+1 I like this idea of making Maven the default. I'd also like to see if we could being Gradle support into the IDE by default as well. I know its worked on as a plugin but I think bringing it into the standard distribution would be a nice plus to have in the IDE as well.
Regards John On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 11:14, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > Martin, > > Il sab 24 nov 2018, 11:29 Martin Desruisseaux < > martin.desruisse...@geomatys.com> ha scritto: > > > I think differently. In Apache SIS for example, we maintain both a Maven > > and Ant project. The root source code directory is a classical Maven > > project with pom.xml file [1], but we also maintain a sub-directory with > > NetBeans Ant project configuration [2]. The official project > > configuration is the Maven one, but the Ant project configuration is > > keep in sync and takes its dependencies directly from the > > ~/.m2/repository directory. This means that the project needs to be > > built with Maven once before we can use the Ant project. We do that for > > the following reasons: > > > > * NetBeans Ant project builds faster. > > * Application and debugging sessions start faster in NetBeans Ant > > project. This is very convenient when we do a lot of "modify - test" > > cycles. > > * Allow to commit configurations that can not be done in Maven (header > > license, hints, additional words for check speller). > > * NetBeans Ant Jigsaw project configuration offers better > > compatibility with Jigsaw (more on it below). > > > > A major issue is that since Jigsaw, Maven standard directory layout is > > incompatible with java, javac and javadoc "--module-path" option, which > > is making me look for alternatives (Gradle?). I describe the issue at > > [3]. I would like to try changes in maven-compiler, maven-javadoc, > > maven-jar and maven-deploy plugins for supporting Jigsaw, but did not > > had the time to start yet. As far as I can see, I can not modularize my > > projects the way I want with Maven at it stands today. > > > > I also feel more concerned about Maven standard directory layout not > > only because of its incompatibility with Jigsaw module paths, but also > > because it does not seem well suited to project mixing two or more > > languages. For example in the given directory layout: > > > > * src/main/java > > * src/main/cpp > > * src/main/resources > > > > Have you already shared your thoughts and needs with Apache Maven group ? > > Cheers > Enrico > > > > Does the resources applies to Java, to C++ or both? > > > > So Maven is a great tool, but its speed is not yet the same than the > > NetBeans Ant project configuration (admittedly it may be improved with > > time) and - more importantly - I think that the Maven standard directory > > layout needs to be modified at least for Jigsaw compatibility, maybe for > > better multi-language support. > > > > Regards, > > > > Martin > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/sis > > [2] > > https://github.com/apache/sis/tree/master/ide-project/NetBeans/nbproject > > [3] https://github.com/Geomatys/maven-plugins/wiki > > > > -- > > > -- Enrico Olivelli >
