Re: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:44:50 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:

> Well, it seems that the touchpad was not disabled after all.  Maybe it 
> has to be done each time I turn the thing on.  I also have noticed now 
> (didn't notice it before) that when the touchpad is tuned OFF, a small 
> led lights up above it, so that should be a good indicator for me.  I 
> sure hope this solves the problem because I've been tearing my hair out 
> (and I can't afford to lose any more of that).
> 
> Dale Erwin
> Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
> Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
> http://leather.casaerwin.org
> 
> On 12/26/2012 7:22 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:
> > Rory and Dennis and Virgil, thanks but...
> >
> > I had a laptop before but I did not use it much.  It was (and still 
> > is) my wife's machine) so I learned a long time ago that I can't 
> > tolerate the touchpad.  Since the first day I got this new laptop, I 
> > have been using a USB mouse and have the touchpad disabled.  However, 
> > now that I read so many similar reports, I've been deliberately trying 
> > to make the cursor move with the touchpad and it seems like it does 
> > still move the cursor around.
> >
> > This just might be a deal breaker.  I also find that when typing 
> > messages here in this Firefox editor that the font size just changes 
> > all by itself while I'm typing.
> >
> > Dale Erwin
> > Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
> > Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
> > http://leather.casaerwin.org
> >
> > On 12/26/2012 2:59 PM, VA wrote:
> >> I feel confident that your touchpad is the culprit.
> >>
> >> Sometimes, my touchpad will sense the slightest brush of my thumb. 
> >> Sometimes, if I even slightly move my thumb over the pad, it will 
> >> actually highlight text and as soon as I type another letter, it will 
> >> replace all the selected text with my next letter. I then have to hit 
> >> Ctrl-z to undo my mistake.
> >>
> >> If you haven't used a laptop with touchpad before, it can be quite 
> >> annoying.
> >>
> >> I have found two ways to deal with it. First, before typing, use the 
> >> touchpad to move the cursor arrow to a benign area of the screen, 
> >> such as a blank area in the toolbar or menu bar. Then continue 
> >> typing. If you brush the touchpad, nothing will happen.
> >>
> >> Also, in your computer settings, you can turn off the tapping feature 
> >> of the touchpad, so that you have to actually click the touchpad 
> >> buttons. I don't really like this solution as I find the touchpad tap 
> >> feature useful (when I actually want it.)
> >>
> >> Virgil
> >>
> >> -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:14 PM
> >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: Odd behavior in Writer
> >>
> >> My experience is that if the hand is resting on the laptop surface, 
> >> the touchpad can detect pressure on the case as movement.  The 
> >> symptoms are exactly as described.
> >>
> >> Try working with the hands not resting/pressing on the case. The USB 
> >> mouse is still a good idea, although it doesn't deactivate the 
> >> touchpad from side pressure responses.  (It removes one hand from 
> >> resting on the laptop case though [;<).
> >>
> >> - Dennis
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:42
> >> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Odd behavior in Writer
> >>
> >> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
> >> Dale Erwin  wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my
> >>> desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD
> >>> running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice
> >>> on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1. I think
> >>> my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I
> >>> mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this 
> >>> behaviour,
> >>> OOo or the new laptop.
> >>>
> >>> I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50
> >>> individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening: When I am
> >>> in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position
> >>> to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my
> >>> hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by
> >>> accident and not noticing.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom -> Variable 120%.  For
> >>> no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the
> >>> file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the
> >>> same time.
> >>>
> >>> This is very, very, very irritating.
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Dale Erwin,
> >>
> >> Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out 
> >> (or else OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have 
> >> been due to inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary 
> >> s

Re: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Dale Erwin
Well, it seems that the touchpad was not disabled after all.  Maybe it 
has to be done each time I turn the thing on.  I also have noticed now 
(didn't notice it before) that when the touchpad is tuned OFF, a small 
led lights up above it, so that should be a good indicator for me.  I 
sure hope this solves the problem because I've been tearing my hair out 
(and I can't afford to lose any more of that).


Dale Erwin
Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
http://leather.casaerwin.org

On 12/26/2012 7:22 PM, Dale Erwin wrote:

Rory and Dennis and Virgil, thanks but...

I had a laptop before but I did not use it much.  It was (and still 
is) my wife's machine) so I learned a long time ago that I can't 
tolerate the touchpad.  Since the first day I got this new laptop, I 
have been using a USB mouse and have the touchpad disabled.  However, 
now that I read so many similar reports, I've been deliberately trying 
to make the cursor move with the touchpad and it seems like it does 
still move the cursor around.


This just might be a deal breaker.  I also find that when typing 
messages here in this Firefox editor that the font size just changes 
all by itself while I'm typing.


Dale Erwin
Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
http://leather.casaerwin.org

On 12/26/2012 2:59 PM, VA wrote:

I feel confident that your touchpad is the culprit.

Sometimes, my touchpad will sense the slightest brush of my thumb. 
Sometimes, if I even slightly move my thumb over the pad, it will 
actually highlight text and as soon as I type another letter, it will 
replace all the selected text with my next letter. I then have to hit 
Ctrl-z to undo my mistake.


