Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use
> an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF


Rory,

There is a fundamental misconception here. A PDF is NOT a bitmap. A PDF,
more often than not, contains the TEXT inside, not a picture (bitmap) of
the page requiring OCR to extact the text.

That is on PROPERLY CREATED PDF files. I've seen lots of people who don't
know what they're doing that just "scan pages and build a PDF". In those
instances, YES, the PDF doesn't contain searchable text, just bitmaps
(images) of every page. But that's not a properly created PDF file to begin
with.

FC


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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Julian Thomas

On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:40, Maurice Howe  wrote:

>> How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

There seem to be [at least] two types of PDF files.

One are essentially scanned images.

The others are formatted text files that can be converted to .doc or .txt by 
either Adobe [full pop; not the free adobe reader] or a number of websites that 
do free file conversions.  If you can copy and paste from the PDF, you are most 
ways there on your own.

There are web sites that purport to convert scanned images to text files, but 
they seem to be finicky on the scanned image; I've not had good luck with these.

hth - jt
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Dave.Mainwaring
I use Google drive for conversion.{Not the desktop version.} I copy or
upload the file directly to Google drive.
https://drive.google.com/

Then I select convert and down load, choose the type of file wanted, then
download.

{more button}
Convert and Download
Choose how you want to download each kind of file:
Change all formats to:   MS Office  -  Open Office  -  PDF




On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Allen Schaaf, CISSP <
netsecur...@sound-by-design.com> wrote:

> There is another another possible solution that works for me when I get a
> PDF: FreeOCR
>
> This free OCR software uses the Tesseract OCR engine. Tesseract OCR code
> was developed at HP Labs between 1985 and 1995 and is currently with
> Google. It is thought of as one of the most accurate open source OCR
> engines available. Works very well for me both for PDFs and images.
>
> Allen
>
> On 11/29/2013 12:18 PM, Clarence Weaver wrote:
>
>> Maurice,
>>
>> Another alternative to the last two options is to "save the PDF as a text
>> file from the free Adobe Reader XI.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Clarence
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks to Brian & Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find the
>>> original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan the
>>> PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> Maurice
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
>>> "Maurice Howe"  wrote:
>>>
>>>  How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

 Cheers,
 Maurice Howe

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Allen Schaaf, CISSP
There is another another possible solution that works for me when 
I get a PDF: FreeOCR


This free OCR software uses the Tesseract OCR engine. Tesseract 
OCR code was developed at HP Labs between 1985 and 1995 and is 
currently with Google. It is thought of as one of the most 
accurate open source OCR engines available. Works very well for 
me both for PDFs and images.


Allen

On 11/29/2013 12:18 PM, Clarence Weaver wrote:

Maurice,

Another alternative to the last two options is to "save the PDF as a text
file from the free Adobe Reader XI.

Cheers,
Clarence


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe  wrote:


Thanks to Brian & Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find the
original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan the
PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.

Thanks again!

Maurice

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
"Maurice Howe"  wrote:


How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?

Cheers,
Maurice Howe



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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Maurice Howe
Yes, thanks.  I'd already tried that (with moderate success).  The
newsletter editor is sending me her MS Publisher ".pub" file, so I'm in good
shape.

Maurice


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Subject: Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

Maurice,

Another alternative to the last two options is to "save the PDF as a text
file from the free Adobe Reader XI.

Cheers,
Clarence


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe  wrote:

> Thanks to Brian & Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find the 
> original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan 
> the PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Maurice
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
> "Maurice Howe"  wrote:
>
> > How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maurice Howe
>
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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Clarence Weaver
Maurice,

Another alternative to the last two options is to "save the PDF as a text
file from the free Adobe Reader XI.

Cheers,
Clarence


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Maurice Howe  wrote:

> Thanks to Brian & Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find the
> original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan the
> PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Maurice
>
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
> "Maurice Howe"  wrote:
>
> > How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Maurice Howe
>
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RE: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Maurice Howe
Thanks to Brian & Rory for their help.  They gave 4 answers: find the
original DOC/ODT/etc file, use the PDF-to-DRAW facility of AOO, scan the
PDF, or hammer on the keyboard.  

Thanks again!

Maurice

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
"Maurice Howe"  wrote:

> How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
>  
> Cheers,
> Maurice Howe


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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 14:50:39 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
> "Maurice Howe"  wrote:
> 
> > How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
> >  
> > Cheers,
> > Maurice Howe
> 
> For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
> Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to 
> use an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the 
> OCR into OpenOffice.
> 

I forgot to add that this is not a trivial task for a document of any length, 
particularly if you have never done it before. Don't start this task against a 
deadline.

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Re: PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:15:15 -0500
"Maurice Howe"  wrote:

> How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
>  
> Cheers,
> Maurice Howe

For minor edits OpenOffice's PDF import extension will allow it be edited in 
Draw. For major edits (such as relayout or rewrite of the text) you need to use 
an OCR utility to read the text in the PDF then import the text from the OCR 
into OpenOffice.



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PDF-to-ODT conversion

2013-11-29 Thread Maurice Howe
How do I convert a PDF to ODT (or DOC) so that I can edit it?
 
Cheers,
Maurice Howe