Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
Thanks for your input Shari and for explaining it in such an understanding manner. Regards, Mike Lish On 25 July 2013 17:00, Shari Smith shari.sm...@uneedstuff.com wrote: Hi Mike, I use Thunderbird imap'd to gMail. The simple answer (and possibly not technically correct) to your question is that gMail in itself is not a program, like Microsoft Word is a program. Your computer can be set to open the file type .doc with a program. As gMail isn't a program, it can't be select as the open with. When you're working in your browser and offered email, it's your browser that is handling that, not your system, hence why it can offer the gMail option. I believe a few people have shared some ways around this, so it can be made to do it. I find Thunderbird the easiest, as I use it for my email; hence why I choose that route. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Simple: there is an industry standard for accessing email: MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface). OpenOffice works with any application that supports MAPI. Most email clients support MAPI. GMail does not. That is their choice. We can't force them to support MAPI. But we're not writing custom support for every email client in existence. We support the standard. A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting: http://www.mapi4gmail.com/ Regards, -Rob Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:34 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't expect you to write in custom support for every email client in existence, but I would expect an exception to be made for the biggest and perhaps the top three. What would it take to do! If perhaps %95 percent of email traffic is represented by the top three clients why exclude the biggest of them, in spite of their preference not to support MAPI. It doesn't make any sense! Maybe you missed the part where I pointed out that 3rd parties have already written adapters to bring MAPI support to GMail. That's the way to go. If you use an adapter then all of your desktop applications that support MAPI will be able to work with GMail as well. -Rob Regards, Mike On 24 July 2013 12:31, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM, MIKE LISH emell...@gmail.com wrote: All of this seems rather convoluted and complicated. Why can't AOO be made to recognize Google, as it has been made to recognize its compatibility with Microsoft .doc etc. etc. instead of pushing blame in Google's direction. I find it difficult to accept there is no work around to this problem. C'mon! AOO is great in most other ways, and it seems ridiculous for it not to recognize Google email! ! Simple: there is an industry standard for accessing email: MAPI (Messaging Application Programming Interface). OpenOffice works with any application that supports MAPI. Most email clients support MAPI. GMail does not. That is their choice. We can't force them to support MAPI. But we're not writing custom support for every email client in existence. We support the standard. A quick search shows there are products out there that claim to add MAPI support to GMail. I haven't tried any of them to see how they work with OpenOffice, but this one sounds interesting: http://www.mapi4gmail.com/ Regards, -Rob Mike Lish On 23 July 2013 19:03, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: That's not the issue. Apache OpenOffice does not discriminate on that basis. What is the issue is that Apache OpenOffice uses the on-desktop protocol for requesting the opening of an e-mail with a given attachment. This will usually be whatever is recognized as the default e-mail application on the desktop. Google does not provide any kind of desktop presence by which this can be handled. However, it is possible to access Google Mail by standard desktop e-mail applications, instead of using a browser. *That* software can then be reached by Apache OpenOffice so long as it is capable of being registered as the default e-mail application. The Microsoft Outlook desktop application will do this -- connect to Google Mail and integrate with Apache OpenOffice. Depending on operating system, the Windows Live Mail application will also connect to Google Mail and also be triggered by Apache OpenOffice. The same should apply for Outlook Express if someone still uses an operating system that has that desktop application. There are some differences in how this works with Windows 8. There is some other thread or perhaps bugzilla issue where that has been discussed. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Urmas [mailto:davian...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 05:08 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted?? Mike Lish
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
That is total nonsense. Then why make OO compatible with Microsoft docs!! On 23 July 2013 13:07, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Why should OO give a special treatment to a proprietary web service from 3rd party company? --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgusers-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.**orgusers-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
Google has no email client. All it offers is a web interface to their email server. OpenOffice need to find an email program e.g.. Thunderbird So you need to wait till version 1 of the Google email client if that ever will come. On 23/07/2013 9:26 PM, MIKE LISH wrote: I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted?? Mike Lish - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Still unable to email documents with version 4 upgrade
On Tuesday 23 Jul 2013 12:26:26 MIKE LISH wrote: I was hoping this upgrade would overcome this frustrating and very annoying problem. It does not!! I use Google for everything, and for any office platform not to recognize Google email is stone age stuff ! In what way do you use OpenOffice with Email, sending email documents or HTML emails has always worked with OO just a matter of knowing your smtp server details. OO isn't a email client so it won't receive mail. Can you be more specific as to your needs please Cheers GL Do I need to wait for version 12 before this is sorted?? Mike Lish - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
