Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg 
wrote:

> I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
>

Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by
you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
sample documents?

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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 07:54:56 +
Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg 
> wrote:
> 
> > I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
> > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> >
> 
> Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by
> you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
> sample documents?
> 
> FC
> -- 
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
> act
> - George Orwell

Does it work when Windows is started in "Safe Mode"?  If so,  the problem is 
caused by crosstalk from some application/driver that runs in Windows Normal 
mode.  On my infrequently used Windows machine (XP) it works correctly.

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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
Which OS do you use?

I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1

kind regards

Matthias Seidel


Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
> 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> is anyone else having this issue?
>>
> Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
> cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
>
> So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over
> (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
> don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
> them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>
>
>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980
>>
>> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.
>>
>> kind regards
>>
>> Matthias Seidel
>>
>>
>>




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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Which OS do you use?
> 
> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1
> 
> kind regards
> 
> Matthias Seidel

The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK).  There 
have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other users of 
Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug.  I do not know the situation of other 
*Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions

Rory O'Farrell


> 
> 
> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
> > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> is anyone else having this issue?
> >>
> > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
> > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
> > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> >
> > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over
> > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
> > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
> > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> >
> >
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980
> >>
> >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >>
> >> Matthias Seidel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 


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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
I can confirm that it does not occur on Xubuntu 16.04.1. So it may be
related to the window manager.

I will try en-uk on Ubuntu 16.04.1 to see if it is related to the
language pack.

There are at least 2 other situations where I can reproduce a crash.
One was confirmed for 4.1.1 on Mac
(https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125762).

Matthias Seidel


Am 11.09.2016 um 10:21 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200
> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>
>> Which OS do you use?
>>
>> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1
>>
>> kind regards
>>
>> Matthias Seidel
> The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK).  There 
> have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other users of 
> Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug.  I do not know the situation of other 
> *Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions
>
> Rory O'Farrell
>
>
>>
>> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
>>> 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
>>>
 Hello,

 is anyone else having this issue?

>>> Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
>>> cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but
>>> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
>>> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
>>> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
>>> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
>>>
>>> So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched over
>>> (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
>>> don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
>>> them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at least.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Johnny Rosenberg
>>>
>>>
>>>
 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980

 It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.

 kind regards

 Matthias Seidel



>>
>




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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
I think everyone who experiences this bug should vote for it in bugzilla:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980

And give as much information as possible to the developers...

kind regards

Matthias Seidel


Am 11.09.2016 um 09:54 schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg 
> wrote:
>
>> I mentioned it here a few years ago but
>> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
>> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
>> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem persists,
>> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
>>
> Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by
> you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
> sample documents?
>
> FC




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Re: Fwd: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread Hagar Delest

Hi,

The OOXML (.docx/.xlsx/...) was not designed to be compatible with anything 
else than MS Office. That's part of the vendor lock-in policy.
If you need to work in that format, stick to MS Office or accept the 
limitations of the other software that try to do their best to be as close as 
possible to the desired output.

Note that to compare, you should provide a PDF showing the differences.

You're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies. Please reply to 
the list and not to my mail (I won't reply).

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Le 11/09/2016 à 05:44, Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh a écrit :

Hello

Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my docx 
files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but the 
output is the same.

Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure out 
what the problem is?


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Re: Fwd: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread nasrin khaksar
hi.
i think that libreoffice is better program in some microsoft formats
including docx pptx etc.

On 9/11/16, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The OOXML (.docx/.xlsx/...) was not designed to be compatible with anything
> else than MS Office. That's part of the vendor lock-in policy.
> If you need to work in that format, stick to MS Office or accept the
> limitations of the other software that try to do their best to be as close
> as possible to the desired output.
>
> Note that to compare, you should provide a PDF showing the differences.
>
> You're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies. Please reply
> to the list and not to my mail (I won't reply).
>
> Hagar
>
>
> Le 11/09/2016 à 05:44, Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh a écrit :
>> Hello
>>
>> Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
>> I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my
>> docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
>> Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but the
>> output is the same.
>>
>> Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure
>> out what the problem is?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Amir
>>
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Re: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread nasrin khaksar
hello.
also i recommend libreoffice because it supports save as docx pptx etc.
best regards from zahra.

On 9/11/16, Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh  wrote:
> Hello
>
> Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
> I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my
> docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
> Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but the
> output is the same.
>
> Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure out
> what the problem is?
>
>
> Best Regards
> Amir
>


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Read Only documents

2016-09-11 Thread Rick Davis
I,ver been a user of Open Office for several years. Recently, files that I've 
created with Word are opening as "read only", even though they were not 
originally created or saved with that property. 
The Help file tells me to toggle the "Edit File" icon to allow file editing. 
When I click on the "Edit File" icon to edit the text document, the program 
crashes.
Is there a setting to change the default away from "read only" or another way 
that I can edit myself saved document files?

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Re: Re: Fwd: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread Hagar Delest

If you need professional use with OOXML, then stick to MS Office, else you'll 
lose much time trying to have the desired result with something else than MS 
Office. It will lead to frustration and possibly loss of image (I mean your 
credibility toward your customers).

