Re: [was:] Double line spacing

2016-08-07 Thread Julian Thomas

> On Aug 6, 2016, at 17:29, Brian Barker  wrote:
> 
>> 1 virus 2 viri 3 virii 4 viriv. .. 9 virix
> 
> Ho, ho! A good one!

original credit goes to Rob Slade   [9 was my own addition]

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread larry phillips


On Sat, 8/6/16, Jim McLaughlin  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Double line spacing
 To: users@openoffice.apache.org
 Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 4:43 PM
 
 A writer whom I rather like was
 credited with commenting that my country
 and his were unfortunately separated by a  common
 language. I have always
 thought that to be
 a quite accurate observation.
 
 I suggest that we agree to disagree and each withdraw from
 the field, each
 knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred
 usages in our
 respective geographic areas.
 Languages , even Latin, are living things and continually
 evolve.  Perhaps
 only Carthaginian appears to not do so. Scipio Aemilianus
 (Scipio
 Africanus) seems to have taken care of that.
 
 In any event, I think that half breed, Winston Leonard
 Spencer Churchill
 had an apt point.
 
 I promise to not make fun of your side's silly
 pronunciations of "clerk"
 and spelling and pronunciation of "aluminum" if you will
 refrain from
 calling me silly for my usage preferences.
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Brian Barker 
 wrote:
 
 > At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
 >
 >> virii
 >>
 >
 > Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a
 second declension
 > noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural
 would be "viri", not
 > *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir"
 and means "men". (I
 > suppose some people do believe that all men are
 slime.)
 >
 > *"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent)
 *"virius".
 >
 > Brian Barker
 >
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Re: [was:] Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:53 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:
just a quick (last) word: I take dictionaries to describe usage, not 
prescribe it ...


True.


... thus they lag actual usage.


Hmm...

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Re: [was:] Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Felmon Davis

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote:


At 13:43 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

I suggest that we agree to disagree ...


You can disagree without my needing to agree that you can. If agreeing to 
disagree means that I accept that "virii" is as arguable as "viruses", then I 
don't.


... each knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred usages 
in our respective geographic areas.


The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language says "viruses". 
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary says "viruses". Other 
dictionaries give no irregular plural, implying the same. Sorry, but your 
defence of "virii" as an Americanism is simply untrue: USian dictionaries 
imply it's a misuse even there.


just a quick (last) word: I take dictionaries to describe usage, not 
prescribe it thus they lag actual usage.


not sure what authority dictionary writers would have to dictate 
usage anyway.


f.

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Marna Greyvenstein
I am enjoying this language lesson ... A little distraction is good, when you 
need it. 
It is not the information I'm looking for, but it .. Helped.  
Thank you.
M

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

Jim McLaughlin  wrote:

>A writer whom I rather like was credited with commenting that my country
>and his were unfortunately separated by a  common language. I have always
>thought that to be
>a quite accurate observation.
>
>I suggest that we agree to disagree and each withdraw from the field, each
>knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred usages in our
>respective geographic areas.
>Languages , even Latin, are living things and continually evolve.  Perhaps
>only Carthaginian appears to not do so. Scipio Aemilianus (Scipio
>Africanus) seems to have taken care of that.
>
>In any event, I think that half breed, Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
>had an apt point.
>
>I promise to not make fun of your side's silly pronunciations of "clerk"
>and spelling and pronunciation of "aluminum" if you will refrain from
>calling me silly for my usage preferences.
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Brian Barker 
>wrote:
>
>> At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>>
>>> virii
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second declension
>> noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural would be "viri", not
>> *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means "men". (I
>> suppose some people do believe that all men are slime.)
>>
>> *"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius".
>>
>> Brian Barker
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Re: [was:] Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:43 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

I suggest that we agree to disagree ...


You can disagree without my needing to agree that you can. If 
agreeing to disagree means that I accept that "virii" is as arguable 
as "viruses", then I don't.


... each knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred 
usages in our respective geographic areas.


The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language says 
"viruses". Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary says 
"viruses". Other dictionaries give no irregular plural, implying the 
same. Sorry, but your defence of "virii" as an Americanism is simply 
untrue: USian dictionaries imply it's a misuse even there.



Languages, even Latin, are living things and continually evolve.


