Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Ted
I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the
blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved
Mojarra...

On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote:
 FYI,

 JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1]

 What is MyFaces response to this? :)

 When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I think
 I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get
 updates/comments on this JIRA.


 [1]
 http://blog.oio.de/2013/05/16/jsf-performance-mojarra-improves-dramatically-with-latest-release/



-- 
Ted.


Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
Agreed/understood..MyFaces is 'still' faster than the enhanced Mojarra.

I just like MyFaces users/list to see/know what others are saying and what
others are trying to achieve.

I migrated from Mojarra to MyFaces, months ago, after reading a similar
blog and being advised by some other/expert JSF developers to 'try' MyFaces
since/when Mojarra fails at this/that.

With all that said, would MyFaces (committers) rather just wait for Mojarra
to keep-on-improving and possibly/eventually perform better than
MyFaces...before MyFaces become concerned, or this latest Mojarra
performance enhancement really does not concern MyFaces committers? :)



On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Ted r6squee...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the
 blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved
 Mojarra...

 On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI,
 
  JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1]
 
  What is MyFaces response to this? :)
 
  When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I
 think
  I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get
  updates/comments on this JIRA.
 
 
  [1]
 
 http://blog.oio.de/2013/05/16/jsf-performance-mojarra-improves-dramatically-with-latest-release/
 


 --
 Ted.



Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
Forgot to mention (below/inline)

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. 
smithh032...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed/understood..MyFaces is 'still' faster than the enhanced Mojarra.

 I just like MyFaces users/list to see/know what others are saying and what
 others are trying to achieve.

 I migrated from Mojarra to MyFaces, months ago, after reading a similar
 blog and being advised by some other/expert JSF developers to 'try' MyFaces
 since/when Mojarra fails at this/that.

 With all that said, would MyFaces (committers) rather just wait for
 Mojarra to keep-on-improving and possibly/eventually perform better than
 MyFaces...before MyFaces become concerned, or this latest Mojarra
 performance enhancement really does not concern MyFaces committers? :)


Just sharing... I tend to be 'very' loyal to a 'brand' if I find success
with/via that brand. So, when I first started developing JSF web app, of
course, I was using 'Oracle's NetBeans, Glassfish, and Mojarra (reference
implementation 'bundle'...smile). So, when I saw 'try' MyFaces in
PrimeFaces forum, I used to be 'very' opposed to leaving this Mojarra
(brand) and going off to 'try' another brand (MyFaces).

Finally, 'try' MyFaces and blog about performance comparison between
wicket, MyFaces, and Mojarra...had me sold to finally 'try' MyFaces. Yes,
it was a struggle, migrating from Mojarra to myFaces, but I have been
pleased ever since, and honestly, I prefer 'not' to go back to the RI,
Mojarra, if I can help it.

I have heard/read/seen some popular/known JSF experts prefer/recommend
Mojarra and even contribute to Mojarra by reporting
issues/bugs/defects/etc..., but when I think back, I seem to recall 'more'
Mojarra bugs than I remember 'MyFaces' bugs (that 'impacted me and my JSF
web app').

So, with all that said...I'm sure you know where I stand. :)


Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Leonardo Uribe
Hi

I read the article some days ago, but the tests done using the demo booking
application shows this:

Mojarra 2.1.20
90% line : 79
Througput (Bytes per sec) : 1107.97

Mojarra 2.1.22
90% line : 76
Througput (Bytes per sec) : 1159.97

The fix done improves just a bit, but fundamentally nothing changes.

It is good that Mojarra guys fix that, but the improvement only has effect
when you have very large component trees.

regards,

Leonardo Uribe

2013/5/21 Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com

 Agreed/understood..MyFaces is 'still' faster than the enhanced Mojarra.

 I just like MyFaces users/list to see/know what others are saying and what
 others are trying to achieve.

 I migrated from Mojarra to MyFaces, months ago, after reading a similar
 blog and being advised by some other/expert JSF developers to 'try' MyFaces
 since/when Mojarra fails at this/that.

 With all that said, would MyFaces (committers) rather just wait for Mojarra
 to keep-on-improving and possibly/eventually perform better than
 MyFaces...before MyFaces become concerned, or this latest Mojarra
 performance enhancement really does not concern MyFaces committers? :)



 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Ted r6squee...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the
  blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved
  Mojarra...
 
  On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote:
   FYI,
  
   JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1]
  
   What is MyFaces response to this? :)
  
   When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I
  think
   I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get
   updates/comments on this JIRA.
  
  
   [1]
  
 
 http://blog.oio.de/2013/05/16/jsf-performance-mojarra-improves-dramatically-with-latest-release/
  
 
 
  --
  Ted.
 



Re: JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release

2013-05-21 Thread Howard W. Smith, Jr.
That's the response I was looking for! Thanks Leonardo for the
clarification-n-correction! :)



On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Leonardo Uribe lu4...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I read the article some days ago, but the tests done using the demo booking
 application shows this:

 Mojarra 2.1.20
 90% line : 79
 Througput (Bytes per sec) : 1107.97

 Mojarra 2.1.22
 90% line : 76
 Througput (Bytes per sec) : 1159.97

 The fix done improves just a bit, but fundamentally nothing changes.

 It is good that Mojarra guys fix that, but the improvement only has effect
 when you have very large component trees.

 regards,

 Leonardo Uribe

 2013/5/21 Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com

  Agreed/understood..MyFaces is 'still' faster than the enhanced Mojarra.
 
  I just like MyFaces users/list to see/know what others are saying and
 what
  others are trying to achieve.
 
  I migrated from Mojarra to MyFaces, months ago, after reading a similar
  blog and being advised by some other/expert JSF developers to 'try'
 MyFaces
  since/when Mojarra fails at this/that.
 
  With all that said, would MyFaces (committers) rather just wait for
 Mojarra
  to keep-on-improving and possibly/eventually perform better than
  MyFaces...before MyFaces become concerned, or this latest Mojarra
  performance enhancement really does not concern MyFaces committers? :)
 
 
 
  On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Ted r6squee...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I'm not sure MyFaces needs to respond to this. Did you look at the
   blog link you posted? MyFaces is still faster than the improved
   Mojarra...
  
   On 5/22/13, Howard W. Smith, Jr. smithh032...@gmail.com wrote:
FYI,
   
JSF Performance: Mojarra improves dramatically with latest release[1]
   
What is MyFaces response to this? :)
   
When I was using Mojarra months ago (before I migrated to MyFaces), I
   think
I voted for this JIRA for tracking purposes, so I still get
updates/comments on this JIRA.
   
   
[1]
   
  
 
 http://blog.oio.de/2013/05/16/jsf-performance-mojarra-improves-dramatically-with-latest-release/
   
  
  
   --
   Ted.