Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Doug wrote:

I would prefer it even more if you got together with the Symphony people
and imported their nice user-friendly  interface!!


By the way, your wish is not far from reality. Symphony has now been 
discontinued. The former Symphony team is currently working on 
OpenOffice, integrating some interesting Symphony code: see

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/merging_lotus_symphony_allegro_moderato
for more.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Lewis

On 01/24/2013 03:29 PM, doug wrote:

On 01/24/2013 03:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:46:24PM -0500, doug wrote:

[doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ rpm -UVH
openoffice.org3.4-freedesktop-menus-3.4-9593.noarch.rpm
error: open of /usr/share/comps/i386/hdlist failed: No such file or
directory

Did you get the same the error trying with mandriva-menus?


Regards
You hit the nail on the head!  I should have tried that myself, but I 
was slavishly following instructions rather than using my head!
Everything is now copacetic.  I have the whole set of OO programs in 
my GUI menu, and they work--at least Writer does,
so I assume they all do.  This has been a long grind for each of us, 
and I am grateful for your help and your patience--all of

you who pitched in to help me.  Thank you very much!

(I still think you need an easier installation. It was not like this 
months ago when I installed the program on my desktop.)


--doug
 It is not all that complex. Some of steps could even be written as 
a script that you could run as a superuser.

1) Extract the AOO tar file.
2) Browse to the RPMS files using the command line.
3) As a superuser, enter this commandrpm -UVH *.rpm
4) Browse to the desktop-integration folder.
5) As a superuser, enter this commandrpm -UVH file>.rpm

6) Close the command line.
 This should be all that it takes to install AOO.

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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread doug

On 01/24/2013 03:13 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:57:02PM -0500, doug wrote:

The applications are launched by shell scripts in
/opt/openoffice.org3/program

Base: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase
Calc: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc
Draw: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw
Impress: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress
Math: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath
The StartCenter: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
Pritner admin.: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/spadmin
Writer: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

But better try installing the desktop-integration package.


Regards

I would like to install the desktop integration package,
but my previous post shows what happens when I do.

Now, trying to run any of the pieces of OO from a
command line doesn't work either, and I don't understand why.
The files are marked executable by anybody, but apparently
not by me--even from root.  Here'sa portion of the directory,
and the output:

-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   3916 Aug 13 10:43 soffice*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 soffice.bin*
-r--r--r-- 1 root root180 Aug 13 10:43 sofficerc
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2638 Aug 13 10:43 spadmin*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1002 Aug 13 10:40 swriter*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1618 Aug 13 10:43 unoinfo*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2834 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg.bin*
-r--r--r-- 1 root root467 Aug 13 10:43 versionrc
[root@Dell program]# soffice.bin
bash: soffice.bin: command not found
[root@Dell program]# soffice
bash: soffice: command not found
[root@Dell program]# swriter
bash: swriter: command not found

All these are missing the ./ before the script name, otherwise the
script is searched in /usr/bin $HOME/bin /usr/local/bin etc.

As this directory is not on the path, you have to use the full path to
the script:

/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

or, cd to the dictory containing the script, and execute the script
with dot slash script, for example ./swriter

cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
./swriter


Regards
Of course!  I just wasn't thinking of that.  anyway, as you see from my 
other message, everything is now working like it should.

Thank you all once again!

--doug

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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread doug

On 01/24/2013 03:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:46:24PM -0500, doug wrote:

[doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ rpm -UVH
openoffice.org3.4-freedesktop-menus-3.4-9593.noarch.rpm
error: open of /usr/share/comps/i386/hdlist failed: No such file or
directory

Did you get the same the error trying with mandriva-menus?


Regards
You hit the nail on the head!  I should have tried that myself, but I 
was slavishly following instructions rather than using my head!
Everything is now copacetic.  I have the whole set of OO programs in my 
GUI menu, and they work--at least Writer does,
so I assume they all do.  This has been a long grind for each of us, and 
I am grateful for your help and your patience--all of

you who pitched in to help me.  Thank you very much!

(I still think you need an easier installation. It was not like this 
months ago when I installed the program on my desktop.)