The real challenge is the file format. Think ODF as the key to regain the 
property of your documents and your data. It is a true open standard, meant to 
avoid the vendor lock-in policy (like it used to be with .doc).

Hagar


Le 11/09/2016 à 15:51, nasrin khaksar a écrit :

hi.
i think that libreoffice is better program in some microsoft formats
including docx pptx etc.

On 9/11/16, Hagar Delest  wrote:

Hi,

The OOXML (.docx/.xlsx/...) was not designed to be compatible with anything
else than MS Office. That's part of the vendor lock-in policy.
If you need to work in that format, stick to MS Office or accept the
limitations of the other software that try to do their best to be as close
as possible to the desired output.

Note that to compare, you should provide a PDF showing the differences.

You're not subscribed to the list, you may miss other replies. Please reply
to the list and not to my mail (I won't reply).

Hagar


Le 11/09/2016 à 05:44, Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh a écrit :

Hello

Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my
docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but the
output is the same.

Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure
out what the problem is?


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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2016-09-11 10:03 GMT+02:00 Rory O'Farrell :

> On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 07:54:56 +
> Fernando Cassia  wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg <
> gurus.knu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem
> persists,
> > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced
> by
> > you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
> > sample documents?
> >
> > FC
> > --
> > During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a
> revolutionary
> > act
> > - George Orwell
>
> Does it work when Windows is started in "Safe Mode"?  If so,  the problem
> is caused by crosstalk from some application/driver that runs in Windows
> Normal mode.  On my infrequently used Windows machine (XP) it works
> correctly.
>


Don't know anything about Windows, didn't use it since 2007.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


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Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2016-09-11 9:54 GMT+02:00 Fernando Cassia :

> On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Johnny Rosenberg  >
> wrote:
>
> > I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem
> persists,
> > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> >
>
> Sounds like bad bug triage. That kind of error -if it can be reproduced by
> you- should be easy to reproduce and confirm by devs. Did you provide
> sample documents?
>

I don't remember, this was a couple of years ago, I think…
But I guess I could, if nobody else can reproduce it with any file.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg




>
> FC
> --
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> act
> - George Orwell
>


Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2016-09-11 10:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :

> Which OS do you use?
>

Ubuntu 14.04, 32-bit


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



>
> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1
>
> kind regards
>
> Matthias Seidel
>
>
> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
> > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> is anyone else having this issue?
> >>
> > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
> > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem
> persists,
> > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> >
> > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched
> over
> > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
> > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
> > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at
> least.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> >
> >
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980
> >>
> >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >>
> >> Matthias Seidel
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>


Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2016-09-11 10:36 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :

> I can confirm that it does not occur on Xubuntu 16.04.1. So it may be
> related to the window manager.
>

Could be, I use Compiz, which is rather buggy, as it seems, and I don't use
the default settings. For instance I use the desktop cube för desktop
shifting.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


> I will try en-uk on Ubuntu 16.04.1 to see if it is related to the
> language pack.
>
> There are at least 2 other situations where I can reproduce a crash.
> One was confirmed for 4.1.1 on Mac
> (https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125762).
>
> Matthias Seidel
>
>
> Am 11.09.2016 um 10:21 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:12:20 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> >> Which OS do you use?
> >>
> >> I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >>
> >> Matthias Seidel
> > The bug does not occur on any of my Xubuntu 16.04.1 machines (en-UK).
> There have been reports that it can occur on full Ubuntu 1g.04.1; other
> users of Xubuntu 16.04.1 report no such bug.  I do not know the situation
> of other *Ubuntu 16.04.1 versions
> >
> > Rory O'Farrell
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
> >>> 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel  >:
> >>>
>  Hello,
> 
>  is anyone else having this issue?
> 
> >>> Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
> >>> cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago
> but
> >>> the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> >>> completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> >>> except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem
> persists,
> >>> so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> >>>
> >>> So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched
> over
> >>> (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
> >>> don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
> >>> them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at
> least.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>>
> >>> Johnny Rosenberg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980
> 
>  It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.
> 
>  kind regards
> 
>  Matthias Seidel
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >
>
>
>


Re: AOO crashes on applying styles

2016-09-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:05:33 +0200
Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:

> 2016-09-11 10:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
> 
> > Which OS do you use?
> >
> 
> Ubuntu 14.04, 32-bit
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Johnny Rosenberg
> 

Earlier version of OO (contemporary with 14.04)  ran OK for me on Xubuntu 14.04 
32 bit.

