RE: Problem when web app is built via Maven

2011-05-18 Thread Jamshed Katta
Hey Curtis,

Thanks for your reply.

I used Beyond Compare, and found out that there is s difference between the
war generated by the normal method and the war generated via maven (The war
generated in the first case works.) 
The war that maven generates has just 2 folders WEB-INF and META-INF and no
traces of JSPs whatsoever javascript etc, it only has class files. while the
normal build has all the files (JSPs ) and folders. Whats happening ?


Warm Regards,
Jamshed 

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Antwort: maven assembly plugin - chmod question

2011-05-18 Thread Thorsten Heit
Hi,

 My assembly looks like:
 
 assembly
 idjar-with-dependencies/id
 formats
 formatzip/format
 /formats
 includeBaseDirectoryfalse/includeBaseDirectory
 dependencySets
 dependencySet
 unpackfalse/unpack
 scoperuntime/scope
 outputDirectorylib/outputDirectory
 useProjectArtifacttrue/useProjectArtifact
 fileMode755/fileMode
 /dependencySet
 /dependencySets
 files
 file
 
 
source${project.build.directory}/${project.build.finalName}.jar/source
 /file
 /files
 /assembly
 
 
 
 So the fileMode works on the sub-elements. Each item in my LIB director
 gets a 755 CHMOD. But the actual LIB folder itself stays 777. Is there a
 way to make the LIB folder also get a 755?

What about directoryMode755/directoryMode at the same hierarchy level 
as fileMode?

See http://maven.apache.org/xsd/assembly-1.1.2.xsd


Regards

Thorsten

Re: overriding properties via -D

2011-05-18 Thread Maxime Gréau
Hi,

To be sure that properties are correctly overridden, you can use
maven-help-plugin with the goal effective-pom, like this :

1) mvn help:effective-pom  -Doutput=pom-default.xml
2) mvn help:effective-pom -Dfoo=bar -Doutput=pom-override.xml
3) mvn help:effective-pom -P profil -Dfoo=bar
-Doutput=pom-profil-override.xml
4) mvn help:effective-pom -P profil -Doutput=pom-profil.xml

Then compare the foo properties in this files.

Regards.

Maxime Gréau.
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2011/5/17 EJ Ciramella ecirame...@casenetinc.com

 For what it's worth, I've stumbled across a series of bugs surrounding this
 issue.

 This one either duplicates or is duplicated:

 http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-1992


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 To: users@maven.apache.org
 Subject: overriding properties via -D

 Hi all -

 I've googled around and searched the mailing lists as I think this is a
 pretty simple thing to do, but didn't find a clear answer.

 If there is a profile that has a properties stanza in it and in turn is
 setting a property, are you not allowed to override that setting via a
 -Dfoo=bar commandline option?

 There are a couple of places where instead of defining a whole new profiles
 with just the value I'd like to change is inefficient.



 
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Re: Problem when web app is built via Maven

2011-05-18 Thread Rafael Vanderlei
Make sure your web components (like jsps, js, css, images, etc) are under
src/main/webapp folder.
If you're not using the standard folder, you may try to configure maven war
plugin to inform the folder you are using. Check [1] to understande how to
configure it (it's the warSourceDirectory tag).

[1] http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-war-plugin/war-mojo.html

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Jamshed Katta jamshed.ka...@wwindia.comwrote:

 Hey Curtis,

 Thanks for your reply.

 I used Beyond Compare, and found out that there is s difference between the
 war generated by the normal method and the war generated via maven (The war
 generated in the first case works.)
 The war that maven generates has just 2 folders WEB-INF and META-INF and no
 traces of JSPs whatsoever javascript etc, it only has class files. while
 the
 normal build has all the files (JSPs ) and folders. Whats happening ?


 Warm Regards,
 Jamshed

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Re: [REPOST] Can I avoid a dependency cycle with one edge being a test dependency?

2011-05-18 Thread Gabriele Kahlout
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote:

 At very least, a polite request to look at the SO question,


Oh I'm so sorry you didn't like my post. I could have certainly copy-pasted
the question details in here, it's just that I'm so adverse to code
duplication and so preferred to use the pointer. Would pointer + polite
request be okay?

Of course, I'm not trying to divert traffic to SO and expect an answer on
the mailing list (and would add a pointer to it in SO). It's just that those
active there too could prefer to answer there, and I just multiply my
chances of getting my answer.



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 accompanied by leaving off the incomprehensible anti-spam math?


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Re: Help with multiple executions

2011-05-18 Thread Greg Akins
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd use war overlays... executions will not do what you think it will do


From what I just read, it looks like war overlays are made to merge
two WAR, or ZIP, files.

In this case, would it make sense to use a ZIP file with a directory
structure like

 |-- WEB-INF
  |- lib
   '--- activation-1.1.1.jar
   '--- mail-1.4.1.jar


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Re: Help with multiple executions

2011-05-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
multi-module project

module a is the war for WL (the one without the extra files)

module b is the war with the extra files needed for tomcat and it depends on
module a

you test in TC with module b and deploy module a to WL.

if I have things the wrong way around then you test with module a and deploy
module b to WL

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 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Stephen Connolly
 stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd use war overlays... executions will not do what you think it will do
 

 From what I just read, it looks like war overlays are made to merge
 two WAR, or ZIP, files.

 In this case, would it make sense to use a ZIP file with a directory
 structure like

  |-- WEB-INF
  |- lib
   '--- activation-1.1.1.jar
   '--- mail-1.4.1.jar


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Re: Help with multiple executions

2011-05-18 Thread Greg Akins
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
 multi-module project
 module a is the war for WL (the one without the extra files)
 module b is the war with the extra files needed for tomcat and it depends on
 module a
 you test in TC with module b and deploy module a to WL.

That's exactly what I need.  Thanks!

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Assembly Advice

2011-05-18 Thread Eric Kolotyluk
I have a maven project with several modules. In order to create some 
uber jars I use the assembly plug-in during the package phase. However, 
the modules with uber jars depend on other modules, which I have set up 
dependencies for.


The problem I am having is that those modules that are depended on are 
not archived until the install phase, so when the assembly plug-in is 
run, it will pick up state artifacts from the other modules.


Is there some way for me to configure things so that before the assembly 
plug-in is run, it forces all dependent modules to be run with the 
install target first?


