Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 28/04/2014 Robert Funnell wrote:

openoffice.apache.org
itself links to www.openoffice.org, which is equivalent to
openoffice.org (or OpenOffice.org).


I confirm this is correct. Both http://www.openoffice.org and 
http://openoffice.apache.org are official sites, under control of the 
project. The former has a lot of outdated content, and if someone can 
help in cleaning it up please let us know.


In future occasions, I would recommend to answer with a link to
http://s.apache.org/genuine-openoffice
(our post on the official blog about these situations), and please avoid 
replying with the same language that enraged posters and trolls  use.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread TN Patriot
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
Terry Lugviel tlugv...@ymail.com wrote:

 It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes 
 home
 page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should be ashamed to 
 carry
 such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as if it's 
 part of
 the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be reported to several consumer protection
 services and I think you should be fined and sued for infecting our computers 
 with
 this crap.
 
 SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS
 

You've never been accused of being intelligent, right?

If you had a synapse, ever, you'd know better than to download from someplace 
other
than the official site, you moron. You obviously shouldn't own a 
computer...you're
dangerous enough without one.

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Pierson
I never had a problem downloading from OpenOffice.org.   I just loaded it to a 
brand new Mac and other than the known issues with  OSX 10.9, I’ve encountered 
nothing suspicious or malevolent.   I can’t make the same claim regarding 3rd 
party distributors.  I regard them as similar to reaching for a gold coin at 
the bottom of a basket of snakes; if you’re careful you get the coin, if not 
you get bitten.

Bruce  
On Apr 27, 2014, at 23:54, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:

 Terry Lugviel wrote:
 It was from OpenOffice.org.
 
 I have downloaded from www.openoffice.org many times and never, not once
 had the problems you did.  That stuff must have come from somewhere else.
 
 BTW, we are not a company.  This is a mail list for users of
 OpenOffice.  Beyond using it, I have absolutely no connection with them.
 
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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Rob Weir
Hi Terry,

You have a right to be upset, but I think your anger is misdirected.
We do not bundle any other programs with Apache OpenOffice.
Absolutely none.  Our downloads are carefully scanned for viruses and
are accompanied by digital signatures and cryptographic hashes to
allow users to verify their integrity.

However, there are 3rd parties that sometimes take OpenOffice and
bundle it with other applications of the kind you describe.  In some
cases they put up fake websites, or purchase advertisements in search
engine search results, to lure people to their website.

You can read more about this, and what you can do about it, in the
following blog post:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/how_to_safely_download_apache

As others have suggested, it would help if you can check your system,
your browser history, download directory, etc., to ascertain exactly
what website you downloaded from and what program (name, date and
size) you downloaded.  That information can help us identify the
culprit and take further action.  You mention reporting this incident
to consumer authorities.  I recommend that as well, as we do in the
blog post, but please be careful to first identify exactly what
occurred and who is to blame.  I can assure you it was not us.

Regards,

-Rob Weir, Apache OpenOffice Security Team





On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Terry Lugviel tlugv...@ymail.com wrote:
 It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes 
 home page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should be ashamed 
 to carry such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as 
 if it's part of the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be reported to several 
 consumer protection services and I think you should be fined and sued for 
 infecting our computers with this crap.

 SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Shari Smith
There are no crap sponsors to opt out of. So you are incorrect in what you
are saying.period.
I've downloaded and installed AOO on many computers and never ONCE had any
additional programs. Do a history search in your browser and I bet $$ to
Sundays it wasn't openoffice.org

Shari


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Terry Lugviel tlugv...@ymail.com wrote:

 It was from OpenOffice.org.  You have three crap sponsored programs you
 cna opt out of on install, I seemed to have missed the FindWide internet
 search one and since it installed it's been impossible to keep the dam
 thing form hijacking my homepage constantly even AFTER uninstalling it.  I
 can't believe a organizatin such as this has such poor quality control to
 let something like that shitty search engiee fuck up your users computers.
 Either you do it intentionally or you just don't care who you let put
 addons to your programs not caring that they fuck our computers up.

