RE: Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-03 Thread Moore, Kent
>> It seems that the only system that supports both NuGet and Maven is Nexus.  

Not looking to turn this into an Artifactory versus Nexus discussion, but with 
at least the Professional version we use, Artifactory does provide support for 
NuGet - 

http://www.jfrog.com/confluence/display/RTF/NuGet+Repositories

Artifactory supports yum, npm, and rubygems as well.


-Original Message-
From: Preston, Dale [mailto:dale.pres...@conocophillips.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:37 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: RE: Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

Manfred,

I think you've hit the nail on the head, understanding our problem and the best 
path forward.  It seems that the only system that supports both NuGet and Maven 
is Nexus.  Now I wish we'd gone with Nexus when we put in the Artifactory.  We 
went with Artifactory initially simply because we were able to get a build 
image for Azure that had our initial instance up and running in about 5 minutes 
- including server build.  We use it internally only now - no Azure.

Now I just have to convince the TFS team to implement Nexus instead of, or 
alongside, the ProGet system they just put in place.

I'm going to build a Nexus OSS repository and try it out.  

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Manfred Moser [mailto:manf...@mosabuam.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 23:44
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

Dale,

At one of my clients we have a large TFS deployment for TFVC and GIT as well as 
a lot of the other SDLC support. However TFS does NOT include support for a 
binary component repository manager like Artifactory or Nexus. And we also 
ended up using Jenkins fyi.

I think you have no real choice but to use repository manager in parallel to 
your TFS server. If you try to put the component/repository management aspect 
into TFS/TFVC with some manual/custom setup you will spend considerable time 
and money getting that working and supporting it.

My suggestion would be to get the development infrastructure support team (same 
team as TFS admins, often called build mgt team, or dev infrastructure or 
SCM...) to take on the role of managing a repo manager.

When it comes to choice of repo manager my suggestions would be to use Sonatype 
Nexus OSS since it gives you support for Maven and NuGet repositories without 
any licensing requirements and is the most widely used repo manager. Nexus OSS 
also includes yum, npm and rubygems support in case you need those. 

Here is the Nexus docs.
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__books.sonatype.com_nexus-2Dbook_reference_index.html&d=AwIFAg&c=3BfiSO86x5iKjpl2b39jud9R1NrKYqPq2js90dwBswk&r=NF0IAYI_NfHhkV8nahJdQXSh8gVSRYc26SLHnrGzSoM&m=LwWDBk18hifsrfLiBhiQRgLhsWZaYKcZKUdTYVMCLho&s=w1vFJHRH37KDpOzfd6BYkZaLRi6Utj4UTyX9uqUhMPA&e=
  

You might also want to read some of the blogs posts regarding Nexus and Nuget 
from Damir Arh.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.sonatype.org_nexus_author_d-2Darh_&d=AwIFAg&c=3BfiSO86x5iKjpl2b39jud9R1NrKYqPq2js90dwBswk&r=NF0IAYI_NfHhkV8nahJdQXSh8gVSRYc26SLHnrGzSoM&m=LwWDBk18hifsrfLiBhiQRgLhsWZaYKcZKUdTYVMCLho&s=Asux9UAbaeanMWPXUYOKRPpjBgb4aTUUt1HsgOqCZbw&e=
 

I hope that helps

Manfred

Disclaimer: I also work with Sonatype as Nexus trainer and author among other 
things.


Preston, Dale wrote on 02.03.2015 11:57:

> The .net world uses NuGet for dependency resolution in a way similar, 
> but not exactly like, Maven would use Artifactory or Maven 
> repositories.  The newest version of TFS will support Maven builds and 
> Java - though all the old versions did as well; it was just not as 
> well integrated and required custom build scripting.  We'd like to 
> dump our GIT/Artifactory/Jenkins for TFS so that the TFS team can 
> support our SDLC environment and our development team doesn't have to.
> 
> We believe we can do everything except the dependency 
> resolution/repository functionality that Artifactory provides in TFS 
> 2015.  The TFS team doesn't want to support Artifactory though so we'd 
> end up with split support for our environment.  I'd rather keep our 
> SDLC stack than to just give part of it to them but I'd love to hand 
> it all off to someone outside of our developer team for support so developers 
> can work on coding.
> 
> I hope that makes it clearer what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.
> 
> Dale
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Heinz Marbaise [mailto:khmarba...@gmx.de]
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 13:07
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven 
> repositories...
> 
> A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other re