Or is it more common practice to do assembly in the install phase? How 
can I guarantee that modules I depend on are installed first?


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Re: Assembly Advice

2011-05-18 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise
Hi,

you have to define dependencies in your assembly module to the other modules
...than maven will handle the correct order 

I assume you have a structure like this.

 +-- pom.xml
 !
 +--- mod1
 +--- mod2
 +--- mod3
 +--- mod-ass
  +--- pom.xml (dependencies to mod1, mod2 and mod3)

Kind regards
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How do I add filtered properties to my pom.xml?

2011-05-18 Thread trant
I use the following setup to have maven inject filtered property values into
my application configuration files, such as the Spring
applicationContext.xml:

File System:
src/main/filters/filter-test.properties
src/main/filters/filter-live.properties
src/main/resources/applicationContext.xml

and in my pom.xml I do this:

// use profiles to setup env property value as either test or live
...
  build
filters
  filter${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-${env}.properties/filter
/filters
resources
  resource
directorysrc/main/resources/directory
filteringtrue/filtering
  /resource
  /build

Now this works fine, but I would like to have my filter property files also
have properties entered into my pom.xml itself.

For example, later in my pom.xml I use a weblogic deployment plugin which
deploys my war to the server. This of course requires properties which are
environment specific. I wish I could have these properties in my separate
filter-env.properties files as well, because right now the only thing I
seem to get working is if I set these properties within my profiles setup. I
dont want it in the pom.xml though, I want maven to load them from my
environment specific property file.

Is there any way I can do this?

So that when I configure my weblogic plugin with for example:
  adminServerHostName${weblogic.host.name}/adminServerHostName

And I ran the pom.xml with my test profile activated, then maven should
pull the value of that property from my filter-test.properties file:
weblogic.host.name=testserver

or whatever.

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Re: Assembly Advice

2011-05-18 Thread Eric Kolotyluk

My current structure is

 +-- pom.xml
 !
 +--- mod1
 +--- mod2 needs an assembly and depends on mod1  mod3
 +--- mod3
 +--- mod4 needs an assembly and depends on mod1  mod3

Are you saying I need to define something like

 +-- pom.xml
 !
 +--- mod1
 +--- mod2
 +--- mod3
 +--- mod4
 +--- mod-ass2
 +--- pom.xml (dependencies to mod1, mod2 and mod3)
 +--- mod-ass4
 +--- pom.xml (dependencies to mod1, mod3 and mod4)

How will that ensure that mod1, mod2, mod3, mod4 will pass through the install 
phase, before mod-ass2 and mod-ass4 pass through the package phase.?

Cheers, Eric




On 2011-05-18 7:42 AM, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:

Hi,

you have to define dependencies in your assembly module to the other modules
...than maven will handle the correct order 

I assume you have a structure like this.

  +-- pom.xml
  !
  +--- mod1
  +--- mod2
  +--- mod3
  +--- mod-ass
   +--- pom.xml (dependencies to mod1, mod2 and mod3)

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

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Re: why I love the maven-dependency plugin

2011-05-18 Thread Brian Fox
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Russ Tremain ru...@releasetools.org wrote:
 I use the maven-dependency plugin for jar and war packaging.

 It is flexible and non-judgmental.

 This is particularly important when you are converting a large project over
 to maven and cannot follow some maven conventions - you may be constrained
 to recreate identical or near-identical artifacts using maven.

 Here is a pattern that works for wars:

 1)  create a war-resource jar that has all libs and resources pre-configured
 for dumping to WEB-INF.  You can use the dependency plugin to create the
 exact names you need to match the project you are converting.  For example,
 you may need to change the name of an artifact.  Or you may need to
 eliminate version numbers in the names of the artifacts.

 The maven-dependency plugin can do it all.  You can use multiple executions
 to sweep in artifacts - perhaps one with version names, one without, and
 then explicit renaming of any remaining artifacts.

 Use antrun to do any additional processing - e.g. to copy or rename a
 resource.  (The standard maven resources plugin will not do this for you).

 2)  In the war project, which automatically uses the maven-war plugin, just
 unpack your resource jar using the maven-dependency plugin unpack goal.  Do
 not declare any dependencies in the war pom, as they will get automatically
 copied without possibility for intervention.

 The unpack specification can be declared in a parent pom, which makes your
 war packaging project very small.
 For example, in the parent pom:

    build
        plugins
            plugin
                artifactIdmaven-dependency-plugin/artifactId
                executions
                    execution
                        id${project.artifactId}-unpack-war-resources/id
                        phaseprocess-resources/phase
                        goalsgoalunpack/goal/goals
                        configuration
                            artifactItems
                                artifactItem
                                    groupIdcom.foo/groupId

 artifactId${project.artifactId}-resources/artifactId
                                    version${someVersion}/version

 outputDirectory${project.build.directory}/${project.build.finalName}/outputDirectory
                                /artifactItem
                            /artifactItems
                        /configuration
                    /execution
                    ...

 The only trick is to use a standard name for the associated resource jar
 (${project.artifactId}-resources in this example).

 The war pom is now trivial, for example:

 project
    parent
        artifactIdbuild-common-webapps/artifactId
        groupIdcom.foo/groupId
        version1.0/version
        relativePath../../../build-common/webapps/relativePath
    /parent
    modelVersion4.0.0/modelVersion
    groupIdcom.foo/groupId
    artifactIdmywebapp/artifactId
    packagingwar/packaging
    version${someVersion}/version
 /project


 3)  create separate projects for compiling the war code, jsps, or any other
 work.  These projects are then added to the resource package (as jars, or
 unpacked as classes, or whatever you need).

 4)  wire the projects together using a multi-project pom, creating
 sub-directories for the auxiliary packaging and build poms.

 Some advocate the use of the assembly plugin for doing this sort of work,
 but I prefer the simplicity of the dependency plugin approach, reserving the
 assembly plugin for producing final distribution bundles.


Heh, that's the original use case I had when I started the plugin.
Mostly I didn't want to have to have key configuration of some
manipulations external to my pom in an assembly.xml. Glad you like the
plugin ;-)


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Re: How do I add filtered properties to my pom.xml?