 Either way, it's your god damn fault and I hope someone I've written to
 fucks your company so hard in the ass it drive you out of business and into
 the god damn streets

 On Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:43 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com
 wrote:

 Terry Lugviel wrote:

  It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that
 includes home page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should
 be ashamed to carry such harmful software let alone trick people into
 installing it as if it's part of the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be
 reported to several consumer protection services and I think you should be
 fined and sued for infecting our computers with this crap.
 
  SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS
 


 Where did you download from?  If you download from www.openoffice.org,
 then you won't have any such problems.  If you get it from elsewhere,
 then...


Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 08:48:20PM -0700, Terry Lugviel wrote:
 It was from OpenOffice.org.

Hey genius, if you didn't download from openoffice.apache.org it's your
own goddamn fault. ^^ 

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Robert Funnell

On Mon, 28 Apr 2014, Robert Holtzman wrote:


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 08:48:20PM -0700, Terry Lugviel wrote:

It was from OpenOffice.org.


Hey genius, if you didn't download from openoffice.apache.org it's your
own goddamn fault. ^^


I don't understand the point of your message. openoffice.apache.org 
itself links to www.openoffice.org, which is equivalent to 
openoffice.org (or OpenOffice.org).



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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Constanza
No problem with the download here either 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 28/04/2014, at 08:11, Bruce Pierson bpierson...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I never had a problem downloading from OpenOffice.org.   I just loaded it to 
 a brand new Mac and other than the known issues with  OSX 10.9, I’ve 
 encountered nothing suspicious or malevolent.   I can’t make the same claim 
 regarding 3rd party distributors.  I regard them as similar to reaching for a 
 gold coin at the bottom of a basket of snakes; if you’re careful you get the 
 coin, if not you get bitten.
 
 Bruce  
 On Apr 27, 2014, at 23:54, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
 
 Terry Lugviel wrote:
 It was from OpenOffice.org.
 
 I have downloaded from www.openoffice.org many times and never, not once
 had the problems you did.  That stuff must have come from somewhere else.
 
 BTW, we are not a company.  This is a mail list for users of
 OpenOffice.  Beyond using it, I have absolutely no connection with them.
 
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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Gary Frost
The language and behavior of the poster who had problems he created it appears, 
are not acceptable. Needing help is one thing, but the blather about this 
person should end and they be blocked according to list rules. I've never had 
an issue either.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 28, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Constanza consr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No problem with the download here either 

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-28 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2014-04-28 1:23 GMT+02:00 Terry Lugviel tlugv...@ymail.com:

 It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes
 home page hijackers like FindWide search among others.


FindWide? What is that? Never heard of it, sorry.
Yes, it's bullshit that I tricked someone to install something, you are
right about that.


   You should be ashamed to carry such harmful software let alone trick
 people into installing it as if it's part of the OpenOffice package.


I never trick people to anything, certainly not to install something. I'm
just an Apache OpenOffice user who subscribed to this list to help others
and get help from others, just like most people subscribed to this list.
There are a few developers hanging here too, but they usually don't say
anything. I guess they are busy.



   You WILL be reported to several consumer protection services and I think
 you should be fined and sued for infecting our computers with this crap.


I didn't infect anything with anything.



 SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS


Maybe, but not for any of the reason mentioned in this thread.


Johnny Rosenberg
Musician and spreadsheet user


By the way, I did a quick search and found this site:
http://malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-findwide-search-virus/
”This page contains step by step instructions on how to remove Findwide
Search virus from Internet Explorer, Firefox and Google Chrome.”

This page is however of no use to me:
1. I don't have the FindWide virus installed (and I'm not sure why I would
install it)
2. I don't use any of the mentioned web browsers…


Re: Shame on you. A message to Terry Lugviel

2014-04-28 Thread John Hart

On 4/27/2014 8:48 PM, Terry Lugviel wrote:

It was from OpenOffice.org. clip

Either way, it's your god damn fault and I hope someone I've written to 
fucks your company so hard in the ass it drive you out of business and 
into the god damn streets :


Terry,

1. You owe readers of this list and volunteers that donate time to 
provide people with free software an apology.
2. If you're as mad as you say about the culprit, find the URL in was 
downloaded from in the browser history and

email it to this list.
3. If the name was open office it means your DNS was hacked and sent you 
to a forged site because downloads from
the official site don't contain anything but AOO. If the name was 
close and did something illegal it can be shut down.
4. By the vulgarity and lack of respect you show, I suspect you're an 
idiot, if not and you were just venting, send a
message to the list and someone might volunteer to help you get rid 
of the malware and it would help them do

something about the bogus site.

jrh

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Re: Shame on you. A message to Terry Lugviel

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:55 PM, John Hart jh...@testra.com wrote:
 If the name was open office it means your DNS was hacked and sent you to a
 forged site because downloads from
 the official site don't contain anything but AOO. If the name was close
 and did something illegal it can be shut down.