RE: Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-03 Thread Preston, Dale
Manfred,

I think you've hit the nail on the head, understanding our problem and the best 
path forward.  It seems that the only system that supports both NuGet and Maven 
is Nexus.  Now I wish we'd gone with Nexus when we put in the Artifactory.  We 
went with Artifactory initially simply because we were able to get a build 
image for Azure that had our initial instance up and running in about 5 minutes 
- including server build.  We use it internally only now - no Azure.

Now I just have to convince the TFS team to implement Nexus instead of, or 
alongside, the ProGet system they just put in place.

I'm going to build a Nexus OSS repository and try it out.  

Thanks.


-Original Message-
From: Manfred Moser [mailto:manf...@mosabuam.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 23:44
To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

Dale,

At one of my clients we have a large TFS deployment for TFVC and GIT as well as 
a lot of the other SDLC support. However TFS does NOT include support for a 
binary component repository manager like Artifactory or Nexus. And we also 
ended up using Jenkins fyi.

I think you have no real choice but to use repository manager in parallel to 
your TFS server. If you try to put the component/repository management aspect 
into TFS/TFVC with some manual/custom setup you will spend considerable time 
and money getting that working and supporting it.

My suggestion would be to get the development infrastructure support team (same 
team as TFS admins, often called build mgt team, or dev infrastructure or 
SCM...) to take on the role of managing a repo manager.

When it comes to choice of repo manager my suggestions would be to use Sonatype 
Nexus OSS since it gives you support for Maven and NuGet repositories without 
any licensing requirements and is the most widely used repo manager. Nexus OSS 
also includes yum, npm and rubygems support in case you need those. 

Here is the Nexus docs.
http://books.sonatype.com/nexus-book/reference/index.html 

You might also want to read some of the blogs posts regarding Nexus and Nuget 
from Damir Arh.

http://www.sonatype.org/nexus/author/d-arh/

I hope that helps

Manfred

Disclaimer: I also work with Sonatype as Nexus trainer and author among other 
things.


Preston, Dale wrote on 02.03.2015 11:57:

> The .net world uses NuGet for dependency resolution in a way similar, but not
> exactly like, Maven would use Artifactory or Maven repositories.  The newest
> version of TFS will support Maven builds and Java - though all the old 
> versions
> did as well; it was just not as well integrated and required custom build
> scripting.  We'd like to dump our GIT/Artifactory/Jenkins for TFS so that the
> TFS team can support our SDLC environment and our development team doesn't 
> have
> to.
> 
> We believe we can do everything except the dependency resolution/repository
> functionality that Artifactory provides in TFS 2015.  The TFS team doesn't 
> want
> to support Artifactory though so we'd end up with split support for our
> environment.  I'd rather keep our SDLC stack than to just give part of it to
> them but I'd love to hand it all off to someone outside of our developer team
> for support so developers can work on coding.
> 
> I hope that makes it clearer what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.
> 
> Dale
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Heinz Marbaise [mailto:khmarba...@gmx.de] 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 13:07
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven 
> repositories...
> 
> A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other repository manager 
> don't need any integration into TFS (version control?) ?
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
> On 3/2/15 8:03 PM, Preston, Dale wrote:
>> Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We
>> currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but
>> would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave
>> and Maven projects.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> Dale Preston
>> Senior Integration Analyst
>> Alaska Data Integrator
>> 918-661-1346 (Desk)
>> 918-931-9182 (Mobile)
>>
>>
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Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-02 Thread Ron Wheeler
And once Nexus is set up it is almost invisible in terms of support 
requirements.