--doug

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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:57:02PM -0500, doug wrote:
> 
> >The applications are launched by shell scripts in
> >/opt/openoffice.org3/program
> >
> >Base: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase
> >Calc: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc
> >Draw: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw
> >Impress: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress
> >Math: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath
> >The StartCenter: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
> >Pritner admin.: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/spadmin
> >Writer: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter
> >
> >But better try installing the desktop-integration package.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> I would like to install the desktop integration package,
> but my previous post shows what happens when I do.
> 
> Now, trying to run any of the pieces of OO from a
> command line doesn't work either, and I don't understand why.
> The files are marked executable by anybody, but apparently
> not by me--even from root.  Here'sa portion of the directory,
> and the output:
> 
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   3916 Aug 13 10:43 soffice*
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 soffice.bin*
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root180 Aug 13 10:43 sofficerc
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2638 Aug 13 10:43 spadmin*
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1002 Aug 13 10:40 swriter*
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1618 Aug 13 10:43 unoinfo*
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2834 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg*
> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg.bin*
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root467 Aug 13 10:43 versionrc
> [root@Dell program]# soffice.bin
> bash: soffice.bin: command not found
> [root@Dell program]# soffice
> bash: soffice: command not found
> [root@Dell program]# swriter
> bash: swriter: command not found

All these are missing the ./ before the script name, otherwise the
script is searched in /usr/bin $HOME/bin /usr/local/bin etc.

As this directory is not on the path, you have to use the full path to
the script:

/opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

or, cd to the dictory containing the script, and execute the script
with dot slash script, for example ./swriter

cd /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
./swriter


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 02:46:24PM -0500, doug wrote:
> [doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ rpm -UVH
> openoffice.org3.4-freedesktop-menus-3.4-9593.noarch.rpm
> error: open of /usr/share/comps/i386/hdlist failed: No such file or
> directory

Did you get the same the error trying with mandriva-menus?


Regards
-- 
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La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread doug



The applications are launched by shell scripts in
/opt/openoffice.org3/program

Base: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase
Calc: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc
Draw: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw
Impress: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress
Math: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath
The StartCenter: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
Pritner admin.: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/spadmin
Writer: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

But better try installing the desktop-integration package.


Regards

I would like to install the desktop integration package,
but my previous post shows what happens when I do.

Now, trying to run any of the pieces of OO from a
command line doesn't work either, and I don't understand why.
The files are marked executable by anybody, but apparently
not by me--even from root.  Here'sa portion of the directory,
and the output:

-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   3916 Aug 13 10:43 soffice*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 soffice.bin*
-r--r--r-- 1 root root180 Aug 13 10:43 sofficerc
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2638 Aug 13 10:43 spadmin*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1002 Aug 13 10:40 swriter*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   1618 Aug 13 10:43 unoinfo*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   2834 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg*
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root   9672 Aug 13 10:43 unopkg.bin*
-r--r--r-- 1 root root467 Aug 13 10:43 versionrc
[root@Dell program]# soffice.bin
bash: soffice.bin: command not found
[root@Dell program]# soffice
bash: soffice: command not found
[root@Dell program]# swriter
bash: swriter: command not found

--doug

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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread doug

On 01/24/2013 06:09 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Doug,

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:48:17AM -0500, Doug wrote:

Reminder: I'm running PCLinuxOS-KDE.

I once again extracted the downloaded file 
"Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz"
which created a tremendous batch of rpms in a subsubdirectory /en-US/RPMS.
 From that directory, ran the code:rpm -Uvh *.rpm
which created a batch of ooo2* files.
I could not extract any /desktop-integration RPMS--even the mandriva
one, which I thought would work, since PCLOS
is a derivative of Mandriva. Error message was  "Can't create
transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/_db000 (no such file or directory)"

Try creating that directory as superuser

su -
mkdir -p /var/lib/rpm/

Then cd desktop-integration/ and install the freedesktop-menus package,
it is likely to work on every modern distribution.



None of the OpenOffice programs (writer, calc, etc) appear in the
PCLOS GUI menu, which they do on this machine.
I have looked in Synaptic, and all the files are the same in both
machines and listed as installed.

You can always run the programs from the command line


I don't know how to get any of the OO files to appear on the desktop
or to run.  One of the problems is that I have
no idea what the names of the executable files are, or where they
are located.

The applications are launched by shell scripts in
/opt/openoffice.org3/program

Base: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase
Calc: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc
Draw: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw
Impress: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress
Math: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath
The StartCenter: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
Pritner admin.: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/spadmin
Writer: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

But better try installing the desktop-integration package.


