Re: [m2] using java web services
Hi Ashley, There may be a JAXB plugin that I'm unaware of ?? There is an Axis WSDL2Java plugin at mojo.codehaus.orghttp://mojo.codehaus.org . I have also written a WSDL2Java plugin that actually just offloads to an Ant build file to do all of the work. You could easily canibalize my work for JAXB. (It's in JIRA) The steps are essentially the same. BTW: Are you using JAXB2 and WSDLs?? Cheers, -- Chris On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to do some work with the java web services libraries, starting with some simple jaxb stuff so that I can generate my binding classes early on in the lifecycle. Is anything in development I can use, even if it means pulling code out of a svn repository? Thanks AW - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [m2] using java web services
off-topic Hi Ashley, FWIW, given that (it sounds like) you are at the beginnings of hatching a data model (or rather a data-transfer-object model) -- I would highly recommend using WSDLs as teh primary artifact over XSDs (since you say this is for web services). WSDLs are an IDL -- where XSDs are just a part of the picture (the arguments). JAXB2 can consume WSDLs, although it is not widely advertized. And (AFAIK) JAXB2 does not suffer from some of the glaring warts of JAXB1. But keep in mind JAXB2 requires JDK 1.5. I tend to use Axis' WSDL2Java to generate my XML Beans It works against all of the WSDLs/XSDs we've put to it. We had many issues w/ JAXB1. If I were looking only at XSD to Java code generators, I would likely choose XMLBeans over JAXB. Cheers, -- Chris /off-topic On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chris, though I'm not doing anything so heavyweight! I'm just trying to put an end to the days where I have to roll my own java data model from xml. There is something going down for jaxb because I came across the following link: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-71?page=all so I think that because of licensing issues I'm supposed to create my own artifact for jaxb using this pom and my downloaded xjc jar file. As for wsdl, not using it yet simply because there aren't 37 hours in a day to look at it, but it's definitely on my radar ;) Cheers AW On 3 Oct 2005, at 17:27, Chris Berry wrote: Hi Ashley, There may be a JAXB plugin that I'm unaware of ?? There is an Axis WSDL2Java plugin at mojo.codehaus.orghttp://mojo.codehaus.org http:// mojo.codehaus.org http://mojo.codehaus.org . I have also written a WSDL2Java plugin that actually just offloads to an Ant build file to do all of the work. You could easily canibalize my work for JAXB. (It's in JIRA) The steps are essentially the same. BTW: Are you using JAXB2 and WSDLs?? Cheers, -- Chris On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to do some work with the java web services libraries, starting with some simple jaxb stuff so that I can generate my binding classes early on in the lifecycle. Is anything in development I can use, even if it means pulling code out of a svn repository? Thanks AW - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [m2] using java web services (off topic)
off-topic At the moment I'm just looking at code gen so it's interesting that you recommend xmlbeans over jaxb - do you have any links that compare the two? I'd love to know about these warts. You're right about centering on something like wsdl, but I have to start somewhere! wsdl2java looks great, just the sort of thing that gives me confidence in Maven. off-topic On 3 Oct 2005, at 20:12, Chris Berry wrote: off-topic Hi Ashley, FWIW, given that (it sounds like) you are at the beginnings of hatching a data model (or rather a data-transfer-object model) -- I would highly recommend using WSDLs as teh primary artifact over XSDs (since you say this is for web services). WSDLs are an IDL -- where XSDs are just a part of the picture (the arguments). JAXB2 can consume WSDLs, although it is not widely advertized. And (AFAIK) JAXB2 does not suffer from some of the glaring warts of JAXB1. But keep in mind JAXB2 requires JDK 1.5. I tend to use Axis' WSDL2Java to generate my XML Beans It works against all of the WSDLs/XSDs we've put to it. We had many issues w/ JAXB1. If I were looking only at XSD to Java code generators, I would likely choose XMLBeans over JAXB. Cheers, -- Chris /off-topic On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chris, though I'm not doing anything so heavyweight! I'm just trying to put an end to the days where I have to roll my own java data model from xml. There is something going down for jaxb because I came across the following link: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-71?page=all so I think that because of licensing issues I'm supposed to create my own artifact for jaxb using this pom and my downloaded xjc jar file. As for wsdl, not using it yet simply because there aren't 37 hours in a day to look at it, but it's definitely on my radar ;) Cheers AW On 3 Oct 2005, at 17:27, Chris Berry wrote: Hi Ashley, There may be a JAXB plugin that I'm unaware of ?? There is an Axis WSDL2Java plugin at mojo.codehaus.orghttp:// mojo.codehaus.org http:// mojo.codehaus.org http://mojo.codehaus.org . I have also written a WSDL2Java plugin that actually just offloads to an Ant build file to do all of the work. You could easily canibalize my work for JAXB. (It's in JIRA) The steps are essentially the same. BTW: Are you using JAXB2 and WSDLs?? Cheers, -- Chris On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to do some work with the java web services libraries, starting with some simple jaxb stuff so that I can generate my binding classes early on in the lifecycle. Is anything in development I can use, even if it means pulling code out of a svn repository? Thanks AW --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [m2] using java web services (off topic)
