Re: Reminder: List Conduct Guidelines

2014-01-08 Thread Richard Driscoll
I have in subscribed twice in the last week without effect. Please remove my 
email address from the list. I am no longer using the software. 
richard.drisco...@icloud.com
Thank you
Richard

Richard Driscoll
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 On 8 Jan 2014, at 02:30, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 Intructions for how to unsubscribe are in the footer of every post to
 this mailing list, including this one ;-)
 
 If for some reason this is not working for you, send me a note off-line.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Carmen Putrino carmenputr...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 I can't get myself off this list.  I want out!  You are fucking driving me
 crazy!!
 
 Carmen Putrino
 805.807.4269
 carmenputr...@yahoo.com
 
 On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mr. Weir,
 
 You lost the ability to moderate my behavior on this list when you went
 after me for stating law and policy, saying I was threatening someone when I
 was not. You cannot threaten someone with the law. The law is. The
 consequences exist for illegal activity and that which violates the user's
 ISP policy. You have chilled free speech on this list.
 
 The moderators, collectively, have allowed this list to get so out of hand,
 I am amazed that any questions get answered. Instead of learning the
 program, I am spending time trying to get you to do your jobs and ensure
 this is a safe place for people to post questions that may sound stupid, as
 people learn the program.
 
 Please furnish me with the name and email address of the people who choose
 moderators on this list.
 
 Also, while there is no right to post on this list, there is a set of
 assumptions based on this product being an open source project that is
 freely available. Hence your statement about posting on this list being a
 privilege is both specious and misleading. Likely you meant it that way.
 It is wholly disingenuous to support an open source/free product and then
 say that everyone on this list doesn’t have the right to be here. It is not
 in keeping with the apache or open source projects.
 
 When a moderator so greatly misspeaks, it is no wonder that the users on
 this list are at each other's throats.
 
 Brenda Hart Neihouse
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:53 PM
 Cc: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Reminder: List Conduct Guidelines
 
 Andrea suggested that we post a link to this in the footer of each
 message.  That is something we can do, but for now I'd like to remind
 us all of it:
 
 http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct.html
 
 Remember, no one has a right to post on this list.  It is a privilege.
 To the extent any person's or persons' conduct becomes disruptive of
 the purpose of this list (supporting users of Apache OpenOffice) this
 privilege can be revoked.
 
 This is an administrative note.  It does not require a response.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 Apache OpenOffice Project Management Committee  Mailing List Moderator
 
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Re: All essay text turned to hashtags

2014-01-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 09:11:38 -0500
Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
  I've added your suggestion Roband Steve Ahlers to a draft document. I'll 
  wait in case of more input and then we can consider a short questionaire 
  and revise the wording.
 
 
 
 One further idea on this:   I can turn this into the form of a survey
 on http://survey.openoffice.org, using LimeSurvey.  If we do that then
 we can point users to that URL (after trying to help them, of course)
 to collect this level of additional detail.  If we do this then the
 information is collected all in one place.
 
 -Rob

That's a very good idea, Rob. It simplifies the workload for the active 
developers/advicates of OpenOffice and builds a database.

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Re: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread Peter Junge
Please calm down! The only result of fueling the fire of such 
discussions will be that users, who are solely interested in finding 
support here, will leave.


Peter

On 01/08/2014 10:44 PM, TN Patriot wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:


The fact that...


   You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone 
disagrees
   with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're one of 
those
   'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing about 
law
   and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in any 
way you
   deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have - 
threats of
   censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you can
   scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been around
   people like you for a long time.

   By the way, that's *your* prerogative to be exposed to the world by putting 
your
   name out there on the internet, no one's accused you of being intelligent 
yet. Me,
   I don't put mine out there because it's unnecessary and I don't fall for 
baseless
   and petulent little barbs like that particular kind. Have you told 
*everyone* you
   e-mail, interact with on forums/websites, and any other way on the internet 
to
   expose their real names so anyone on the planet can get information about 
them,
   whether you like them or not? Yeah, I didn't think so.




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Re: Restored Documents

2014-01-08 Thread Ernie Kurtz
Rob,

I appreciate your thorough answers, from which I often learn much.  But on this 
one, I use OO 4.0.0, and there is no Options choice under Tools. Can you 
tell me, please, where I might find it?  Thanks.

ernie kurtz
ernestkurtz.com 

On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

 
 Another thing to try is to open Writer, go to
 Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Paths and note the location of the backup
 directory.  Check that directory and see if there is anything there
 that looks right.