Regards

I made the /var/lib/rpm directory, as per instructions.and tried to run
the freedesktop file.  It complained about not finding _db.000,
so I made that. Here's the /var/lib/rpm directory:

[doug@Dell ~]$ cd /var/lib/rpm
[doug@Dell rpm]$ sudo mkdir _db.000
Password:
[doug@Dell rpm]$ ls -la
total 57320
drwxr-xr-x  5 rpm  rpm  4096 Jan 24 14:29 ./
drwxr-xr-x 49 root root 4096 Jan 19 07:19 ../
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Jan 19 07:17 alternatives/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 10625024 Jan 24 01:48 Basenames
-rw-r--r--  1 root root12288 Jan 19 07:19 Conflictname
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Jan 24 14:29 _db.000/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  2506752 Jan 24 01:48 Dirnames
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 10452992 Jan 24 01:48 Filedigests
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 Nov 23 11:38 filetriggers/
-rw-r--r--  1 root root49152 Jan 24 01:48 Group
-rw-r--r--  1 root root40960 Jan 24 01:48 Installtid
-rw-r--r--  1 root root90112 Jan 24 01:48 Name
-rw-r--r--  1 root root45056 Jan 23 15:30 Obsoletename
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 36610048 Jan 24 01:48 Packages
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  1273856 Jan 24 01:48 Providename
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   229376 Jan 24 01:48 Provideversion
-rw-r--r--  1 root root12288 Jun 26  2012 Pubkeys
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   577536 Jan 24 01:48 Requirename
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   335872 Jan 24 01:48 Requireversion
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   167936 Jan 24 01:48 Sha1header
-rw-r--r--  1 root root90112 Jan 24 01:48 Sigmd5
-rw-r--r--  1 root root12288 Jan 24 01:44 Triggername

The _db.000 subsub directory is empty.  After I created it,
I tried the freedesktop rpm again, and got this:

[doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ rpm -UVH 
openoffice.org3.4-freedesktop-menus-3.4-9593.noarch.rpm
error: open of /usr/share/comps/i386/hdlist failed: No such file or 
directory


And there is not even part of that tree:

[doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ cd /usr/share/comps/i386
bash: cd: /usr/share/comps/i386: No such file or directory
[doug@Dell desktop-integration]$ cd /usr/share/comps
bash: cd: /usr/share/comps: No such file or directory

There is, of courxe, /usr/share.

Thank you for your patience.  Now what?

--doug


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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Doug,

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:48:17AM -0500, Doug wrote:
> Reminder: I'm running PCLinuxOS-KDE.
> 
> I once again extracted the downloaded file 
> "Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz"
> which created a tremendous batch of rpms in a subsubdirectory /en-US/RPMS.
> From that directory, ran the code:rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> which created a batch of ooo2* files.
> I could not extract any /desktop-integration RPMS--even the mandriva
> one, which I thought would work, since PCLOS
> is a derivative of Mandriva. Error message was  "Can't create
> transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/_db000 (no such file or directory)"

Try creating that directory as superuser

su -
mkdir -p /var/lib/rpm/

Then cd desktop-integration/ and install the freedesktop-menus package,
it is likely to work on every modern distribution.


> None of the OpenOffice programs (writer, calc, etc) appear in the
> PCLOS GUI menu, which they do on this machine.
> I have looked in Synaptic, and all the files are the same in both
> machines and listed as installed.

You can always run the programs from the command line

> I don't know how to get any of the OO files to appear on the desktop
> or to run.  One of the problems is that I have
> no idea what the names of the executable files are, or where they
> are located.

The applications are launched by shell scripts in
/opt/openoffice.org3/program

Base: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sbase
Calc: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/scalc
Draw: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/sdraw
Impress: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/simpress
Math: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/smath
The StartCenter: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
Pritner admin.: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/spadmin
Writer: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

But better try installing the desktop-integration package.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Fwd: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Doug

/snip/

Quote:
You should then download an RPM version from
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
and install using the instructions at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#linux-rpm
End qoute.

 As I mentioned in a post you will see at time = 3:48AM, I have downloaded and extracted 
the file mentioned, and run all the commands in the "common instructions" 
except number 8, which won't run.
Those are the Desktop-integration rpms, and they all produce an error on my 
PCLOS system.

It's too late to try the arrangement of running the rpms in Synaptic--they're 
extracted already, and the extracted rpm files now appear in Synaptic, and 
appear installed.

Please refer to the 3:48 post for more detail.  If you'd like me to post 
anything from the system, please advise.


--doug




I accept the OP's statement that PCLOS uses Synaptic; online information is 
confusing about this.  Some information I haveseen suggests that PCLOS's 
Synaptic is set by default to delete RPM files, but that there is a setting 
which overrides this on a case by case basis. Some information on this is given 
at this URL, which may now be out of date in its OpenOffice references

http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-pclinuxos-2010-kde-p4





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Re: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Doug

Reminder: I'm running PCLinuxOS-KDE.