2011-05-18 Thread Rafael Vanderlei
I believe it would work if you changed a little bit the way you configure
the filters... you could have a profile for each filter you want to use
(instead of using the ${env} property to determine the filter you will
use).. so it would be something like:

profile
   idenv.test/id
   activation
  property
 nameenv/name
 valuetest/value
  /property
   /activation
   build
  fillters
 filter${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-test.properties/filter
  /filters
   /build
/profile
profile
   idenv.live/id
   activation
  property
 nameenv/name
 valuelive/value
  /property
   /activation
   build
  fillters
 filter${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-live.properties/filter
  /filters
   /build
/profile


This way, when ${env} is evaluated to test, the env.test profile will be
activated and properties defined in
${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-test.properties will be available. While
when ${env} is evaluated to live, the env.live profile will be activated
and properties defined in ${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-live.properties
will be available.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:14 PM, trant mmo...@webatrocity.com wrote:

 I use the following setup to have maven inject filtered property values
 into
 my application configuration files, such as the Spring
 applicationContext.xml:

 File System:
 src/main/filters/filter-test.properties
 src/main/filters/filter-live.properties
 src/main/resources/applicationContext.xml

 and in my pom.xml I do this:

 // use profiles to setup env property value as either test or live
 ...
  build
filters
  filter${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-${env}.properties/filter
/filters
resources
  resource
directorysrc/main/resources/directory
filteringtrue/filtering
  /resource
  /build

 Now this works fine, but I would like to have my filter property files also
 have properties entered into my pom.xml itself.

 For example, later in my pom.xml I use a weblogic deployment plugin which
 deploys my war to the server. This of course requires properties which are
 environment specific. I wish I could have these properties in my separate
 filter-env.properties files as well, because right now the only thing I
 seem to get working is if I set these properties within my profiles setup.
 I
 dont want it in the pom.xml though, I want maven to load them from my
 environment specific property file.

 Is there any way I can do this?

 So that when I configure my weblogic plugin with for example:
  adminServerHostName${weblogic.host.name}/adminServerHostName

 And I ran the pom.xml with my test profile activated, then maven should
 pull the value of that property from my filter-test.properties file:
 weblogic.host.name=testserver

 or whatever.

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How to run tests in jetty

2011-05-18 Thread Victor Grazi
Hi - I am wondering if there is any way to tell maven 3 to launch jetty and
then execute some unit testers, and finally tear down jetty?

What is the best way to do this?

Thanks Victor


RE: How to run tests in jetty

2011-05-18 Thread Yanko, Curtis
Google around, there are some recent articles about this using stuff
like Failsafe and hooking into the Verify phase of the build lifecycle



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 Hi - I am wondering if there is any way to tell maven 3 to 
 launch jetty and then execute some unit testers, and finally 
 tear down jetty?
 
 What is the best way to do this?
 
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RE: How do I add filtered properties to my pom.xml?

2011-05-18 Thread Martin Gainty

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 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:14:19 -0700
 From: mmo...@webatrocity.com
 To: users@maven.apache.org
 Subject: How do I add filtered properties to my pom.xml?
 
 I use the following setup to have maven inject filtered property values into
 my application configuration files, such as the Spring
 applicationContext.xml:
 
 File System:
 src/main/filters/filter-test.properties
 src/main/filters/filter-live.properties
 src/main/resources/applicationContext.xml
 
 and in my pom.xml I do this:
 
 // use profiles to setup env property value as either test or live
 ...
   build
 filters
   filter${basedir}/src/main/filters/filter-${env}.properties/filter
 /filters
 resources
   resource
 directorysrc/main/resources/directory
 filteringtrue/filtering
   /resource
   /build
 
 Now this works fine, but I would like to have my filter property files also
 have properties entered into my pom.xml itself.
 
 For example, later in my pom.xml I use a weblogic deployment plugin which
 deploys my war to the server. This of course requires properties which are
 environment specific. I wish I could have these properties in my separate
 filter-env.properties files as well, because right now the only thing I
 seem to get working is if I set these properties within my profiles setup. I
 dont want it in the pom.xml though, I want maven to load them from my
 environment specific property file.
 
 Is there any way I can do this?
 
 So that when I configure my weblogic plugin with for example:
   adminServerHostName${weblogic.host.name}/adminServerHostName
 
 And I ran the pom.xml with my test profile activated, then maven should
 pull the value of that property from my filter-test.properties file:
 weblogic.host.name=testserver
 
 or whatever.
 
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Re: How to run tests in jetty

2011-05-18 Thread Greg Akins
I'm not using Maven3, but am not sure that would change much.

I use Cargo to start the server and run functional tests.  The tests
run in Tomcat, but could run in any container that Cargo supports.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Yanko, Curtis curt_ya...@uhc.com wrote:
 Google around, there are some recent articles about this using stuff
 like Failsafe and hooking into the Verify phase of the build lifecycle

 

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 Hi - I am wondering if there is any way to tell maven 3 to
 launch jetty and then execute some unit testers, and finally
 tear down jetty?

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RE: How do I add filtered properties to my pom.xml?

2011-05-18 Thread trant
Martin,

Thank you for that link. 

It works!

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Re: exclusions from a typetest-jar/type dependency in maven 3

2011-05-18 Thread Anders Hammar
I the exact same project shows a difference between Maven 2.2.1 and Maven
3.0.3, you should create a jira ticket about a regression.

/Anders

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:01, Garrett Wu wugarr...@gmail.com wrote:

 When upgrading to maven 3.0.3, I noticed that exclusions are not really
 excluded from dependencies with typetest-jar/type.  Is this intended
 behavior?  If so, I how should I achieve the same effect as maven2?

 I have a project maven-test-jar that has a compile scope dependency on
 org.apache.hadoop:avro:1.3.1.

  groupIdcom.foocorp.maven/groupId
  artifactIdmaven-test-jar/artifactId
  !-- ... --
  dependencies
dependency
  groupIdorg.apache.hadoop/groupId
  artifactIdavro/artifactId
  version1.3.1/version
  scopecompile/scope
/dependency
  /dependencies

 I have another project that depends on maven-test-jar's tests, and I would
 like to use org.apache.avro:avro:1.4.1 instead of
 org.apache.hadoop:avro:1.3.1.

