Linux? ... Am I
supposed to leave it in my /home directory? ... Sorry for my lack
of knowledge here. I hope for some kind help.

Best regards,

Claus


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Re: [Scilab-users] Installing Scilab under Linux (Mint / aka Ubuntu)

2018-07-25 Thread Nikolay Strelkov
Dear Claus!

As a temporarily fix you can read this solution on AskUbuntu -
https://askubuntu.com/a/1029164/66509 . I have tested it. Unpacking to home
folder works as expected (and as before).

Dear Scilab developers!

As long-time Scilab user I can't completely understand how this may happen.
Please take a look to the mentioned bugs in the linked answer above and
make real actions to fix these problems. Scilab is completely broken in
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (so without real actions it will be broken until 2023) and
does not work on development version 18.10 too. Also it does not work on
Debian 10. Please contact Debian and/or Ubuntu maintainers directly.

Scilab is very often used in educational purposes. For example we use it on
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS in our university to teach students.
It will be very bad if we lose such a convenient and useful software-tool.

---

*With best regards,Ph.D., *


*associate professor at MPEI
,IEEE member,maintainer of
Mathieu functions toolbox for Scilab
,Nikolay Strelkov.*

2018-07-25 15:44 GMT+03:00 Claus Futtrup :

> Hi there
>
> I've installed Linux Mint 19 (MATE) and installing Scilab using the
> Software Manager doesn't work. I cannot get the GUI to show up (CLI works
> fine). There are several bug reports out there, but AFAIK no remedy. P.S.
> Upon first installation I did check and see that the GUI worked, but it
> never worked since and uninstalling + installing (incl. the CLI, and BTW
> also including reboots) doesn't work.
>
> Therefore I decided to download the Linux 64-bit package from scilab.org
> ... when unpacked, I see there's not an installer ... but as the README
> says, launching ./bin/scilab gives me the GUI (yaayh!)
>
> The question is - from unpacking the software, how am I supposed to
> install this already compiled scilab in my Linux? ... Am I supposed to
> leave it in my /home directory? ... Sorry for my lack of knowledge here. I
> hope for some kind help.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Claus
>
>
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[Scilab-users] Installing Scilab under Linux (Mint / aka Ubuntu)

2018-07-25 Thread Claus Futtrup

Hi there

I've installed Linux Mint 19 (MATE) and installing Scilab using the 
Software Manager doesn't work. I cannot get the GUI to show up (CLI 
works fine). There are several bug reports out there, but AFAIK no 
remedy. P.S. Upon first installation I did check and see that the GUI 
worked, but it never worked since and uninstalling + installing (incl. 
the CLI, and BTW also including reboots) doesn't work.


Therefore I decided to download the Linux 64-bit package from scilab.org 
... when unpacked, I see there's not an installer ... but as the README 
says, launching ./bin/scilab gives me the GUI (yaayh!)


The question is - from unpacking the software, how am I supposed to 
install this already compiled scilab in my Linux? ... Am I supposed to 
leave it in my /home directory? ... Sorry for my lack of knowledge here. 
I hope for some kind help.


Best regards,

Claus


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