Just a Nexus user.

Ron

On 03/03/2015 12:43 AM, Manfred Moser wrote:

Dale,

At one of my clients we have a large TFS deployment for TFVC and GIT as well as 
a lot of the other SDLC support. However TFS does NOT include support for a 
binary component repository manager like Artifactory or Nexus. And we also 
ended up using Jenkins fyi.

I think you have no real choice but to use repository manager in parallel to 
your TFS server. If you try to put the component/repository management aspect 
into TFS/TFVC with some manual/custom setup you will spend considerable time 
and money getting that working and supporting it.

My suggestion would be to get the development infrastructure support team (same 
team as TFS admins, often called build mgt team, or dev infrastructure or 
SCM...) to take on the role of managing a repo manager.

When it comes to choice of repo manager my suggestions would be to use Sonatype 
Nexus OSS since it gives you support for Maven and NuGet repositories without 
any licensing requirements and is the most widely used repo manager. Nexus OSS 
also includes yum, npm and rubygems support in case you need those.

Here is the Nexus docs.
http://books.sonatype.com/nexus-book/reference/index.html

You might also want to read some of the blogs posts regarding Nexus and Nuget 
from Damir Arh.

http://www.sonatype.org/nexus/author/d-arh/

I hope that helps

Manfred

Disclaimer: I also work with Sonatype as Nexus trainer and author among other 
things.


Preston, Dale wrote on 02.03.2015 11:57:


The .net world uses NuGet for dependency resolution in a way similar, but not
exactly like, Maven would use Artifactory or Maven repositories.  The newest
version of TFS will support Maven builds and Java - though all the old versions
did as well; it was just not as well integrated and required custom build
scripting.  We'd like to dump our GIT/Artifactory/Jenkins for TFS so that the
TFS team can support our SDLC environment and our development team doesn't have
to.

We believe we can do everything except the dependency resolution/repository
functionality that Artifactory provides in TFS 2015.  The TFS team doesn't want
to support Artifactory though so we'd end up with split support for our
environment.  I'd rather keep our SDLC stack than to just give part of it to
them but I'd love to hand it all off to someone outside of our developer team
for support so developers can work on coding.

I hope that makes it clearer what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.

Dale

-Original Message-
From: Karl Heinz Marbaise [mailto:khmarba...@gmx.de]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 13:07
To: Maven Users List
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

Hi,

What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven
repositories...

A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other repository manager
don't need any integration into TFS (version control?) ?


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
On 3/2/15 8:03 PM, Preston, Dale wrote:

Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We
currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but
would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave
and Maven projects.

Thanks,

Dale

Dale Preston
Senior Integration Analyst
Alaska Data Integrator
918-661-1346 (Desk)
918-931-9182 (Mobile)





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Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-02 Thread Manfred Moser
Dale,

At one of my clients we have a large TFS deployment for TFVC and GIT as well as 
a lot of the other SDLC support. However TFS does NOT include support for a 
binary component repository manager like Artifactory or Nexus. And we also 
ended up using Jenkins fyi.

I think you have no real choice but to use repository manager in parallel to 
your TFS server. If you try to put the component/repository management aspect 
into TFS/TFVC with some manual/custom setup you will spend considerable time 
and money getting that working and supporting it.

My suggestion would be to get the development infrastructure support team (same 
team as TFS admins, often called build mgt team, or dev infrastructure or 
SCM...) to take on the role of managing a repo manager.

When it comes to choice of repo manager my suggestions would be to use Sonatype 
Nexus OSS since it gives you support for Maven and NuGet repositories without 
any licensing requirements and is the most widely used repo manager. Nexus OSS 
also includes yum, npm and rubygems support in case you need those. 

Here is the Nexus docs.
http://books.sonatype.com/nexus-book/reference/index.html 

You might also want to read some of the blogs posts regarding Nexus and Nuget 
from Damir Arh.

http://www.sonatype.org/nexus/author/d-arh/

I hope that helps

Manfred

Disclaimer: I also work with Sonatype as Nexus trainer and author among other 
things.