  !-- ... --
  dependencies
dependency
  groupIdcom.foocorp.maven/groupId
  artifactIdmaven-test-jar/artifactId
  version1.0-SNAPSHOT/version
  scopetest/scope
  typetest-jar/type
  exclusions
exclusion
  groupIdorg.apache.hadoop/groupId
  artifactIdavro/artifactId
/exclusion
  /exclusions
/dependency
dependency
  groupIdorg.apache.avro/groupId
  artifactIdavro/artifactId
  version1.4.1/version
  scopecompile/scope
/dependency
  /dependencies

 However, a dependency:list shows that it still uses
 org.apache.hadoop:avro:1.3.1 for the test scope:

 $ mvn dependency:list
 ...
 [INFO]org.apache.avro:avro:jar:1.4.1:compile
 [INFO]org.apache.hadoop:avro:jar:1.3.1:test
 ...

 In maven 2, org.apache.hadoop:avro:jar:1.3.1:test is omitted as I would
 expect.

 Thanks,
 Garrett



Multiple webapps - running individually

2011-05-18 Thread lukel99
Hello all,

I've got a project I'm working on right now where we have a main maven
project that contains 3 modules. The core module contains all of the
business services, DAOs, etc., and two webapp modules being built on top of
core (basically skinning, some different functionality). Each of the webapps
are dependent on core.

The problem is I cannot figure out how to deploy the projects individually.
If I run package, it will package both of the webapp projects into wars in
their target directory; however if I try to use the tomcat plugin, it will
only deploy one, no matter what is in each individual pom (I think the
tomcat plugin blocks maven's execution while tomcat runs).

Does anyone have a solution to run one webapp or the other selectively in
tomcat locally?

Thanks,

Luke

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Re: How to run tests in jetty

2011-05-18 Thread Tim Pizey
On 18 May 2011 18:19, Victor Grazi  wrote:
 Hi - I am wondering if there is any way to tell maven 3 to launch jetty and
 then execute some unit testers, and finally tear down jetty?

 What is the best way to do this?

http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Maven+Jetty+Plugin
Automatic execution of the plugin

cheers
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Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Heck, Gus (Patrick)
Hi Folks,

The list archives return hundreds or thousands of not very relevant
results when I search them, so this may have been answered, but I can't
find it. In any case, I'm also somewhat new to maven so I'm possibly
asking silly questions for that reason too. In either case I apologize
in advance...

I've got a project, that is derived from another project that was set up
with maven (else, I'd probably still be using ant). In our company, our
policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
anywhere it feels like on the web. To this end, I'm testing out the free
version of artifactory, which looks like a nice solution to that
problem. I've managed to get my maven pointed at artifactory, and wiped
out my local repository. I also deleted artifactory's references to the
outside world. Now my builds complain that I can't find stuff, and the
messages are clearly looking at my artifactory. Perfect so far.

However, as pleased as I am to have broken my build, now I need to get
it going again :-). My first challenge seems to be getting the basic
maven plugins into the repository. I can't seem to find a place to
download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I tried
to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and see
if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
that a reasonable idea?)

Unfortunately, as soon as I did 

svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
4.1 maven-clean-plugin
cd maven-clean-plugin
mvn deploy

I got 

[INFO] Scanning for projects...
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
e/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
he/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
[ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
[ERROR]   
[ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-clean-plugin:2.4.1
(C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-clean-plugin\pom.xml) has 1
error
[ERROR] Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:18 in central
(http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 25, column 11 -
[Help 2]
[ERROR] 
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
-e switch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR] 
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
please read the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
n
[ERROR] [Help 2]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
ion
bash-4.1$

So I went and looked at the subversion repository and I found
maven-plugins-18, but when I tried to build that I got..

[INFO] Scanning for projects...
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
e/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
he/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
[ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
[ERROR]   
[ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:18
(C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-plugins\pom.xml) has 1 error
[ERROR] Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
org.apache.maven:maven-parent:pom:16 in central
(http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 23, column 11 -
[Help 2]
[ERROR] 
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
-e switch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR] 
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
please read the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
n
[ERROR] [Help 2]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
ion

When I look in subversion, I don't see a maven-parent... 

So, now I don't see any clear path to walk up to wherever the root of
this is...

What is the best way to get fresh clean maven plugins for installation
into a repository manager without allowing it to just go download
whatever it wants from the web?

-Gus



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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Brian Fox
You don't need to bootsrap it, just setup a repo like Nexus and let it
proxy on demand the things you need. In that case a bootstrap might
simply mean run all our builds and/or run mvn dependency:go-offline to
resolve everything you need.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 The list archives return hundreds or thousands of not very relevant
 results when I search them, so this may have been answered, but I can't
 find it. In any case, I'm also somewhat new to maven so I'm possibly
 asking silly questions for that reason too. In either case I apologize
 in advance...

 I've got a project, that is derived from another project that was set up
 with maven (else, I'd probably still be using ant). In our company, our
 policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
 the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
 anywhere it feels like on the web. To this end, I'm testing out the free
 version of artifactory, which looks like a nice solution to that
 problem. I've managed to get my maven pointed at artifactory, and wiped
 out my local repository. I also deleted artifactory's references to the
 outside world. Now my builds complain that I can't find stuff, and the
 messages are clearly looking at my artifactory. Perfect so far.

 However, as pleased as I am to have broken my build, now I need to get
 it going again :-). My first challenge seems to be getting the basic
 maven plugins into the repository. I can't seem to find a place to
 download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I tried
 to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and see
 if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
 that a reasonable idea?)

 Unfortunately, as soon as I did

 svn checkout
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
 4.1 maven-clean-plugin
 cd maven-clean-plugin
 mvn deploy

 I got

 [INFO] Scanning for projects...
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
 e/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
 he/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
 [ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-clean-plugin:2.4.1
 (C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-clean-plugin\pom.xml) has 1
 error
 [ERROR]     Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
 org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:18 in central
 (http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
 'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 25, column 11 -
 [Help 2]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
 -e switch.
 [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
 please read the following articles:
 [ERROR] [Help 1]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
 n
 [ERROR] [Help 2]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
 ion
 bash-4.1$

 So I went and looked at the subversion repository and I found
 maven-plugins-18, but when I tried to build that I got..