I thought every schoolboy knew that Latin was dead? (In any case, we 
were talking about a plural in English.)


I promise to not make fun of your side's silly pronunciations of 
"clerk" and spelling and pronunciation of "aluminum" ...


So you spell and pronounce helum, lithum, sodum, magnesum, potassum, 
calcum, titanum, etc. similarly?



... if you will refrain from calling me silly for my usage preferences.


Oh, I never did. On the contrary, I called the non-word "virii" a 
silly formation; I made no such suggestion about you. That's important.


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Re: [was:] Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:19 06/08/2016 -0400, Julian Thomas wrote:

1 virus 2 viri 3 virii 4 viriv. .. 9 virix


Ho, ho! A good one!

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Re: [OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 17:10 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

aw, and I was going to ask about 'data'!


Philip Howard, who used to write on words for The [London] Times, had 
a short chapter in one of his books entitled "Data is not what they 
used to be"!


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Julian Thomas
1 virus 2 viri 3 virii 4 viriv. .. 9 virix

From my i6.

Julian Thomas http:jt-mj.net
In the beautiful Genesee Valley of Western NY State!


> On Aug 6, 2016, at 15:40, Felmon Davis  wrote:
> 
> 
> so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'?


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Re: [OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)

2016-08-06 Thread Felmon Davis

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote:


At 16:29 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

...how do you pluralize 'agenda'?


"Agenda" is already a plural in Latin, meaning "doings". As it needs a plural 
in English, that again has to be a regular English plural: "agendas".


(Er, should we get back to software?!)


aw, and I was going to ask about 'data'!

was (silly) fun!

back to business.

f.


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Re: [OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 16:29 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

...how do you pluralize 'agenda'?


"Agenda" is already a plural in Latin, meaning "doings". As it needs 
a plural in English, that again has to be a regular English plural: "agendas".


(Er, should we get back to software?!)

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Jim McLaughlin
A writer whom I rather like was credited with commenting that my country
and his were unfortunately separated by a  common language. I have always
thought that to be
a quite accurate observation.

I suggest that we agree to disagree and each withdraw from the field, each
knowing that we are each separately correct as to preferred usages in our
respective geographic areas.
Languages , even Latin, are living things and continually evolve.  Perhaps
only Carthaginian appears to not do so. Scipio Aemilianus (Scipio
Africanus) seems to have taken care of that.

In any event, I think that half breed, Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
had an apt point.

I promise to not make fun of your side's silly pronunciations of "clerk"
and spelling and pronunciation of "aluminum" if you will refrain from
calling me silly for my usage preferences.




On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Brian Barker 
wrote:

> At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
>
>> virii
>>
>
> Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second declension
> noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural would be "viri", not
> *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means "men". (I
> suppose some people do believe that all men are slime.)
>
> *"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius".
>
> Brian Barker
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Re: "lightly spread pedantry" [was: Double line spacing]

2016-08-06 Thread James Knott
On 08/06/2016 04:04 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> The idea that all Latin nouns ending -us form plurals ending -i is
> specious.
>

You mean martini isn't the plural of martinus?  ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR_5h8CzRcI
Around 4:45

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[OT] "lightly spread pedantry" (was: Double line spacing)

2016-08-06 Thread Felmon Davis

On Sat, 6 Aug 2016, Brian Barker wrote:


At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

virii


Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second declension 
noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural would be "viri", not 
*"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of "vir" and means "men". (I 
suppose some people do believe that all men are slime.)


that's a great line (men and slime)!

ok, so how about this one - how do you pluralize 'agenda'?


*"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius".


btw I just take it that 'virii' is now slang so acceptable on that 
score, kind of like 'deletia' which is also impossible in Latin.


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:14 06/08/2016 -0700, Jim McLaughlin wrote:

virii


Sorry, but that's sillier than silly. If "virus" were a second 
declension noun with a Latin plural (which it isn't), its plural 
would be "viri", not *"virii". Latin "viri" is actually the plural of 
"vir" and means "men". (I suppose some people do believe that all men 
are slime.)


*"Virii" would be the plural of the (non-existent) *"virius".

