Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Do you use release plugin? The release plugin should increment the version of the parent pom and the pom itself for you. If you mean this one: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-release-plugin/index.html No. I had a hard time understanding what it actually does from the docs and it seems like I would need commit access to all the sub-projects (which I do not have). If you have dependencies to sibling pom in your dependencies declaration, I'd use version${project.version}/version to get around the problem that the release tag won't increment the version back to snapshot. What do you mean? Where would I specify this property? In the master POM? Is this a special property in maven2? I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## DISCLAIMER: This email and any attachment may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you are not authorized to copy or disclose all or any part of it without the prior written consent of Toyota. Opinions expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the sender and not necessarily the opinions of Toyota. Please scan this email and any attachment(s) for viruses. Toyota does not accept any responsibility for problems caused by viruses, whether it is Toyota's fault or not. ## -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Looking into your POMs, I think you should start using the release-plugin (is you aren't already). Your only problem is that the 'master'-POM doesn't know the 'base'-POM. (Seeing there's only 1 of both, why not merge them?). When you use the 'modules'-tag in Maven, the versions are normally updated by the release-plugin. So, I suggest you either add the 'base' as a module in the 'master', or add a version-tag to the 'base', which can then be easily released by Maven. In this last case however, you do need to update the version of the 'master' inside the 'base' manually. It's the same case we have here in my company, we have a company-wide master, which is not allowed to know all projects. If this POM gets updated, we must manually update out projects. However, we do not HAVE to do this, since some changes to the master might be irrelevant for some projects. Therefor we stick with this method and let projects decide whether or not to update. We do however send all employees a release-mail, so they at least know there's a new version. Updating is then discussed and decided within the projects. On Wednesday 14 November 2007 23:44, Aaron Zeckoski wrote: I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Roland Asmann CFC Informationssysteme Entwicklungsgesellschaft m.b.H Bäckerstrasse 1/2/7 A-1010 Wien FN 266155f, Handelsgericht Wien Tel.: +43/1/513 88 77 - 27 Fax.: +43/1/513 88 62 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.cfc.at - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Well, I read in one of your other messages that you don't have access to the other projects and therefor can't use the release-plugin... I'm afraid that means you're pretty much stuck with manually updating these versions. A possible work-around could be to write a Maven-plugin that updates all the versions... On Thursday 15 November 2007 12:28, Aaron Zeckoski wrote: Currently the master POM keeps track of things like properties and a large set of shared dependencies (among other things). The base POM mostly maintains the set of modules (this POM is swapped out depending on what kind of release we are doing). The project POMs are effectively standalone except that they need the properties and shared dependencies from the master POM. Do you still think we should put the base and master together (based on what I said above)? The key issue here is that the projects need to be able to evolve separately and we want to be able to create different kinds of releases. A full release which includes all the projects, a partial release which includes roughly half of the projects, and mini release which includes the minimum set of projects for the system to run. Ideally each release has a separate version number. Currently, we are handling the multiple types of releases with new base POMs but we have no way to handle the versioning. I am open to completely changing things around as long as we can get the multiple types of releases and can control the versions. What is the most maintainable way to handle this? Thanks! -AZ On Nov 15, 2007 10:58 AM, Roland Asmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking into your POMs, I think you should start using the release-plugin (is you aren't already). Your only problem is that the 'master'-POM doesn't know the 'base'-POM. (Seeing there's only 1 of both, why not merge them?). When you use the 'modules'-tag in Maven, the versions are normally updated by the release-plugin. So, I suggest you either add the 'base' as a module in the 'master', or add a version-tag to the 'base', which can then be easily released by Maven. In this last case however, you do need to update the version of the 'master' inside the 'base' manually. It's the same case we have here in my company, we have a company-wide master, which is not allowed to know all projects. If this POM gets updated, we must manually update out projects. However, we do not HAVE to do this, since some changes to the master might be irrelevant for some projects. Therefor we stick with this method and let projects decide whether or not to update. We do however send all employees a release-mail, so they at least know there's a new version. Updating is then discussed and decided within the projects. On Wednesday 14 November 2007 23:44, Aaron Zeckoski wrote: I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Roland Asmann CFC Informationssysteme Entwicklungsgesellschaft m.b.H Bäckerstrasse 1/2/7 A-1010 Wien FN 266155f, Handelsgericht Wien Tel.: +43/1/513 88 77 - 27 Fax.: +43/1/513 88 62 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.cfc.at - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Roland Asmann CFC Informationssysteme Entwicklungsgesellschaft m.b.H Bäckerstrasse 1/2/7 A-1010 Wien FN 266155f, Handelsgericht Wien Tel.: +43/1/513 88 77 - 27 Fax.: +43/1/513 88 62 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.cfc.at - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Currently the master POM keeps track of things like properties and a large set of shared dependencies (among other things). The base POM mostly maintains the set of modules (this POM is swapped out depending on what kind of release we are doing). The project POMs are effectively standalone except that they need the properties and shared dependencies from the master POM. Do you still think we should put the base and master together (based on what I said above)? The key issue here is that the projects need to be able to evolve separately and we want to be able to create different kinds of releases. A full release which includes all the projects, a partial release which includes roughly half of the projects, and mini release which includes the minimum set of projects for the system to run. Ideally each release has a separate version number. Currently, we are handling the multiple types of releases with new base POMs but we have no way to handle the versioning. I am open to completely changing things around as long as we can get the multiple types of releases and can control the versions. What is the most maintainable way to handle this? Thanks! -AZ On Nov 15, 