 [INFO] Scanning for projects...
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
 e/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
 he/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
 [ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:18
 (C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-plugins\pom.xml) has 1 error
 [ERROR]     Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
 org.apache.maven:maven-parent:pom:16 in central
 (http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
 'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 23, column 11 -
 [Help 2]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
 -e switch.
 [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
 please read the following articles:
 [ERROR] [Help 1]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
 n
 [ERROR] [Help 2]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
 ion

 When I look in subversion, I don't see a maven-parent...

 So, now I don't see any clear path to walk up to wherever the root of
 this is...

 What is the best way to get fresh clean maven plugins for installation
 into a repository manager without allowing it to just go download
 whatever it wants from the web?

 -Gus



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Re: central repo?

2011-05-18 Thread Brian Fox
I just wanted to close the loop on this, http://search.maven.org is
now updated incrementally in lockstep with the contents of Central.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Brian Fox bri...@infinity.nu wrote:
 On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:54 AM, Nord, James jn...@nds.com wrote:
 Hi Brian,

 we incorporate the feedback we received and ensure the index used to render 
 the browse is completely in lockstep with the contents.

 Interesting...  Are all the mirrors updated atomically with repo1 (I didn't 
 think they where) so the engineering effort in this must be huge :-)

 I won't go and say it's completely atomic but here's what happens:

 All of the inbound syncs run on a staging machine. Some repos are
 pulled hourly (forges), others daily. Once this process is complete,
 the updated contents are indexed and then the staging location is
 pushed out simultaneously to the UK, the live Central machine, and a
 US production failover folder on the staging machine. We will push the
 indexes at the same time to the search server so the window between
 contents arriving on Central and appearing on Search is minimal.


 Just don't want it forgotten that just as it is in repo1.m.o it may not be 
 in uk.m.o  (and if it is in the process of being synced could be only be 
 partially there?)

 Thanks for the quick workaround.

 /James

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Fox [mailto:bri...@infinity.nu]
 Sent: 05 May 2011 17:53
 To: Maven Users List
 Subject: Re: central repo?

 Than you, i'll let the team know.
 http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/org/
 Also, we've adjusted how the redirects work and included a static page so 
 people don't feel like the repo was hijacked:

 Deeper links to artifact folders will show the older index view for now 
 until we incorporate the feedback we received and ensure the index used to 
 render the browse is completely in lockstep with the contents.

 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jim McCaskey jim.mccas...@pervasive.com 
 wrote:
 So, I'm not sure anyone here will care about this.  But Maven Central does 
 not work with IE9.

 You get an error like this:

 When a website causes a failure or crash, Internet Explorer attempts to 
 restore the site. It stops after two tries to avoid an endless loop.

 And the URL switches to this:

 res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#maven.org,http://search.maven.org/#bro
 wse

 I had a friend try his system with IE8 and it worked fine.  Needless to say 
 Chrome and FF work just fine.

 -Jim

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian Fox [mailto:bri...@infinity.nu]
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:50 AM
 To: Maven Users List
 Subject: Re: central repo?

 On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Anders Hammar and...@hammar.net wrote:
 Regarding the m2e indexes, at what time are they updated?

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RE: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Heck, Gus (Patrick)
Hi Brian,

I think you missed the entire point of the exercise. The point is to NOT allow 
it to pull from outside sources, as a proxy or not. The intent is to load it up 
manually and never ever let it fetch serve any dependency or plugin I haven't 
personally uploaded, and intentionally provided for use. This relates to a 
coming set of network access restrictions as well as overseas developers not 
accidentally downloading export controlled, or locally illegal software.

Also, you will note that I am currently working with artifactory.

-Gus

-Original Message-
From: Brian Fox [mailto:bri...@infinity.nu] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:26 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

You don't need to bootsrap it, just setup a repo like Nexus and let it
proxy on demand the things you need. In that case a bootstrap might
simply mean run all our builds and/or run mvn dependency:go-offline to
resolve everything you need.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 The list archives return hundreds or thousands of not very relevant
 results when I search them, so this may have been answered, but I can't
 find it. In any case, I'm also somewhat new to maven so I'm possibly
 asking silly questions for that reason too. In either case I apologize
 in advance...

 I've got a project, that is derived from another project that was set up
 with maven (else, I'd probably still be using ant). In our company, our
 policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
 the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
 anywhere it feels like on the web. To this end, I'm testing out the free
 version of artifactory, which looks like a nice solution to that
 problem. I've managed to get my maven pointed at artifactory, and wiped
 out my local repository. I also deleted artifactory's references to the
 outside world. Now my builds complain that I can't find stuff, and the
 messages are clearly looking at my artifactory. Perfect so far.

 However, as pleased as I am to have broken my build, now I need to get
 it going again :-). My first challenge seems to be getting the basic
 maven plugins into the repository. I can't seem to find a place to
 download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I tried
 to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and see
 if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
 that a reasonable idea?)

 Unfortunately, as soon as I did

 svn checkout
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
 4.1 maven-clean-plugin
 cd maven-clean-plugin
 mvn deploy

 I got

 [INFO] Scanning for projects...
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
 e/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
 he/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
 [ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-clean-plugin:2.4.1
 (C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-clean-plugin\pom.xml) has 1
 error
 [ERROR]     Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
 org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:18 in central
 (http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
 'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 25, column 11 -
 [Help 2]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
 -e switch.
 [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
 please read the following articles:
 [ERROR] [Help 1]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
 n
 [ERROR] [Help 2]
 http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
 ion
 bash-4.1$

 So I went and looked at the subversion repository and I found
 maven-plugins-18, but when I tried to build that I got..

 [INFO] Scanning for projects...
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
 e/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
 Downloading:
 http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
 he/maven/maven-parent/16/maven-parent-16.pom
 [ERROR] The build could not read 1 project - [Help 1]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:18
 (C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-plugins\pom.xml) has 1 error
 [ERROR]     Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
 org.apache.maven:maven-parent:pom:16 in central
 (http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
 'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 23, column 11 -
 [Help 2]
 [ERROR]
 [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
 -e switch.
 

Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Ansgar Konermann
Am 18.05.2011 23:21, schrieb Heck, Gus (Patrick):
 In our company, our
 policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
 the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
 anywhere it feels like on the web.
In a network allowed to access the outside world:
- clean out your local repository (rm -rf ~/.m2/repository)
- run your build
- review what's inside your local repository and decide whether that's
okay according to your policies

The other way round (upload everything which is needed manually)
completely thwarts the idea of automatic dependency management. To make
it short: this is probably a dead end.