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Re: Restored Documents

2014-01-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 11:01:21 -0500
Ernie Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu wrote:

 Rob,
 
 I appreciate your thorough answers, from which I often learn much.  But on 
 this one, I use OO 4.0.0, and there is no Options choice under Tools. Can 
 you tell me, please, where I might find it?  Thanks.
 
 ernie kurtz
 ernestkurtz.com 
 
 On Jan 7, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
  
  Another thing to try is to open Writer, go to
  Tools/Options/OpenOffice/Paths and note the location of the backup
  directory.  Check that directory and see if there is anything there
  that looks right.

If you are using a Mac, Options is under Preferences.

-- 
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Re: Restored Documents

2014-01-08 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2014-01-08, 10:01 AM Ernie Kurtz wrote:

I appreciate your thorough answers, from which I often learn much.  But on this one, I use OO 
4.0.0, and there is no Options choice under Tools. Can you tell me, please, 
where I might find it?  Thanks.


On Macs look in OpenOffice/Preferences.

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Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
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RE: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread Jim Parkhurst
Ya' know, all of this bantering has become LONG past being something to attempt 
to read. Please go to your respective corners and stop this nonsense. Or the 
list risks the possibility of losing lurkers - such as myself - to mindless 
bantering that has long since lost its appeal of anything relevant.

Jim Parkhurst
Jim.Parkhurst(at)TXDOT[dot]GOV
Work Hours = 07:00-16:00 [Central]


-Original Message-
From: Think [mailto:thinkta...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:29 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Reminder on list policy

irgu...@gmail.com

https://www.mail-archive.com/slackbuilds-users@slackbuilds.org/msg08961.html

http://slackware.org.uk/slackbuilds.org/14.0/academic/convertall/convertall.SlackBuild


John Berger, you already put your name on the internet. So you have already 
exercised that prerogative. Why not be a human and put it on here?

It would be one thing if you weren't attacking anyone. But here in the US, we 
have this thing about facing the people who are persecuting us.

It's only bullies that hide. If you have nothing at stake, for instance your 
good name, you have no reason to behave yourself.

And yes, I am all for people protecting their privacy ESPECIALLY if they are in 
a forum where people are hostile and bulling is de rigeur and acceptable.

Brenda Hart Neihouse

PS: about the do as I say comment: you have no idea if I do or do not do as I 
say. So that's an entirely false argument. If you want to know, you would have 
to talk to my daughter or any of the people I work with or work for. You might 
also talk to the people for whom I have advocacated. Right, you don't have 
access to any of those people. So you made an assumption from what data? 
Another personal attack.


-Original Message-
From: TN Patriot [mailto:irgu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:44 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Reminder on list policy

On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:

 The fact that...

  You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone 
disagrees
  with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're one of 
those
  'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing about 
law
  and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in any way 
you
  deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have - 
threats of
  censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you can
  scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been around
  people like you for a long time.

  By the way, that's *your* prerogative to be exposed to the world by putting 
your
  name out there on the internet, no one's accused you of being intelligent 
yet. Me,
  I don't put mine out there because it's unnecessary and I don't fall for 
baseless
  and petulent little barbs like that particular kind. Have you told *everyone* 
you
  e-mail, interact with on forums/websites, and any other way on the internet to
  expose their real names so anyone on the planet can get information about 
them,
  whether you like them or not? Yeah, I didn't think so.


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Re: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:44:26AM -0600, TN Patriot wrote:
 On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
 Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The fact that...
 
   You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone 
 disagrees
   with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're one of 
 those
   'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing about 
 law
   and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in any 
 way you
   deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have - 
 threats of
   censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you can
   scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been 
 around
   people like you for a long time.

He/she is exhibiting typical troll behavior. They will drag the thread
out as long as possible. They want as many replies as they can get. It's
an ego trip. Hence the frequent warning don't feed the trolls. I do
have to admit that this one's good. He/she is more irritating than most.
If it keeps up I really wish the moderators would do something about it.

BTW, I say he/she because a troll can always mask their
identity/gender. 

 ...snip..

-- 
Bob Holtzman
Your mail is being read by tight lipped 
NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor 
Strangelove 
Key ID 8D549279


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Re: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread John Meyer

On 1/8/2014 1:47 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:44:26AM -0600, TN Patriot wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:


The fact that...