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Jim McLaughlin
virii

On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016, Doug wrote:
>
> I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a
>> term-paper or a dissertation might frequently
>> be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin
>> would be of interest. To those interested in
>> language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine
>> ending, is feminine, not only in Latin, but in
>> Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German
>> (die Hand).
>>
>
> I do love a little lightly spread pedantry!
>
> so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'?
>
> f.
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Re: "lightly spread pedantry" [was: Double line spacing]

2016-08-06 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:40 06/08/2016 -0400, Felmon Davis wrote:

so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'?


This guy says that the Latin "virus" means something like "slime" and 
is a mass noun, having no plural: if you add slime to the slime you 
already have, you get more slime, not *"two slimes".


In English, "virus" is a count noun, needing a plural. Since the word 
doesn't have a Latin plural, the only possibility is a regular 
English plural, "viruses".


The idea that all Latin nouns ending -us form plurals ending -i is specious.

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-08-06 Thread Felmon Davis

On Mon, 1 Aug 2016, Doug wrote:

I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a 
term-paper or a dissertation might frequently
be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin 
would be of interest. To those interested in
language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine ending, 
is feminine, not only in Latin, but in
Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German (die 
Hand).


I do love a little lightly spread pedantry!

so how do you guys pluralize 'virus'?

f.

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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Doug


On 07/31/2016 11:58 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 22:38 31/07/2016 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 07/31/2016 06:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
spacing ...


Second, you should let your institution know that the world no 
longer uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept 
of double spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed 
output is restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no 
such restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output 
produced by word processors - though it is possible to choose that 
lines are separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


There is a very good reason for double-spaced text in any document 
submitted for publication or for scholarly discussion or grading. In 
the case of publication, it allows the editor to make corrections; in 
the second instance, it allows the reader and or the professor to 
make useful comments on particular portions of the text. In the first 
instance, I speak from some small experience as the long-term editor 
of a newsletter which runs from 12 to 20 pages per issue, of which 
there are 10 per year. Altho I edit on the computer, it is easier to 
deal with a double-spaced text as to finding and "repairing" a given 
section of the manuscript.


Sorry, but you miss my point; sorry if I wasn't clear. Of course you 
are right that it can be convenient to have *extra* space between the 
lines of text in a printed document - and the original questioner will 
want to provide this, as is required by his institution. But the idea 
of *double* spacing in particular is surely a hangover from typewriter 
technology, where vertical line positioning was limited to complete 
line heights (or sometimes half that). Both commercial printers and 
word processors are capable of much finer gradations of spacing.


Commercially printed material sometimes has additional spacing between 
lines, called leading (pronounced "ledding" as in Pb and itself a term 
that is a hangover from hot-metal technology), but this does not need 
to be in whole line heights. A printer may add two-point leading to, 
say, ten-point text, and will describe this as printed "ten on twelve 
point". Again, word processors allow similar fine choices about 
vertical spacing. There are other choices than Double in Writer's 
"Line spacing" setting and the effect is very flexible.


I feel that word processor users sometimes think in terms of 
typewriter technology, and I took the opportunity to suggest that 
wider choices were available here (but then provided the answer 
requested, I hope).


(BTW: /Manuscript/ implies that it was written /by hand/ as opposed 
to being typed!)


Indeed, from the Latin fourth declension "manus" - hand. But I'm not 
sure of your point here. You seem to be suggesting that someone 
misused the word "manuscript", but the conversation was not about 
manuscripts and you were the only person to introduce the term.


Brian Barker

I won't disagree with you. Yes, you can set up any line spacing you want 
in a word processor, but what is commonly
called double spacing, which amounts to skipping a line interval 
throughout a document, is a convenient means to

leave space for editing or correcting (by hand, sometimes).
I agree that I brought up the word "manuscript" since something like a 
term-paper or a dissertation might frequently
be called by that term, and I thought that the derivation from the Latin 
would be of interest. To those interested in
language, it might be noted that "manus" even tho it has a masculine 
ending, is feminine, not only in Latin, but in
Italian, (la mano) French, and even in the non-Romance language, German 
(die Hand).


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:38 31/07/2016 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:

On 07/31/2016 06:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double 
line spacing ...