The approach you outlined would mean to download and build from source
each and every project your build is depending upon. Unless you are a
world-class-superhero-build-and-release-manager with a lot of spare
time, or your project has only a tiny set of (transitive) dependencies,
this probably won't work. I doubt one person can accrue the knowledge
required to build all these software modules which get deployed to the
central maven repository in a reasonable time. If you don't believe, run
mvn dependency:tree on your project, this will give you the dependency
tree for compile-time dependencies. Add to this the test-dependencies
needed to execute the tests of your compile-time dependencies which
happens before packaging (i. e. you won't get a JAR if the tests don't
run). If this is not enough to stop you from pursuing your initial
approach, add all the maven plugins which make up your build system, and
their dependencies.

Best regards

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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com wrote:
 I can't seem to find a place to
 download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I tried
 to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and see
 if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
 that a reasonable idea?)

That would be:  http://repo1.maven.org/maven2

However it is not going to be fun to find each thing you need and
upload it to your internal repository manager.  (I work with a company
that does it this way.)  Especially for plugins.  Is there any middle
ground?  Let the repository manager proxy into a segregated directory,
vet everything in there and then move it to the pristine internal
repo?

 Unfortunately, as soon as I did

 svn checkout
 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
 4.1 maven-clean-plugin
 cd maven-clean-plugin
 mvn deploy

Hmm... first, do you *really* have a requirement to build everything
from source?

-- 
Wendy

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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Ansgar Konermann
Am 18.05.2011 23:36, schrieb Heck, Gus (Patrick):
 This relates to a coming set of network access restrictions as well as 
 overseas developers not accidentally downloading export controlled, or 
 locally illegal software.
Hi,

regarding the overseas developers: try a repository manager with decent
support for access control. I know that Sonatype Nexus does support
quite fine-grained control over who can access which artifacts. You
could have two roles for your developers, one which is allowed to
download export-controlled artifacts, the other one is not.

You would have to instruct your developers how to set up their maven
settings.xml, so that maven knows which login credentials to present to
the repository manager.

Best regards

Ansgar



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RE: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Heck, Gus (Patrick)
Hi Wendy,

I don't have a requirement to build from source, but in the case of the
maven plugins, nowhere on the web seems to point to a place where I can
download the finished product (aside from letting maven find it, and who
knows what other dependencies). I am adverse to letting maven just pull
things because then I have a very long list of items to check and verify
arranged in a tree, and it's all too easy to miss a subtree and think
I've got everything covered. Basically the problem is I make a really
crappy computer when it comes to tree-traversals and not losing my place
when someone comes over to chat, I go to lunch, or I have to go home at
the end of the day. :-) I don't want to trust that I won't make a
mistake, I'd rather take a bit more time and let the build system ensure
that I didn't miss anything.

If I act as gatekeeper, I know that the project won't build properly
until I've applied each dependency required to build the project. (and
then same for test... etc). This shouldn't be any more burdensome than
finding the transitive dependencies for a good sized ant project, which
I've done many times before, except that maven plug-in folks seem to
squirrel their stuff away where only maven can find it, so I'm having
trouble getting maven working to start with.

-Gus 

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:wsm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:35 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com wrote:
 I can't seem to find a place to
 download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I
tried
 to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and
see
 if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
 that a reasonable idea?)

That would be:  http://repo1.maven.org/maven2

However it is not going to be fun to find each thing you need and
upload it to your internal repository manager.  (I work with a company
that does it this way.)  Especially for plugins.  Is there any middle
ground?  Let the repository manager proxy into a segregated directory,
vet everything in there and then move it to the pristine internal
repo?

 Unfortunately, as soon as I did

 svn checkout

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
 4.1 maven-clean-plugin
 cd maven-clean-plugin
 mvn deploy

Hmm... first, do you *really* have a requirement to build everything
from source?

-- 
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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Benson Margulies
Managing a maven build under these constraints is prohibitively
expensive for a small operation if you apply it to maven itself. The
thing you are building may have a modest enough dependency collection,
but maven itself? I think you are looking an an inventory in the
hundreds.

It's a gigantic undertaking. Hmm, maybe someone could make some money
selling 'trusted maven' -- a canned repo full of plugins and their
deps where the seller takes legal responsibility for license and
provenance :-)

Again, a question here is provenance versus license. Say that you
carefully set up an environment to load dependencies only from
central. You run a build. You use the available tools to load the
contents of your repo into a repo manager, and you tell everyone else
to configure maven to load from that and nowhere else. Now you have
provenance settled (if you trust central). Maven doesn't 'load things
from anywhere'. It loads things from where you tell it to load things
from. By default, that's central, period. Could a rogue developer
circumvent? Of course, on their local machine. Can they push unwanted
things into your repo? Not if you set the access control properly.

Next you have dependency licenses to worry about. Well, even if you
converted back to ant, you'd still have dependencies to worry about.
At least maven will make you a nice report of the licenses of the
dependencies as declared in the pom. With ant, you'd be googling away
tracking down the original sources and licenses of all the
dependencies. So I don't see how the maven-ness of this thing makes
your problem materially harder. It's a big problem either way.

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RE: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Heck, Gus (Patrick)
Ansgar,

I'm not new to building stuff, just new to maven. Unrolling transitive
dependencies is old hat for folks who grew up on ant :).  

It's more work, but in the end there's no question of what is or is not
in your project, and I want to be sure that I only pull the dependencies
I actually need, since I will likely wind up filling out an approval
form for each of them at some point.

Another concern of course is which FOS licenses are being depended upon.
Another facet of this is the need to provide a location that can be
scanned with a tool that detects GPL'd code, or other such problems. 

I don't understand your bit about test dependencies. I don't need to run
the tests for things I am using. The release engineers for those
projects presumably did that already. Note that the only reason I went
to the source for the plugin was I couldn't find a binary.

-Gus

-Original Message-
From: Ansgar Konermann [mailto:ansgar.konerm...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:34 PM
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

Am 18.05.2011 23:21, schrieb Heck, Gus (Patrick):
 In our company, our
 policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
 the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
 anywhere it feels like on the web.
In a network allowed to access the outside world:
- clean out your local repository (rm -rf ~/.m2/repository)
- run your build
- review what's inside your local repository and decide whether that's
okay according to your policies

The other way round (upload everything which is needed manually)
completely thwarts the idea of automatic dependency management. To make
it short: this is probably a dead end.