   You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone 
disagrees
   with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're one of 
those
   'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing about 
law
   and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in any 
way you
   deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have - 
threats of
   censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you can
   scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been around
   people like you for a long time.

He/she is exhibiting typical troll behavior. They will drag the thread
out as long as possible. They want as many replies as they can get. It's
an ego trip. Hence the frequent warning don't feed the trolls. I do
have to admit that this one's good. He/she is more irritating than most.
If it keeps up I really wish the moderators would do something about it.

BTW, I say he/she because a troll can always mask their
identity/gender.


Best response is typically a good plonking.







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Re: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread Alan B
+1 to BHN regarding her desire for a civil list that provides supportive
direction to people seeking help and one on which asking a question doesn't
open the poster to incivil responses.


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Brian Waldner bhwald...@gmail.com wrote:

 Delete!




 On Jan 8, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:

  On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:44:26AM -0600, TN Patriot wrote:
  On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
  Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The fact that...
 
   You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when someone
 disagrees
   with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're
 one of those
   'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing
 about law
   and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in
 any way you
   deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have
 - threats of
   censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe you
 can
   scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have been
 around
   people like you for a long time.
 
  He/she is exhibiting typical troll behavior. They will drag the thread
  out as long as possible. They want as many replies as they can get. It's
  an ego trip. Hence the frequent warning don't feed the trolls. I do
  have to admit that this one's good. He/she is more irritating than most.
  If it keeps up I really wish the moderators would do something about it.
 
  BTW, I say he/she because a troll can always mask their
  identity/gender.
 
  ...snip..
 
  --
  Bob Holtzman
  Your mail is being read by tight lipped
  NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor
  Strangelove
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Re: Next steps for the AOO users list

2014-01-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 I just want to make sure that you all know that we're not ignoring
 this list and its recent troubles.  The PMC is taking this very
 seriously and discussing what actions to take.  This discussion may
 take another day or two. Once done we'll act but also have clearer
 procedures in place for how to act more swiftly in the future.

 So please, bear with us a little longer.  We'll be back to normal soon.


OK.  It is done.  Thanks for bearing with us as we worked this out.
Hopefully we can now get back to helping OpenOffice users!

Regards,

-Rob

 For anyone new to the list who is not familiar with the PMC, you can
 read more here:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#pmc

 Regards,

 -Rob

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A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

2014-01-08 Thread e-letter
Readers,

Occasionally read this mailing list; this time was amazed and amused
at the recent nonsense occurring.

For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the digest
mode. You receive a delayed, single combined message of a group of
messages. It is an easy and convenient way to avoid the nonsense
polluting your e-mail inbox.

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RE: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

2014-01-08 Thread Maurice Howe
Ummm.  And I can do that how?? 

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
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Readers,

Occasionally read this mailing list; this time was amazed and amused at the
recent nonsense occurring.

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You receive a delayed, single combined message of a group of messages. It is
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Re: Next steps for the AOO users list

2014-01-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Maurice Howe maur...@stny.rr.com wrote:
 Eh?
 What's done?
 Is there a report or something we should see?


I'm not going to call out names.  Those affected have been notified.
They are now unable to post to this list, though they can remain
subscribed if they want to read posts.  They are also welcome to
submit support questions to the OpenOffice Community Forum [1]. So no
one has been denied the ability to get free community support for
OpenOffice.  If anyone feels they were unfairly treated they are
welcome to escalate to the PMC at priv...@openoffice.apache.org.

In the future I would not expect things to carry on this long, nor for
there to be a need for a report.  Moderators are empowered to ban
disruptive users.  We're also adding more moderators for this list, so
there is ample coverage across time zones.

We should all appreciate that there are over 500 subscribers to this
mailing list.   Staying on-topic, brief, and focused on the purpose of
this list (OpenOffice user technical issues) is a necessary discipline
for ensuring a pleasant experience for us all.

Regards,

-Rob

[1] https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/

 Maurice Howe (a dedicated AOO user, but a weary blog follower)

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:46 PM
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Next steps for the AOO users list

 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 I just want to make sure that you all know that we're not ignoring
 this list and its recent troubles.  The PMC is taking this very
 seriously and discussing what actions to take.  This discussion may
 take another day or two. Once done we'll act but also have clearer
 procedures in place for how to act more swiftly in the future.

 So please, bear with us a little longer.  We'll be back to normal soon.


