Re: Someone is Selling Open Office

2021-08-25 Thread David Robley
The Apache License http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html seems 
to suggest this is acceptable. I note the version for sale is about two 
years old and discounted to ten bucks :-)


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On 25/8/21 4:23 pm, Dale Kimball wrote:

Hey folks,

I don’t know how to reach you properly to report this but someone is selling 
your program in the Microsoft store.

Buy OpenOffice Suite - Microsoft 
Store<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/openoffice-suite/9n91p8b0dmwn#activetab=pivot:overviewtab>

They’ve been selling it for $70 and I have to imagine this is not legal.

Regards,

Dale

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Someone is Selling Open Office

2021-08-25 Thread Dale Kimball
Hey folks,

I don’t know how to reach you properly to report this but someone is selling 
your program in the Microsoft store.

Buy OpenOffice Suite - Microsoft 
Store<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/openoffice-suite/9n91p8b0dmwn#activetab=pivot:overviewtab>

They’ve been selling it for $70 and I have to imagine this is not legal.

Regards,

Dale

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The selling of Open Office.

2016-09-01 Thread Tim Bailey

Dear Open Office (Apache),

I am a Linux user and obey by the laws of Open Source development and 
production.  I embrace everything which is designed to set the internet 
free to it's core, of which Open Office development has been a leading 
contributor for cross-platform unity.  Thank you.


I am disabled and have to do my shopping online, mostly through Amazon.  
While searching the Amazon computer software pages, I came across some 
discs of Open Office for sale by various purveyors. This concerns me as 
the process of Open Source is to either download from the developer' 
website directly, or from the safe links provided on that website.  And, 
even to order the discs directly from them.


Do the people or companies involved in selling Open Office in the links 
below have permission to sell Open Office under a contract? I'd do not 
like the thought of people making money from something which is freely 
given by the developers who have forged their reputations out of the 
good will of donations from users.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Student-Professional-Powered-OpenOfficeTM-Microsoft/dp/B015JDCEWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-2=open+office

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-STUDENT-2015/dp/B014JJLGZ0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-8=open+office

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-BUSINESS-2016/dp/B0168FFLRC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-10=open+office

https://www.amazon.co.uk/OpenOffice-Professional-2016-Spreadsheets-Presentations/dp/B0195Q4DC0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-13=open+office



Yours sincerely,


Tim Bailey

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RE: The selling of Open Office.

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
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Tim,

The open-source license under which Apache OpenOffice is provided does not 
prevent commercial use in any manner.

However, the use of Apache Software Foundation trademarks is a different 
matter.  I am referring your message to the OpenOffice Project Management 
Committee for consideration of that aspect.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Bailey [mailto:mityhot.ali...@yandex.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 07:56
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: The selling of Open Office.
> 
> Dear Open Office (Apache),
> 
> I am a Linux user and obey by the laws of Open Source development and
> production.  I embrace everything which is designed to set the internet
> free to it's core, of which Open Office development has been a leading
> contributor for cross-platform unity.  Thank you.
> 
> I am disabled and have to do my shopping online, mostly through Amazon.
> While searching the Amazon computer software pages, I came across some
> discs of Open Office for sale by various purveyors. This concerns me as
> the process of Open Source is to either download from the developer'
> website directly, or from the safe links provided on that website.  And,
> even to order the discs directly from them.
> 
> Do the people or companies involved in selling Open Office in the links
> below have permission to sell Open Office under a contract? I'd do not
> like the thought of people making money from something which is freely
> given by the developers who have forged their reputations out of the
> good will of donations from users.
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Student-Professional-Powered-OpenOfficeTM-
> Microsoft/dp/B015JDCEWE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 2=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-STUDENT-
> 2015/dp/B014JJLGZ0/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 8=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OPEN-OFFICE-HOME-BUSINESS-
> 2016/dp/B0168FFLRC/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 10=open+office
> 
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/OpenOffice-Professional-2016-Spreadsheets-
> Presentations/dp/B0195Q4DC0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8=1472740582=8-
> 13=open+office
> 
> 
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> 
> Tim Bailey
> 
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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-10 Thread Dale Erwin

On 5/10/2015 10:50 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 05/10/2015 11:43 AM, jd1008 wrote:

It should be compiled C or C++ code that cannot be removed
without getting the full source code and removing the message and
recompiling
the whole enchilada.

As open source software, the full source code is available.  You don't
have to be much of a developer to edit it and recompile.


Besides, such a notice would be deceptive since there is nothing illegal 
about reselling the software.  Robbery, on the other hand, is illegal.