I once again extracted the downloaded file 
"Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz"

which created a tremendous batch of rpms in a subsubdirectory /en-US/RPMS.
From that directory, ran the code:rpm -Uvh *.rpm
which created a batch of ooo2* files.
I could not extract any /desktop-integration RPMS--even the mandriva 
one, which I thought would work, since PCLOS
is a derivative of Mandriva. Error message was  "Can't create 
transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/_db000 (no such file or directory)"


None of the OpenOffice programs (writer, calc, etc) appear in the PCLOS 
GUI menu, which they do on this machine.
I have looked in Synaptic, and all the files are the same in both 
machines and listed as installed.


I don't know how to get any of the OO files to appear on the desktop or 
to run.  One of the problems is that I have
no idea what the names of the executable files are, or where they are 
located.


I'm stuck.  Please advise.
--doug

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Re: Fwd: Latest Open Office install

2013-01-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:21:39 -0500
Doug  wrote:

> On 01/23/2013 03:02 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:42:16 -0500
> > Doug  wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/23/2013 02:10 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:46:59 -0500
> >>> Doug  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 01/23/2013 09:53 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 07:30:50AM -0600, Art Pederson wrote:
> >> Hope someone can help Doug out.
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Doug 
> >>> Date: 22 January, 2013 9:57:56 PM CST
> >>> To: Art Pederson 
> >>> Subject: Latest Open Office install
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Art--
> >>>
> >>> I sent a message to the mailing list, but have gotten no answer.
> > I haven't found any thread started by you on this subject.
> >
> >>> I downloaded OO, in a compacted file--
> >>>Apache...x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
> >>> I had never seen an rpm packaged inside a tar file before, but
> >>> I unzipped it, and now I have rpms all over the place, as well as
> >>> a directory of Apache advertising.
> > If you downloaded from http://www.openoffice.org/download then there is
> > no advertising at all, this must be the readme and license.
> >
> >>> Is there any way to simply install this thing?  I never had this
> >>> problem when I downloaded it many months ago, but now I
> >>> want to put it on another machine, and I have this mess.
> > It depends on the Linux distribution you are using. I assume you are not
> > using Ubuntu or any other distro using DEBs, as you downloaded RPMs.
> > Some Linux distro require manual tweaking, so please let us know the
> > distro you are using.
> >
> >
> > Regards
>  I was not aware that PCLOS seems to have OO in the repos now--
>  it is called ooobasis* so I will try and delete all the stuff that I
>  downloaded
>  from Apache and try and install this and see what happens.
>  I will report back.
> 
>  --doug
> 
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> 
> >>> My quick check suggests that PCLOS uses LibreOffice.  While it is 
> >>> possible to install Apache OpenOffice in parallel with LibreOffice, my 
> >>> experience with Ubuntu is that if one wants a quiet life without the 
> >>> necessary tweaking one should entirely remove LibreOffice _before_ 
> >>> installing Apache OpenOffice.  In Ubuntu this is best done by using 
> >>> Synaptic (their package manager) to remove libreoffice-core*.  In PCLOS 
> >>> this might be done with Yum, but your experience with PCLOS will direct 
> >>> you better than my supposition.
> >>>
> >>> You should then download an RPM version from
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
> >>> and install using the instructions at
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#linux-rpm
> >>>
> >> As I mentioned in my last post, it appears that PCLOS finally has OO in
> >> the repos.
> >> I already had downloaded the archive at the link you posted, and that's
> >> what
> >> started this problem.  You need to  get rid of the tar.gz and just have ONE
> >> rpm. that installs the whole thing.  But hopefully I can find and remove 
> >> the
> >> mess that this download created and load from Synaptic (not YUM).
> >> Will report results.
> >>
> > I honestly do not think PCLOS uses Synaptic, if it uses RPM packages.
> >
> I have posted another message, set just before this one, that indicates that
> PCLOS does NOT, in fact, have OO in the repos.  However, I guarantee you
> that PCLOS uses Synaptic--I have been using this distro for almost 2 years
> and that's the only means I know of to install something that's in the repo.
> What's not in the repo, I can install from an RPM. or from source, and I
> have done both.
> 
I accept the OP's statement that PCLOS uses Synaptic; online information is 
confusing about this.  Some information I haveseen suggests that PCLOS's 
Synaptic is set by default to delete RPM files, but that there is a setting 
which overrides this on a case by case basis. Some information on this is given 
at this URL, which may now be out of date in its OpenOffice references

http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-pclinuxos-2010-kde-p4


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