 OK.  It is done.  Thanks for bearing with us as we worked this out.
 Hopefully we can now get back to helping OpenOffice users!

 Regards,

 -Rob

 For anyone new to the list who is not familiar with the PMC, you can
 read more here:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html#pmc

 Regards,

 -Rob

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Re: Reminder on list policy

2014-01-08 Thread Linda Hull
In the 1980s and more in the 90s, Unix and Linux developers began the
'Developer Attitude'  - We know it all and you are just too stupid to find
it out yet. Go read the (curse word) manual, you misbegotten worm!

Sadly, this attitude became the Cool thing to do, continuing in many Help
forums, Email, and on IRC.

We are only now, in the 21st Century, coming to realize that this attitude,
albeit in long-time practice by many, isn't such a good idea.

Users want reasonable attitudes from helpers.

There are more alternatives now than ever before. A person doesn't have to
take endless abuse to get (or give) help.

In fact, if helpers and forum managers will take the time to be pleasant
and listen, and reply decently to normal user's questions, they will be
rewarded with increased activity and usually more people using and enjoying
the product.

I mentioned IRC because the Irc.Freenode.Org #OpenOffice channel is often
empty of helpers and if anyone feels like answering a few question he or
she might be able to please a lot of people.

Thank you everyone for providing assistance to all users of Apache
OpenOffice.


Linda






On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Alan B abo...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 to BHN regarding her desire for a civil list that provides supportive
 direction to people seeking help and one on which asking a question doesn't
 open the poster to incivil responses.


 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Brian Waldner bhwald...@gmail.com wrote:

  Delete!
 
 
 
 
  On Jan 8, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote:
 
   On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 08:44:26AM -0600, TN Patriot wrote:
   On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:47:54 -0500
   Think thinkta...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   The fact that...
  
You go on, and on, and on, and on, blathering and whining when
 someone
  disagrees
with you, yet anything you seem to want to say is just fine. You're
  one of those
'do as I say, not as I do' types. That's the reason you start spewing
  about law
and censoring and threatening the moment anyone disagrees with you in
  any way you
deem not stroking your ego nicely or softly enough. It's all you have
  - threats of
censorhip, laws, getting someone shut down, yada yada. You believe
 you
  can
scare-tactic people with your threats, but I don't scare and have
 been
  around
people like you for a long time.
  
   He/she is exhibiting typical troll behavior. They will drag the thread
   out as long as possible. They want as many replies as they can get.
 It's
   an ego trip. Hence the frequent warning don't feed the trolls. I do
   have to admit that this one's good. He/she is more irritating than
 most.
   If it keeps up I really wish the moderators would do something about
 it.
  
   BTW, I say he/she because a troll can always mask their
   identity/gender.
  
   ...snip..
  
   --
   Bob Holtzman
   Your mail is being read by tight lipped
   NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor
   Strangelove
   Key ID 8D549279
 
 
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OpenOffice 3.2.1

2014-01-08 Thread Les Brown

Friends,
I am trying to do some work with this version of OpenOffice.
After down loading and using the Draw programme, I was able to use  
the Fontwork tool bar, which would appear when selected in the View  
menu.


However since that first occasion the Toolbar will not appear when  
being selected.



I am using Mac OS 10.4.11

Thank you for any advice you may offer.  :-)

Les Brown

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how to uninstall open office

2014-01-08 Thread Tiphaine Beausseron
Hi there,

I would like to uninstall my current version of openoffice and then download 
the new one. But How can Uninstall it ? I am on Mac OS XX.

Cheers
Tiphaine Beausseron
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Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1

2014-01-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
The fontwork toolbar is only available on Writer, Draw uses some other
tools but no fontwork.

On 1/8/14, Les Brown les.knocka...@talktalk.net wrote:
 Friends,
 I am trying to do some work with this version of OpenOffice.
 After down loading and using the Draw programme, I was able to use
 the Fontwork tool bar, which would appear when selected in the View
 menu.

 However since that first occasion the Toolbar will not appear when
 being selected.


 I am using Mac OS 10.4.11

 Thank you for any advice you may offer.  :-)

 Les Brown

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Re: how to uninstall open office

2014-01-08 Thread Larry Gusaas



On 2014-01-08, 5:57 AM Tiphaine Beausseron wrote concerning how to uninstall open 
office:

I would like to uninstall my current version of openoffice and then download 
the new one. But How can Uninstall it ? I am on Mac OS XX.