The approach you outlined would mean to download and build from source
each and every project your build is depending upon. Unless you are a
world-class-superhero-build-and-release-manager with a lot of spare
time, or your project has only a tiny set of (transitive) dependencies,
this probably won't work. I doubt one person can accrue the knowledge
required to build all these software modules which get deployed to the
central maven repository in a reasonable time. If you don't believe, run
mvn dependency:tree on your project, this will give you the dependency
tree for compile-time dependencies. Add to this the test-dependencies
needed to execute the tests of your compile-time dependencies which
happens before packaging (i. e. you won't get a JAR if the tests don't
run). If this is not enough to stop you from pursuing your initial
approach, add all the maven plugins which make up your build system, and
their dependencies.

Best regards

Ansgar


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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Ron Wheeler

1) Connect to the Internet,
2) Set up your repo to point to the external repos that you trust.
3) Load your repo by doing builds that you do not install or deploy.
4) Upload the 3rd party libraries that are not available from public 
Maven Repos - software with license restrictions

5) Disconnect from the internet
6) Delete any libraries that you want to disallow - can't imagine what 
these would be since you did put them in a POM for a reason.
7) Fix the poms that call up disallowed libraries to use different 
libraries.

8) Start building

We have done other things to restrict the libraries that users use. I 
have bored people to death here describing this approach so you can 
likely find it in the archives.


Ron


On 18/05/2011 5:36 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick) wrote:

Hi Brian,

I think you missed the entire point of the exercise. The point is to NOT allow 
it to pull from outside sources, as a proxy or not. The intent is to load it up 
manually and never ever let it fetch serve any dependency or plugin I haven't 
personally uploaded, and intentionally provided for use. This relates to a 
coming set of network access restrictions as well as overseas developers not 
accidentally downloading export controlled, or locally illegal software.

Also, you will note that I am currently working with artifactory.

-Gus

-Original Message-
From: Brian Fox [mailto:bri...@infinity.nu]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:26 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

You don't need to bootsrap it, just setup a repo like Nexus and let it
proxy on demand the things you need. In that case a bootstrap might
simply mean run all our builds and/or run mvn dependency:go-offline to
resolve everything you need.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com  wrote:

Hi Folks,

The list archives return hundreds or thousands of not very relevant
results when I search them, so this may have been answered, but I can't
find it. In any case, I'm also somewhat new to maven so I'm possibly
asking silly questions for that reason too. In either case I apologize
in advance...

I've got a project, that is derived from another project that was set up
with maven (else, I'd probably still be using ant). In our company, our
policies make it very important that I know exactly what is going into
the project, so I can't just let maven go slurping things up from
anywhere it feels like on the web. To this end, I'm testing out the free
version of artifactory, which looks like a nice solution to that
problem. I've managed to get my maven pointed at artifactory, and wiped
out my local repository. I also deleted artifactory's references to the
outside world. Now my builds complain that I can't find stuff, and the
messages are clearly looking at my artifactory. Perfect so far.

However, as pleased as I am to have broken my build, now I need to get
it going again :-). My first challenge seems to be getting the basic
maven plugins into the repository. I can't seem to find a place to
download something that I can upload directly to artifactory, so I tried
to start with the first plugin that was failing, and build that and see
if mvn deploy would deploy it to artifactory. (First, question... is
that a reasonable idea?)

Unfortunately, as soon as I did

svn checkout
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/tags/maven-clean-plugin-2.
4.1 maven-clean-plugin
cd maven-clean-plugin
mvn deploy

I got

[INFO] Scanning for projects...
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach
e/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-snapshot/org/apac
he/maven/plugins/maven-plugins/18/maven-plugins-18.pom
[ERROR] The build could not read 1 project -  [Help 1]
[ERROR]
[ERROR]   The project org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-clean-plugin:2.4.1
(C:\cygwin\home\gus\maven\plugins\maven-clean-plugin\pom.xml) has 1
error
[ERROR] Non-resolvable parent POM: Could not find artifact
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-plugins:pom:18 in central
(http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release) and
'parent.relativePath' points at wrong local POM @ line 25, column 11 -
[Help 2]
[ERROR]
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the
-e switch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR]
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions,
please read the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingExceptio
n
[ERROR] [Help 2]
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/UnresolvableModelExcept
ion
bash-4.1$

So I went and looked at the subversion repository and I found
maven-plugins-18, but when I tried to build that I got..

[INFO] Scanning for projects...
Downloading:
http://heckp2.corp.aspentech.com:8080/artifactory/libs-release/org/apach

RE: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Heck, Gus (Patrick)
As I explained in another response, I want the software to tell me when I've 
got enough stuff to build (much like test driven development), rather than 
trusting I covered everything post-hoc. As for doing it with ant projects, I've 
certainly been there. At one job I wrote a custom ant task that looked at /lib, 
a properties file and a directory called /licenses. If the jar in lib didn't 
have an entry in the properties file, or the value for that jar in the 
properties file didn't match the name of a file in /licenses, the build failed. 
Not really that hard to implement. As you say, the big time sink is in hunting 
down the licenses, but in the current job I have to do that anyway to include a 
copy of the license with the approval form for the lawyers... nothing maven can 
do about that. The only irritation is that some basic artifacts seem to be hard 
to find and instead of an answer such as the artifacts you need can be found 
here I get a chorus of don't do that 

By the way, I am a bit irritated that maven put's the repository information 
out on the developer's settings.xml. I'd much rather be able to manage that 
centrally, and not leave it as something that they could screw up, or forget to 
do after their hard drive fails and the set things up a second time. Is there a 
way to lock things into a single repository without settings.xml?

Malicious circumvention is of course a whole different topic, and would be 
impossible to prevent without an encrypted form of the pom anyway. 

-Gus

-Original Message-
From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:35 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

Managing a maven build under these constraints is prohibitively
expensive for a small operation if you apply it to maven itself. The
thing you are building may have a modest enough dependency collection,
but maven itself? I think you are looking an an inventory in the
hundreds.