John,

Let me jump in to add that this has been reported before, specifically
by June 2013.
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=62181

So it seems there must be some bogus site offering AOO with this
findwide add-on bundled.
Now it´d be productive if could find out WHERE it is hosted, to shut it down...

FC


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Re: Shame on you. A message to Terry Lugviel

2014-04-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
 So it seems there must be some bogus site offering AOO with this
 findwide add-on bundled.
 Now it´d be productive if could find out WHERE it is hosted, to shut it 
 down...

For instance could someone please test and confirm if downloading
through this third party downloader doesn´t install any kind of
third party software?
http://openoffice.en.softonic.com/download

It showed up among the top 20 results for googling apache open office

FC
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Shame on you.

2014-04-27 Thread Terry Lugviel
It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes home 
page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should be ashamed to 
carry such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as if 
it's part of the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be reported to several consumer 
protection services and I think you should be fined and sued for infecting our 
computers with this crap.

SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS


Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-27 Thread James Knott
Terry Lugviel wrote:
 It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes 
 home page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should be ashamed 
 to carry such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as 
 if it's part of the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be reported to several 
 consumer protection services and I think you should be fined and sued for 
 infecting our computers with this crap.

 SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS



Where did you download from?  If you download from www.openoffice.org,
then you won't have any such problems.  If you get it from elsewhere,
then...

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-27 Thread Terry Lugviel
It was from OpenOffice.org.  You have three crap sponsored programs you cna opt 
out of on install, I seemed to have missed the FindWide internet search one and 
since it installed it's been impossible to keep the dam thing form hijacking my 
homepage constantly even AFTER uninstalling it.  I can't believe a organizatin 
such as this has such poor quality control to let something like that shitty 
search engiee fuck up your users computers.  Either you do it intentionally or 
you just don't care who you let put addons to your programs not caring that 
they fuck our computers up.

Either way, it's your god damn fault and I hope someone I've written to fucks 
your company so hard in the ass it drive you out of business and into the god 
damn streets

On Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:43 PM, James Knott james.kn...@rogers.com wrote:
 
Terry Lugviel wrote:

 It's bullshit that you trick us into installing crap malware that includes 
 home page hijackers like FindWide search among others.  You should be ashamed 
 to carry such harmful software let alone trick people into installing it as 
 if it's part of the OpenOffice package.  You WILL be reported to several 
 consumer protection services and I think you should be fined and sued for 
 infecting our computers with this crap.

 SHAME ON YOU YOU CHEAP MORONS



Where did you download from?  If you download from www.openoffice.org,
then you won't have any such problems.  If you get it from elsewhere,
then...

Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-27 Thread James Knott
Terry Lugviel wrote:
 It was from OpenOffice.org.

I have downloaded from www.openoffice.org many times and never, not once
had the problems you did.  That stuff must have come from somewhere else.

BTW, we are not a company.  This is a mail list for users of
OpenOffice.  Beyond using it, I have absolutely no connection with them.

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Re: Shame on you.

2014-04-27 Thread Tony Gallas
I also have never had a problem downloading from openoffice.org. Any 
download from a third party is fraught with danger. Also any of the 
better Internet Security suites can help in minimising the risk.


Seems to me that Terry is trying to blame someone else for his own 
idiocy. Short of giving him a brain transplant I can't see how anyone 
could help him.

On 28/04/2014 1:24 PM, James Knott wrote:

Terry Lugviel wrote:

It was from OpenOffice.org.

I have downloaded from www.openoffice.org many times and never, not once
had the problems you did.  That stuff must have come from somewhere else.

BTW, we are not a company.  This is a mail list for users of
OpenOffice.  Beyond using it, I have absolutely no connection with them.

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