You uninstall it the same way you uninstall most applications on a Mac.
Open Finder and go to your Applications folder.
Right click on OpenOffice.app
Click on Move to Trash

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sending resume using open office

2014-01-08 Thread jcishome
To whom it may concern,
My name is John, I have been using open office for some time now and fine it as 
good or better than windows office.
I have a problem with  AOO, every time I send a resume to a potential employer, 
it always comes back.  What is the problem
I am having ?  I always need to move to the laptop, where I have saved Word for 
this occasion and then send the document.
Please tell me what the answer to this problem is.  I can not find it.  Thank 
you.  John   Please reply to jcish...@suddenlink.net
Thank you and may God Bless

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Re: sending resume using open office

2014-01-08 Thread Keith N. McKenna
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jcish...@suddenlink.net wrote:
 To whom it may concern, My name is John, I have been using open 
 office for some time now and fine it as good or better than
 windows office. I have a problem with  AOO, every time I send a
 resume to a potential employer, it always comes back.  What is the
 problem I am having ?  I always need to move to the laptop, where I
 have saved Word for this occasion and then send the document.
 Please tell me what the answer to this problem is.  I can not find
 it.  Thank you. John   Please reply to jcish...@suddenlink.net
 Thank you and may God Bless
 
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Jcishome;

Most employers in the United States want resumes in either Microsoft
Word or PDF format. If you are sending an Open Document Test (.odt)
file from OpenOffice Writer this is probably the problem. OpenOffice
can save in Word's .doc format or even better It can email your resume
as a .doc file but still save it in the default .odt format.

To use the e-mail feature; with the document open in Writer click
File-Send-E-mail as Microsoft Word. This will open a blank e-mail in
whatever your systems default e-mail program is with the resume as an
attachment.

I hope this helps you out.

Regards
Keith McKenna
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Re: sending resume using open office

2014-01-08 Thread Tim Deaton
If you are sending out resumes, they need to be in .doc format or .pdf 
format.  You can save the document to both of those formats from within 
OpenOffice.


For .pdf format, there is an icon in the standard toolbar just above 
your document.  Click on that to create the .pdf file.


For .doc format, choose FILE from the menu, then SAVE AS.  Then browse 
the FILE FORMAT dropdown to find the .doc format (MS Word 1997-2003).


-- Tim
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I know the plans I have for you:
Plans to prosper you and not to harm you;
Plans to give you hope and a future.
   --- God (Jeremiah 29:11)

On 1/8/2014 10:45 PM, jcish...@suddenlink.net wrote:

To whom it may concern,
My name is John, I have been using open office for some time now and fine it as 
good or better than windows office.
I have a problem with  AOO, every time I send a resume to a potential employer, 
it always comes back.  What is the problem
I am having ?  I always need to move to the laptop, where I have saved Word for 
this occasion and then send the document.
Please tell me what the answer to this problem is.  I can not find it.  Thank 
you.  John   Please reply to jcish...@suddenlink.net
Thank you and may God Bless

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Re: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

2014-01-08 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 22:03:26 PM +, e-letter wrote:

 For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the
 digest mode. You receive a delayed, single combined message of a
 group of messages. It is an easy and convenient way to avoid the
 nonsense polluting your e-mail inbox.

with all respect, this is BAD advice. It's an easy way to accomplish
nothing AND get ignored or start more flamewars.

First, digest mode avoids NO pollution at all. If there are 100
useless or nonsense messages you still get ALL of them, just in one
batch, and mixed with all the others so they are HARDER to filter out.

Second, novices often answer to digests, when they don't start whole
new threads, by simply hitting Reply to the digest themselves. So:

- almost nobody bothers to open those answers because they have a
  meaningless subject (Re: digest of users@openoffice...)

- every subscriber gets all the messages of the previous day AGAIN
  (which makes people with non-flat rate mobile connections
  very happy)

- even people with flat rate connection start the usual flame war
  between top and bottom posters because they get 5 lines of new text
  before or after 1000 lines of digest

  Marco

PS: not for novices to mailing list, but people who wants to avoid
the nonsense polluting the inbox can completely filter out
uninteresting threads with this procmail trick:


http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/how-ignore-uninteresting-threads-in-mailing-lists/

I use it since when I wrote about it, and it works. I only
realized that there must have been pretty good flamewars here
recently when I got Rob's reminder about list policies yesterday

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