It's a gigantic undertaking. Hmm, maybe someone could make some money
selling 'trusted maven' -- a canned repo full of plugins and their
deps where the seller takes legal responsibility for license and
provenance :-)

Again, a question here is provenance versus license. Say that you
carefully set up an environment to load dependencies only from
central. You run a build. You use the available tools to load the
contents of your repo into a repo manager, and you tell everyone else
to configure maven to load from that and nowhere else. Now you have
provenance settled (if you trust central). Maven doesn't 'load things
from anywhere'. It loads things from where you tell it to load things
from. By default, that's central, period. Could a rogue developer
circumvent? Of course, on their local machine. Can they push unwanted
things into your repo? Not if you set the access control properly.

Next you have dependency licenses to worry about. Well, even if you
converted back to ant, you'd still have dependencies to worry about.
At least maven will make you a nice report of the licenses of the
dependencies as declared in the pom. With ant, you'd be googling away
tracking down the original sources and licenses of all the
dependencies. So I don't see how the maven-ness of this thing makes
your problem materially harder. It's a big problem either way.

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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com wrote:
 As I explained in another response, I want the software to tell me when I've 
 got enough stuff to build (much like test driven development), rather than 
 trusting I covered everything post-hoc. As for doing it with ant projects, 
 I've certainly been there. At one job I wrote a custom ant task that looked 
 at /lib, a properties file and a directory called /licenses. If the jar in 
 lib didn't have an entry in the properties file, or the value for that jar in 
 the properties file didn't match the name of a file in /licenses, the build 
 failed. Not really that hard to implement. As you say, the big time sink is 
 in hunting down the licenses, but in the current job I have to do that anyway 
 to include a copy of the license with the approval form for the lawyers... 
 nothing maven can do about that. The only irritation is that some basic 
 artifacts seem to be hard to find and instead of an answer such as the 
 artifacts you need can be found here I get a chorus of don't do that

Hm?  I already told you where the things are.  In the central
repository.  (And you need both the jar and the pom for it to work.)

Typically the only organizations that can afford to be this paranoid
are really big ones.  I work with one of those.  The internal Maven
repo does not talk to the internet.  Instead, developers fill out a
web form to request a new artifact to be uploaded, someone approves it
if it's in the standards, or sends them off to the reference
architecture team to explain why they need it, and then someone else
presses the buttons in Archiva to upload it.

Plugins are a special case.  Those we handle within the build team, as
they typically want all kinds of dependencies.  So for those we
connect to the internet and use the Maven Assembly plugin to create a
repository bundle by listing the plugin as a dependency.  Maven goes
off and gets everything that plugin needs, and the whole bundle is
uploaded.  Those artifacts generally aren't going to get into your end
product, they are just used during the build.

 By the way, I am a bit irritated that maven put's the repository information 
 out on the developer's settings.xml. I'd much rather be able to manage that 
 centrally, and not leave it as something that they could screw up, or forget 
 to do after their hard drive fails and the set things up a second time. Is 
 there a way to lock things into a single repository without settings.xml?

That's where it's done, with a mirror in settings.xml.  You can create
your own Maven distribution with the settings.xml you want them to use
packaged inside it (in the /conf directory.)

I assume if you're this strict about dependencies, developers are not
downloading random software from the internet and installing it on
their machines, so provide the Maven distro you want them to use.

-- 
Wendy

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Re: Bootstraping a repository manager

2011-05-18 Thread Ron Wheeler
The other nice thing about Maven is that no matter what one is building 
or how unusual one thinks their environment is, someone has already 
built something similar and someone has already worked out a best 
practice in a similar environment.


It is also supported by a great forum where you get advice that you 
could not find or afford and it is free here.


Ron

On 18/05/2011 9:32 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Heck, Gus (Patrick)
gus.h...@aspentech.com  wrote:

As I explained in another response, I want the software to tell me when I've got enough stuff to 
build (much like test driven development), rather than trusting I covered everything post-hoc. As 
for doing it with ant projects, I've certainly been there. At one job I wrote a custom ant task 
that looked at /lib, a properties file and a directory called /licenses. If the jar in lib didn't 
have an entry in the properties file, or the value for that jar in the properties file didn't match 
the name of a file in /licenses, the build failed. Not really that hard to implement. As you say, 
the big time sink is in hunting down the licenses, but in the current job I have to do that anyway 
to include a copy of the license with the approval form for the lawyers... nothing maven can do 
about that. The only irritation is that some basic artifacts seem to be hard to find and instead of 
an answer such as the artifacts you need can be found here I get a chorus of 
don't do that

Hm?  I already told you where the things are.  In the central
repository.  (And you need both the jar and the pom for it to work.)

Typically the only organizations that can afford to be this paranoid
are really big ones.  I work with one of those.  The internal Maven
repo does not talk to the internet.  Instead, developers fill out a
web form to request a new artifact to be uploaded, someone approves it
if it's in the standards, or sends them off to the reference
architecture team to explain why they need it, and then someone else
presses the buttons in Archiva to upload it.

Plugins are a special case.  Those we handle within the build team, as
they typically want all kinds of dependencies.  So for those we
connect to the internet and use the Maven Assembly plugin to create a
repository bundle by listing the plugin as a dependency.  Maven goes
off and gets everything that plugin needs, and the whole bundle is
uploaded.  Those artifacts generally aren't going to get into your end
product, they are just used during the build.


By the way, I am a bit irritated that maven put's the repository information 
out on the developer's settings.xml. I'd much rather be able to manage that 
centrally, and not leave it as something that they could screw up, or forget to 
do after their hard drive fails and the set things up a second time. Is there a 
way to lock things into a single repository without settings.xml?

That's where it's done, with a mirror in settings.xml.  You can create
your own Maven distribution with the settings.xml you want them to use
packaged inside it (in the /conf directory.)

I assume if you're this strict about dependencies, developers are not
downloading random software from the internet and installing it on
their machines, so provide the Maven distro you want them to use.





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Re: Maven unnecessarily downloads all dependencies from parent, POM's dependencyManagement?

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Kennard
Apologies - I was wrong about this.

Maven does only download those lt;dependencyManagementgt; dependencies 
necessary for the current child POM, not unrelated ones. It was just 
downloading much more than I expected!

Richard.


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