If you haven't used a laptop with touchpad before, it can be quite 
annoying.


I have found two ways to deal with it. First, before typing, use the 
touchpad to move the cursor arrow to a benign area of the screen, 
such as a blank area in the toolbar or menu bar. Then continue 
typing. If you brush the touchpad, nothing will happen.


Also, in your computer settings, you can turn off the tapping feature 
of the touchpad, so that you have to actually click the touchpad 
buttons. I don't really like this solution as I find the touchpad tap 
feature useful (when I actually want it.)


Virgil

-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:14 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Odd behavior in Writer

My experience is that if the hand is resting on the laptop surface, 
the touchpad can detect pressure on the case as movement.  The 
symptoms are exactly as described.


Try working with the hands not resting/pressing on the case. The USB 
mouse is still a good idea, although it doesn't deactivate the 
touchpad from side pressure responses.  (It removes one hand from 
resting on the laptop case though [;<).


- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:42
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Odd behavior in Writer

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:


I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my
desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD
running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice
on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1. I think
my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I
mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this 
behaviour,

OOo or the new laptop.

I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50
individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening: When I am
in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position
to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my
hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by
accident and not noticing.

Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom -> Variable 120%.  For
no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the
file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the
same time.

This is very, very, very irritating.

--
Dale Erwin,


Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out 
(or else OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have 
been due to inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary 
solution I suggest plugging in a USB mouse and covering the touchpad 
with a piece of heavy card, taped on, card thick enough to mask any 
touchpad contact.  This ought quickly establish if the culprit is the 
touchpad; if so, then you might adjust its settings to render it less 
sensitive. In doing this temporary masking, you haven't altered any 
settings, simply physically masked off the touchpad.








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Re: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Dale Erwin

Rory and Dennis and Virgil, thanks but...

I had a laptop before but I did not use it much.  It was (and still is) 
my wife's machine) so I learned a long time ago that I can't tolerate 
the touchpad.  Since the first day I got this new laptop, I have been 
using a USB mouse and have the touchpad disabled.  However, now that I 
read so many similar reports, I've been deliberately trying to make the 
cursor move with the touchpad and it seems like it does still move the 
cursor around.


This just might be a deal breaker.  I also find that when typing 
messages here in this Firefox editor that the font size just changes all 
by itself while I'm typing.


Dale Erwin
Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
http://leather.casaerwin.org

On 12/26/2012 2:59 PM, VA wrote:

I feel confident that your touchpad is the culprit.

Sometimes, my touchpad will sense the slightest brush of my thumb. 
Sometimes, if I even slightly move my thumb over the pad, it will 
actually highlight text and as soon as I type another letter, it will 
replace all the selected text with my next letter. I then have to hit 
Ctrl-z to undo my mistake.


If you haven't used a laptop with touchpad before, it can be quite 
annoying.


I have found two ways to deal with it. First, before typing, use the 
touchpad to move the cursor arrow to a benign area of the screen, such 
as a blank area in the toolbar or menu bar. Then continue typing. If 
you brush the touchpad, nothing will happen.


Also, in your computer settings, you can turn off the tapping feature 
of the touchpad, so that you have to actually click the touchpad 
buttons. I don't really like this solution as I find the touchpad tap 
feature useful (when I actually want it.)


Virgil

-Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:14 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Odd behavior in Writer

My experience is that if the hand is resting on the laptop surface, 
the touchpad can detect pressure on the case as movement.  The 
symptoms are exactly as described.


Try working with the hands not resting/pressing on the case.  The USB 
mouse is still a good idea, although it doesn't deactivate the 
touchpad from side pressure responses.  (It removes one hand from 
resting on the laptop case though [;<).


- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:42
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Odd behavior in Writer

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:


I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my
desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD
running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice
on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1. I think
my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I
mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this behaviour,
OOo or the new laptop.

I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50
individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening: When I am
in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position
to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my
hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by
accident and not noticing.

Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom -> Variable 120%.  For
no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the
file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the
same time.

This is very, very, very irritating.

--
Dale Erwin,


Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out 
(or else OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have 
been due to inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary 
solution I suggest plugging in a USB mouse and covering the touchpad 
with a piece of heavy card, taped on, card thick enough to mask any 
touchpad contact.  This ought quickly establish if the culprit is the 
touchpad; if so, then you might adjust its settings to render it less 
sensitive. In doing this temporary masking, you haven't altered any 
settings, simply physically masked off the touchpad.






Re: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread VA

I feel confident that your touchpad is the culprit.

Sometimes, my touchpad will sense the slightest brush of my thumb. 
Sometimes, if I even slightly move my thumb over the pad, it will actually 
highlight text and as soon as I type another letter, it will replace all the 
selected text with my next letter. I then have to hit Ctrl-z to undo my 
mistake.


If you haven't used a laptop with touchpad before, it can be quite annoying.