Second, you should let your institution know that the world no 
longer uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept 
of double spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed 
output is restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no 
such restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output 
produced by word processors - though it is possible to choose that 
lines are separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


There is a very good reason for double-spaced text in any document 
submitted for publication or for scholarly discussion or grading. In 
the case of publication, it allows the editor to make corrections; 
in the second instance, it allows the reader and or the professor to 
make useful comments on particular portions of the text. In the 
first instance, I speak from some small experience as the long-term 
editor of a newsletter which runs from 12 to 20 pages per issue, of 
which there are 10 per year. Altho I edit on the computer, it is 
easier to deal with a double-spaced text as to finding and 
"repairing" a given section of the manuscript.


Sorry, but you miss my point; sorry if I wasn't clear. Of course you 
are right that it can be convenient to have *extra* space between the 
lines of text in a printed document - and the original questioner 
will want to provide this, as is required by his institution. But the 
idea of *double* spacing in particular is surely a hangover from 
typewriter technology, where vertical line positioning was limited to 
complete line heights (or sometimes half that). Both commercial 
printers and word processors are capable of much finer gradations of spacing.


Commercially printed material sometimes has additional spacing 
between lines, called leading (pronounced "ledding" as in Pb and 
itself a term that is a hangover from hot-metal technology), but this 
does not need to be in whole line heights. A printer may add 
two-point leading to, say, ten-point text, and will describe this as 
printed "ten on twelve point". Again, word processors allow similar 
fine choices about vertical spacing. There are other choices than 
Double in Writer's "Line spacing" setting and the effect is very flexible.


I feel that word processor users sometimes think in terms of 
typewriter technology, and I took the opportunity to suggest that 
wider choices were available here (but then provided the answer 
requested, I hope).


(BTW: /Manuscript/ implies that it was written /by hand/ as opposed 
to being typed!)


Indeed, from the Latin fourth declension "manus" - hand. But I'm not 
sure of your point here. You seem to be suggesting that someone 
misused the word "manuscript", but the conversation was not about 
manuscripts and you were the only person to introduce the term.


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Doug


On 07/31/2016 06:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
spacing on each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. Rather 
than hit the enter button twice each time especially as I could be 
writing long sentences and not wanting to interrupt my thought 
process can I set any part of OO to automatically do double line 
spacing.



/snip/
Second, you should let your institution know that the world no longer 
uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept of double 
spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed output is 
restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no such 
restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output produced 
by word processors - though it is possible to choose that lines are 
separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


There is a very good reason for double-spaced text in any document 
submitted for publication or for scholarly discussion or grading. In the 
case of publication, it allows the editor to make corrections; in the 
second instance, it allows the reader
and or the professor to make useful comments on particular portions of 
the text.  In the first instance, I speak from some
small experience as the long-term editor of a newsletter which runs from 
12 to 20 pages per issue, of which there are
10 per year. Altho I edit on the computer, it is easier to deal with a 
double-spaced text as to finding and "repairing" a

given section of the manuscript.

(BTW: /Manuscript/ implies that it was written /by hand/ as opposed to 
being typed!)


--doug


Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 23:46 31/07/2016 +, Tina Noname wrote:

Simply look for line spacing and choose that which you want at the time.


Sorry to be blunt, but the original questioner was asking how to do 
this! Now you are just telling him he should just do it - but not 
how. And he wants it generally, not "at the time".



You should find it under tools.


Er, he won't, you know! You are now also telling him to look in the 
wrong place.


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Tina
 Simply look for line spacing and choose that which you want at the time. You 
should find it under tools. Hope this helps somewhat.
Cheers,

Tina

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El Domingo, 31 de julio, 2016 17:24:03, Brian Barker 
 escribió:
 

 At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
>I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
>spacing on each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. 
>Rather than hit the enter button twice each time especially as I 
>could be writing long sentences and not wanting to interrupt my 
>thought process can I set any part of OO to automatically do double 
>line spacing.

First, let's debunk the idea that you could ever do the job in the 
way that you suggest. In a word-processor document, you press Enter 
not at the end of each line but at the end of a paragraph. So you 
would be dividing your work into one-line paragraphs, each separated 
by an empty paragraph. This would have many implications for how the 
document text behaved, not the least of which would be that you could 
no longer justify your text - if that is what you wanted. More 
important, any small modification you make to your text may well 
require you to move the position of the end of each false paragraph - 
all the way down to the end of the real paragraph. (Even if you 
believe that you won't need to modify your text, your examiners will 
have other ideas!)