inline, cheers, -- Chris BTW: if you need to followup -- we should probably take the discussion offline ;-) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off-topic At the moment I'm just looking at code gen so it's interesting that you recommend xmlbeans over jaxb - xmlbeans is more feature rich and could be faster because it has a lazy loading feature. That said, I've not used it -- although juxtaposed against JAXB (at least the Sun implementation) I wish we had given it a go... We went w/ JAXB because it is a standard. Unfortunately, it was a can of worms as well... The biggest warts; 1) JAXB generates an impl-specific class with the same name (ObjectFactory) for every XSD you process. This can, and often will, cause conflicts. If you have two XSDs that you process independently in the build and they generate into the same package then the last one in will win. As you might imagine, this is a big problem. Sure you can work around it by putting each XSD (and all the XSDs it may chain in) into it's own namespace -- but then you get massive duplication of generated code (if XSDs are shared -- i.e both A.xsdand B.xsd include C.xsd.). BTW: note that WSDL2Java doesn't have this issue. It generates a unique names (based on the WSDL) for all classes it generates. I don't know what xmlbeans does?? 2) xjc dumps core often (at least for us). You have to kick the Stack size up to get it somewhat stable. It's been quite problematic... 3) JAXB is way too verbose. It generates a boat load of classes to represent an XSD. It could and should be much more terse. In fact, JAXB2 supposedly corrects this. (But like I said, JAXB2 requires Java 1.5 -- which we cannot yet use) do you have any links that compare the two? I'd love to know about these warts. You're right about centering on something like wsdl, but I have to start somewhere! I'd start w/ WSDL -- it's where you will eventually end up . ;-) wsdl2java looks great, just the sort of thing that gives me confidence in Maven. off-topic On 3 Oct 2005, at 20:12, Chris Berry wrote: off-topic Hi Ashley, FWIW, given that (it sounds like) you are at the beginnings of hatching a data model (or rather a data-transfer-object model) -- I would highly recommend using WSDLs as teh primary artifact over XSDs (since you say this is for web services). WSDLs are an IDL -- where XSDs are just a part of the picture (the arguments). JAXB2 can consume WSDLs, although it is not widely advertized. And (AFAIK) JAXB2 does not suffer from some of the glaring warts of JAXB1. But keep in mind JAXB2 requires JDK 1.5. I tend to use Axis' WSDL2Java to generate my XML Beans It works against all of the WSDLs/XSDs we've put to it. We had many issues w/ JAXB1. If I were looking only at XSD to Java code generators, I would likely choose XMLBeans over JAXB. Cheers, -- Chris /off-topic On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chris, though I'm not doing anything so heavyweight! I'm just trying to put an end to the days where I have to roll my own java data model from xml. There is something going down for jaxb because I came across the following link: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MEV-71?page=all so I think that because of licensing issues I'm supposed to create my own artifact for jaxb using this pom and my downloaded xjc jar file. As for wsdl, not using it yet simply because there aren't 37 hours in a day to look at it, but it's definitely on my radar ;) Cheers AW On 3 Oct 2005, at 17:27, Chris Berry wrote: Hi Ashley, There may be a JAXB plugin that I'm unaware of ?? There is an Axis WSDL2Java plugin at mojo.codehaus.orghttp://mojo.codehaus.org http:// mojo.codehaus.org http://mojo.codehaus.org http:// mojo.codehaus.org http://mojo.codehaus.org http://mojo.codehaus.org . I have also written a WSDL2Java plugin that actually just offloads to an Ant build file to do all of the work. You could easily canibalize my work for JAXB. (It's in JIRA) The steps are essentially the same. BTW: Are you using JAXB2 and WSDLs?? Cheers, -- Chris On 10/3/05, Ashley Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to do some work with the java web services libraries, starting with some simple jaxb stuff so that I can generate my binding classes early on in the lifecycle. Is anything in development I can use, even if it means pulling code out of a svn repository? Thanks AW --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