I have found two ways to deal with it. First, before typing, use the 
touchpad to move the cursor arrow to a benign area of the screen, such as a 
blank area in the toolbar or menu bar. Then continue typing. If you brush 
the touchpad, nothing will happen.


Also, in your computer settings, you can turn off the tapping feature of the 
touchpad, so that you have to actually click the touchpad buttons. I don't 
really like this solution as I find the touchpad tap feature useful (when I 
actually want it.)


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis E. Hamilton

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:14 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Odd behavior in Writer

My experience is that if the hand is resting on the laptop surface, the 
touchpad can detect pressure on the case as movement.  The symptoms are 
exactly as described.


Try working with the hands not resting/pressing on the case.  The USB mouse 
is still a good idea, although it doesn't deactivate the touchpad from side 
pressure responses.  (It removes one hand from resting on the laptop case 
though [;<).


- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:42
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Odd behavior in Writer

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:


I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my
desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD
running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice
on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1.  I think
my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I
mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this behaviour,
OOo or the new laptop.

I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50
individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening:  When I am
in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position
to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my
hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by
accident and not noticing.

Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom ->  Variable 120%.  For
no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the
file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the
same time.

This is very, very, very irritating.

--
Dale Erwin,


Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out (or 
else OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have been due 
to inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary solution I suggest 
plugging in a USB mouse and covering the touchpad with a piece of heavy 
card, taped on, card thick enough to mask any touchpad contact.  This ought 
quickly establish if the culprit is the touchpad; if so, then you might 
adjust its settings to render it less sensitive. In doing this temporary 
masking, you haven't altered any settings, simply physically masked off the 
touchpad.


--
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RE: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My experience is that if the hand is resting on the laptop surface, the 
touchpad can detect pressure on the case as movement.  The symptoms are exactly 
as described.

Try working with the hands not resting/pressing on the case.  The USB mouse is 
still a good idea, although it doesn't deactivate the touchpad from side 
pressure responses.  (It removes one hand from resting on the laptop case 
though [;<).

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 09:42
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Odd behavior in Writer

On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:

> I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my 
> desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD 
> running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice 
> on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1.  I think 
> my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I 
> mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this behaviour, 
> OOo or the new laptop.
> 
> I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50 
> individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening:  When I am 
> in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position 
> to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my 
> hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by 
> accident and not noticing.
> 
> Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom ->  Variable 120%.  For 
> no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the 
> file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the 
> same time.
> 
> This is very, very, very irritating.
> 
> -- 
> Dale Erwin,

Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out (or else 
OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have been due to 
inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary solution I suggest 
plugging in a USB mouse and covering the touchpad with a piece of heavy card, 
taped on, card thick enough to mask any touchpad contact.  This ought quickly 
establish if the culprit is the touchpad; if so, then you might adjust its 
settings to render it less sensitive. In doing this temporary masking, you 
haven't altered any settings, simply physically masked off the touchpad.

-- 
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Re: Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:33:04 -0500
Dale Erwin  wrote:

> I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my 
> desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD 
> running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice 
> on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1.  I think 
> my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I 
> mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this behaviour, 
> OOo or the new laptop.
> 
> I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50 
> individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening:  When I am 
> in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position 
> to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my 
> hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by 
> accident and not noticing.
> 
> Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom ->  Variable 120%.  For 
> no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the 
> file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the 
> same time.
> 
> This is very, very, very irritating.
> 
> -- 
> Dale Erwin,

Such behaviour was reported on the Forum when AOO 3.4 first came out (or else 
OOo 3.3 - I'm not certain).  It appeared as if it might have been due to 
inadvertent contact with the touchpad; as a temporary solution I suggest 
plugging in a USB mouse and covering the touchpad with a piece of heavy card, 
taped on, card thick enough to mask any touchpad contact.  This ought quickly 
establish if the culprit is the touchpad; if so, then you might adjust its 
settings to render it less sensitive. In doing this temporary masking, you 
haven't altered any settings, simply physically masked off the touchpad.

-- 
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Odd behavior in Writer

2012-12-26 Thread Dale Erwin
I have recently (last October) acquired a new laptop and got rid of my 
desktop.  It's a Dell with Intel quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD 
running Win 7 Home Premium.  I believe that when I installed OpenOffice 
on this machine it was the first time I had used version 3.4.1.  I think 
my desktop had 3.3 on it but I can't swear to that.  The reason I 
mention this, is that I'm not sure which is to blame for this behaviour, 
OOo or the new laptop.


I am editing my book manuscript which has a master file and over 50 
individual chapter files.  Anyway, this is what is happening:  When I am 
in the midst of editing a file, the cursor will jump from it's position 
to some other seemingly random position with no warning... even if my 
hands are not touching it, so I know it is not something I am doing by 
accident and not noticing.


Also, I keep all the files set at View -> Zoom ->  Variable 120%.  For 
no apparent reason, with no input from me, the size will change or the 
file will shift position in the window.Sometimes it does both at the 
same time.


This is very, very, very irritating.

--
Dale Erwin,
Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03
Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU
http://leather.casaerwin.org