Dale Erwin

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Selling

2015-05-10 Thread jonathon
On 09/05/15 09:49, daz scull wrote:

 Thought id give you heads up anyway as it seems they are trying to
cash in on your hard work! :-(

Apache Open Office is distributed under the Apache License 2.0.
LibreOffice is distributed under the Mozilla Public License 2.0.

Both licenses (ALv2, MPL 2.0) are considered to be Free, Libre, Open
Source Licenses. Neither license prohibits commercial distribution by
third parties.

Consequently, there are organizations that:
* sell CDs/DVDs through retail outlets in both meatspace and cyberspace;
* charge for downloading the program from either their website, or from
SourceForge, or from the LibreOffice Website, or from the Apache Open
Office Website;
* charge a per seat license fee, ostensibly for support services;

How much you pay has no bearing on the amount, or type of support you
receive:
* I've seen CD vendors charge $0.99 which includes one hour of telephone
support;
* I've seen CD vendors charge $500.00 and provide no support at all;

jonathon

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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

M Henri Day wrote:

 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.

​As we have frequently seen on these threads, signature «Urmas»​
​ seems to embrace a morality all her/his own​


Selling OpenOffice can be done in a legal way but we require some fair 
behavior of people who do it. See 
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/ and if you see people on Ebay 
who do not follow this policy and do not add the notices we require 
please ask them that they do so, thanks!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-10 Thread jd1008



On 05/10/2015 09:29 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

M Henri Day wrote:

 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.

​As we have frequently seen on these threads, signature «Urmas»​
​ seems to embrace a morality all her/his own​


Selling OpenOffice can be done in a legal way but we require some fair 
behavior of people who do it. See 
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/ and if you see people on Ebay 
who do not follow this policy and do not add the notices we require 
please ask them that they do so, thanks!


Regards,
  Andrea.


The solution to this is very very simple.

During installation, the package should bring up a banner that says 
something like:


This is totally free software.
If you paid for it, you have been robbed.
You can download it for free from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/latest/download?source=directory-featured


Also, the banner must not be a script, which can be easily removed from
the package. It should be compiled C or C++ code that cannot be removed
without getting the full source code and removing the message and 
recompiling

the whole enchilada.

Cheers,

JD

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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-10 Thread James Knott
On 05/10/2015 11:43 AM, jd1008 wrote:
 It should be compiled C or C++ code that cannot be removed
 without getting the full source code and removing the message and
 recompiling
 the whole enchilada. 

As open source software, the full source code is available.  You don't
have to be much of a developer to edit it and recompile.


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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-10 Thread jd1008



On 05/10/2015 09:50 AM, James Knott wrote:

On 05/10/2015 11:43 AM, jd1008 wrote:

It should be compiled C or C++ code that cannot be removed
without getting the full source code and removing the message and
recompiling
the whole enchilada.

As open source software, the full source code is available.  You don't
have to be much of a developer to edit it and recompile.



Actually, your statement is not true.
The overwhelming majority of such ripoff
scums have no clue how to open a sardine
can, let alone rpm packages, or debian packages
or zipped tar packages.

Yes, there are some who can, but most are not into
this sort of crappy activity. The remaining few
are, ... well, .. few.


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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread James Knott
On 05/09/2015 03:56 PM, hbla...@cox.net wrote:
 For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong with 
 that. Right?

There are some who sell a CD with OO for a nominal amount.  They provide
a service for those who can't download it.  On the other hand, there a
some who charge for a download, load it with crapware or claim they
include support and then point the purchaser here for their paid support.


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Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread M Henri Day
2015-05-09 21:56 GMT+02:00 hbla...@cox.net:

 For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong
 with that. Right?

  Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:

 =
 daz scull:

  trying to cash in on your free software

 There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.


​As we have frequently seen on these threads, signature «Urmas»​
​ seems to embrace a morality all her/his own​


​Henri​


Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread Urmas

daz scull:


trying to cash in on your free software


There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.




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Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread daz scull
Hi guys, 1sr of all, great product, been using it for years ;-) 

Now onto my point, i came across some muppet on ebay trying to cash in on your 
free software, here is the item number: 261832142262

Thought id gibe you heads up anyway as it seems rhey are trying to cash in on 
your hard work! :-( 

Cheers

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

Re: Selling on ebay!

2015-05-09 Thread hblange
For example, the Brooklyn Bridge has been sold many times Nothing wrong with 
that. Right?

 Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
daz scull:

 trying to cash in on your free software

There is nothing wrong with reselling free software.




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