True line breaks can be inserted using Shift+Enter instead. A 
technique using these would allow justification of text but would 
retain the other disadvantages.

Second, you should let your institution know that the world no longer 
uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept of double 
spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed output is 
restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no such 
restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output produced 
by word processors - though it is possible to choose that lines are 
separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.

o Either:
  + Select your text.
  + Go to Format | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing | Line spacing 
(or right-click | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing | Line spacing).
o Or:
  + Right-click in the paragraph and go to Edit Paragraph Style... | 
Indents & Spacing | Line spacing).
o Select Double from the drop-down menu.

The first option will set the line spacing for the current paragraph 
and for any new paragraphs that you create following it. The second 
option is better, in that it will do the same for the *style* of the 
current paragraph, so the effect will be carried into all paragraphs 
having the same style. If you have not applied any style, your 
paragraphs will nevertheless have a style - probably "Default". In 
that case, you will have to perform the task only once for the entire 
document. You can choose and apply other styles later for any 
paragraphs that require different line spacing.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 07:36 01/08/2016 +1000, Richard Beeston wrote:
I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line 
spacing on each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. 
Rather than hit the enter button twice each time especially as I 
could be writing long sentences and not wanting to interrupt my 
thought process can I set any part of OO to automatically do double 
line spacing.


First, let's debunk the idea that you could ever do the job in the 
way that you suggest. In a word-processor document, you press Enter 
not at the end of each line but at the end of a paragraph. So you 
would be dividing your work into one-line paragraphs, each separated 
by an empty paragraph. This would have many implications for how the 
document text behaved, not the least of which would be that you could 
no longer justify your text - if that is what you wanted. More 
important, any small modification you make to your text may well 
require you to move the position of the end of each false paragraph - 
all the way down to the end of the real paragraph. (Even if you 
believe that you won't need to modify your text, your examiners will 
have other ideas!)


True line breaks can be inserted using Shift+Enter instead. A 
technique using these would allow justification of text but would 
retain the other disadvantages.


Second, you should let your institution know that the world no longer 
uses typewriters. It is only in typescript that the concept of double 
spacing really exists, since it supposes that the printed output is 
restricted to discrete vertical positions. There is no such 
restriction on commercial printing or even on printed output produced 
by word processors - though it is possible to choose that lines are 
separated by exactly twice the default spacing, of course.


o Either:
 + Select your text.
 + Go to Format | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing | Line spacing 
(or right-click | Paragraph... | Indents & Spacing | Line spacing).

o Or:
 + Right-click in the paragraph and go to Edit Paragraph Style... | 
Indents & Spacing | Line spacing).

o Select Double from the drop-down menu.

The first option will set the line spacing for the current paragraph 
and for any new paragraphs that you create following it. The second 
option is better, in that it will do the same for the *style* of the 
current paragraph, so the effect will be carried into all paragraphs 
having the same style. If you have not applied any style, your 
paragraphs will nevertheless have a style - probably "Default". In 
that case, you will have to perform the task only once for the entire 
document. You can choose and apply other styles later for any 
paragraphs that require different line spacing.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 07:36:33 +1000
"Richard Beeston"  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Is there anyone who can help me
> 
> I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line spacing 
> on each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. Ratber than hit the 
> enter button twice each time especially as I could be writing long sentences 
> and not wanting to interrupt my thought process can I set any part of OO to 
> automatically do double line spacing.
> 
> Appreciate any assistance I can get
> 
> Richard

Before you start to write your thesis, read up on how to use Styles.  This 
short text aimed at University students will be helpful:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Writer_for_Students

-- 
Rory O'Farrell 

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Double line spacing

2016-07-31 Thread Richard Beeston
Hi

Is there anyone who can help me

I need to write a thesis and the requirement is to have double line spacing on 
each page of a document of approximately 150 pages. Ratber than hit the enter 
button twice each time especially as I could be writing long sentences and not 
wanting to interrupt my thought process can I set any part of OO to 
automatically do double line spacing.

Appreciate any assistance I can get

Richard