2007 10:58 AM, Roland Asmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking into your POMs, I think you should start using the release-plugin (is you aren't already). Your only problem is that the 'master'-POM doesn't know the 'base'-POM. (Seeing there's only 1 of both, why not merge them?). When you use the 'modules'-tag in Maven, the versions are normally updated by the release-plugin. So, I suggest you either add the 'base' as a module in the 'master', or add a version-tag to the 'base', which can then be easily released by Maven. In this last case however, you do need to update the version of the 'master' inside the 'base' manually. It's the same case we have here in my company, we have a company-wide master, which is not allowed to know all projects. If this POM gets updated, we must manually update out projects. However, we do not HAVE to do this, since some changes to the master might be irrelevant for some projects. Therefor we stick with this method and let projects decide whether or not to update. We do however send all employees a release-mail, so they at least know there's a new version. Updating is then discussed and decided within the projects. On Wednesday 14 November 2007 23:44, Aaron Zeckoski wrote: I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Roland Asmann CFC Informationssysteme Entwicklungsgesellschaft m.b.H Bäckerstrasse 1/2/7 A-1010 Wien FN 266155f, Handelsgericht Wien Tel.: +43/1/513 88 77 - 27 Fax.: +43/1/513 88 62 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.cfc.at - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/]
Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Sorry Arron, I have missed that section of your mail. Yes you do need commit access across all project. I think it is reasonable that if you don't have commit access to all the projects then you need to manually coordinate the change with everyone. It is a pain so commit access can solve the problem very easily. If it is a politically sensitive thing to gain this access you could try to configure your source control to only give you access to pom.xml. Also, looking at your poms, I think you have a very non conventional setup. You have alot of dependencies setup in the parent pom with provided scope - those dependencies also seems to be artifacts of your child projects. To be honest, I'm really confused about the structure of your poms. Have you converted this Maven project structure from Ant? How have you managed to perform a release of your software without a the use of release plugin? I can't imagine how your build will work as it is like chicken and egg problem - i.e., you need all the artifacts of the 50+ modules before you even get to build all of them. The release tag helps you to increment -SNAPSHOT version to non snapshot. It then tag the code and pull the code out for a clean build which it's artifacts then gets deployed to the repository. The pom version and parent pom version is then incremented back to the next -SNAPSHOT ready for development again. Basically it automates the manual work of tagging, incrementing version numbers, commiting to source control and releasing your software version. ${project.version} just refers to the version of the pom - this is a built-in facility of Maven to reference various element value with the pom. Cheers, rOnn c. Aaron Zeckoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/15/2007 08:27 PM Please respond to Maven Users List users@maven.apache.org To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Maven Users List users@maven.apache.org Subject Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs? Do you use release plugin? The release plugin should increment the version of the parent pom and the pom itself for you. If you mean this one: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-release-plugin/index.html No. I had a hard time understanding what it actually does from the docs and it seems like I would need commit access to all the sub-projects (which I do not have). If you have dependencies to sibling pom in your dependencies declaration, I'd use version${project.version}/version to get around the problem that the release tag won't increment the version back to snapshot. What do you mean? Where would I specify this property? In the master POM? Is this a special property in maven2? I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## DISCLAIMER: This email and any attachment may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you are not authorized to copy or disclose all or any part of it without the prior written consent of Toyota. Opinions expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the sender and not necessarily the opinions of Toyota. Please scan this email and any attachment(s) for viruses. Toyota does not accept any responsibility for problems caused by viruses, whether it is Toyota's fault
How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to control versioning across multiple POMs?
Hi Aaron, Do you use release plugin? The release plugin should increment the version of the parent pom and the pom itself for you. If you have dependencies to sibling pom in your dependencies declaration, I'd use version${project.version}/version to get around the problem that the release tag won't increment the version back to snapshot. Cheers, rOnn c. Aaron Zeckoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/15/2007 09:44 AM Please respond to Maven Users List users@maven.apache.org To Maven Users List users@maven.apache.org cc Subject How to control versioning across multiple POMs? I have a series of 3 POMs and I need to be able to control versioning across them. They are arranged like so: master POM (parent of) base POM (parent of) project POM There is one master and one base POM but there are many many project POMs, roughly 50+ currently with new ones being added The master POM has a version (as it seems all children must specify the version of the parent correctly in the parent tag). The base POM has no version as it inherits from the master. The problem here is that we want to upgrade the overall version... except that every project POM specifies the version of either the master or base POM (in the parent tag). It means we have to somehow coordinate among 50+ projects (which are controlled by various people/groups) and tell them to all change the version of the parent. This is not ideal at all and I suspect we are just doing something dumb or completely wrong. So, how can we control the overall version for all the projects without having to change all of the POMs? You can view the source here if you like: master: https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/trunk/pom.xml base: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/pom.xml sample project: https://source.sakaiproject.org/contrib/caret/kernel/alias/pom.xml -AZ -- Aaron Zeckoski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/] Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## DISCLAIMER: This email and any attachment may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient you are not authorized to copy or disclose all or any part of it without the prior written consent of Toyota. Opinions expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the sender and not necessarily the opinions of Toyota. Please scan this email and any attachment(s) for viruses. Toyota does not accept any responsibility for problems caused by viruses, whether it is Toyota's fault or not. ##