Preston, Dale wrote on 02.03.2015 11:57:

> The .net world uses NuGet for dependency resolution in a way similar, but not
> exactly like, Maven would use Artifactory or Maven repositories.  The newest
> version of TFS will support Maven builds and Java - though all the old 
> versions
> did as well; it was just not as well integrated and required custom build
> scripting.  We'd like to dump our GIT/Artifactory/Jenkins for TFS so that the
> TFS team can support our SDLC environment and our development team doesn't 
> have
> to.
> 
> We believe we can do everything except the dependency resolution/repository
> functionality that Artifactory provides in TFS 2015.  The TFS team doesn't 
> want
> to support Artifactory though so we'd end up with split support for our
> environment.  I'd rather keep our SDLC stack than to just give part of it to
> them but I'd love to hand it all off to someone outside of our developer team
> for support so developers can work on coding.
> 
> I hope that makes it clearer what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.
> 
> Dale
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Karl Heinz Marbaise [mailto:khmarba...@gmx.de] 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 13:07
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven 
> repositories...
> 
> A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other repository manager 
> don't need any integration into TFS (version control?) ?
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Karl Heinz Marbaise
> On 3/2/15 8:03 PM, Preston, Dale wrote:
>> Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We
>> currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but
>> would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave
>> and Maven projects.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> Dale Preston
>> Senior Integration Analyst
>> Alaska Data Integrator
>> 918-661-1346 (Desk)
>> 918-931-9182 (Mobile)
>>
>>
> 
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RE: Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-02 Thread Preston, Dale
The .net world uses NuGet for dependency resolution in a way similar, but not 
exactly like, Maven would use Artifactory or Maven repositories.  The newest 
version of TFS will support Maven builds and Java - though all the old versions 
did as well; it was just not as well integrated and required custom build 
scripting.  We'd like to dump our GIT/Artifactory/Jenkins for TFS so that the 
TFS team can support our SDLC environment and our development team doesn't have 
to.

We believe we can do everything except the dependency resolution/repository 
functionality that Artifactory provides in TFS 2015.  The TFS team doesn't want 
to support Artifactory though so we'd end up with split support for our 
environment.  I'd rather keep our SDLC stack than to just give part of it to 
them but I'd love to hand it all off to someone outside of our developer team 
for support so developers can work on coding.

I hope that makes it clearer what it is that I'm trying to accomplish.

Dale

-Original Message-
From: Karl Heinz Marbaise [mailto:khmarba...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 13:07
To: Maven Users List
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

Hi,

What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven 
repositories...

A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other repository manager 
don't need any integration into TFS (version control?) ?


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
On 3/2/15 8:03 PM, Preston, Dale wrote:
> Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We 
> currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but 
> would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave 
> and Maven projects.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dale
>
> Dale Preston
> Senior Integration Analyst
> Alaska Data Integrator
> 918-661-1346 (Desk)
> 918-931-9182 (Mobile)
>
>



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Re: TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-02 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

What do you exactly mean by TFS / NuGet integration for Maven 
repositories...


A maven repository either in Artifactory or in other repository manager 
don't need any integration into TFS (version control?) ?



Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
On 3/2/15 8:03 PM, Preston, Dale wrote:

Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We 
currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but 
would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave 
and Maven projects.

Thanks,

Dale

Dale Preston
Senior Integration Analyst
Alaska Data Integrator
918-661-1346 (Desk)
918-931-9182 (Mobile)






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TFS or NuGet repository for Maven

2015-03-02 Thread Preston, Dale
Is anyone aware of any TFS or NuGet integration for Maven repositories?  We 
currently have an Artifactory repository internally for use with Maven but 
would like to integrate with our corporate TFS or NuGet servers for our Jave 
and Maven projects.

Thanks,

Dale

Dale Preston
Senior Integration Analyst
Alaska Data Integrator
918-661-1346 (Desk)
918-931-9182 (Mobile)