RoryOF

> 
> 
> >
> > I can confirm the bug with v4.1.2 (german) on Ubuntu 16.04.1
> >
> > kind regards
> >
> > Matthias Seidel
> >
> >
> > Am 11.09.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
> > > 2016-09-11 0:19 GMT+02:00 Matthias Seidel :
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> is anyone else having this issue?
> > >>
> > > Yes, I do. There are a few operations in the styles section that always
> > > cause Apache OpenOffice to crash. I mentioned it here a few years ago but
> > > the response were that ”it works for me”. Later I switched hardware
> > > completely (processor, memory, graphics card, mother board, everything
> > > except the DVD burner and ”tower”…), but exactly the same problem
> > persists,
> > > so I guess it's not my hardware's fault, at least.
> > >
> > > So since I couldn't work with some of my files efficiently, I switched
> > over
> > > (again) to LibreOffice, which I don't like at all (on the other hand, I
> > > don't like any of the office suites I've ever tried at all, everyone of
> > > them have serious issues), but it solved that particular problem, at
> > least.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Johnny Rosenberg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126980
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice to resolve this bug for the upcoming 4.1.3 release.
> > >>
> > >> kind regards
> > >>
> > >> Matthias Seidel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >


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Re: Read Only documents

2016-09-11 Thread Julian Thomas

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 09:03, Rick Davis  wrote:
> 
> I,ver been a user of Open Office for several years. Recently, files that I've 
> created with Word are opening as "read only", even though they were not 
> originally created or saved with that property. 
> The Help file tells me to toggle the "Edit File" icon to allow file editing. 
> When I click on the "Edit File" icon to edit the text document, the program 
> crashes.
> Is there a setting to change the default away from "read only" or another way 
> that I can edit myself saved document files?

You don't say what operating system you are using, but can you use a file 
manager to see if the read-only bit is set for one of the files with the 
problem is set?

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RE: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I confirm that the myfile.docx renders very differently between Microsoft 
Office Word 2016 and Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.

The file is in an RTL script and there are Apache OpenOffice discrepancies with 
regard to page layout (such as on the first page) and with margin alignment and 
with table columns not switching to RTL.  There are also incorrect and missing 
image presentations.

I have created a PDF of how Microsoft Word renders the file, for use in 
comparison with Apache OpenOfice rendering and that of others.  It is too large 
to be accepted on this mailing list.

I will open a Bugzilla with the original .docx and the .pdf as attachments so 
that we all know what we're talking about.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh [mailto:am1hosseinza...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 20:44
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Fwd: Conversion Problem
> 
> Hello
> 
> Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
> I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert my
> docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
> Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but
> the output is the same.
> 
> Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to figure
> out what the problem is?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Amir


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RE: Conversion Problem

2016-09-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Issue 127104,  now has the 
PDF created from Word 2016 and the original .docx file as attachments.

I described this as incorrect rendering of Arabic text, although that might not 
be the actual language.  If I should correct that, let me know.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 11:47
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> Cc: 'Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh' 
> Subject: RE: Conversion Problem
> 
> I confirm that the myfile.docx renders very differently between
> Microsoft Office Word 2016 and Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.
> 
> The file is in an RTL script and there are Apache OpenOffice
> discrepancies with regard to page layout (such as on the first page) and
> with margin alignment and with table columns not switching to RTL.
> There are also incorrect and missing image presentations.
> 
> I have created a PDF of how Microsoft Word renders the file, for use in
> comparison with Apache OpenOfice rendering and that of others.  It is
> too large to be accepted on this mailing list.
> 
> I will open a Bugzilla with the original .docx and the .pdf as
> attachments so that we all know what we're talking about.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Amir Mohsen Hosseinzadeh [mailto:am1hosseinza...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 20:44
> > To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Fwd: Conversion Problem
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Hope you are doing great. Thanks for your great openOffice software
> > I have a problem and just don't know what I should do. When I convert
> my
> > docx files to odt, the output file is not what I expected to be.
> > Although I have used another (Libreoffice and others) converters, but
> > the output is the same.
> >
> > Could you please check the attached sample file for any issue to
> figure
> > out what the problem is?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Amir
> 
> 
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Windows 2016 TP5 issue, VC++ 2008 x64 9.0.30729.6161 Apache OpenOffice 1759911

2016-09-11 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi:

The installer seems to hang (atleast 45 min and no bail out) at the 
'Configuring VC++ 2008 redistributable' dialog stage.

Apache OpenOffice 1759911 (4.2.0 nightly build)
OS: Windows 2016 TP5
Dialog: VC++ 2008 Redistributable x64 9.0.30729.6161 

Note: there is "no" Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware application installed or running.

Please see the screenshot at
https://i.imgsafe.org/6170106283.png

While i understand that VC++ 2008 redistributable is a dependency for Apache 
Open Office 4.2.0, couple of points here

1. the user experience gets affected, given the inordinate delay in completing 
the installation.

2. is there a way to let the user know, that a log entry can be reviewed to 
know where we are stuck

3. Is there a plan to bump up the 'baseline' for the VC++ compiler version that 
Apache Open Office is built with ? 

Thanks for your time.


warm regards
Saifi.


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Re: Windows 2016 TP5 issue, VC++ 2008 x64 9.0.30729.6161 Apache OpenOffice 1759911

2016-09-11 Thread Saifi Khan
>  ---Original Message---
>  From: Saifi Khan 
>  To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
>  Subject: Windows 2016 TP5 issue, VC++ 2008 x64 9.0.30729.6161 Apache 
> OpenOffice 1759911
>  Sent: Sep 12 '16 08:39
>  
>  Hi:
>  
>  The installer seems to hang (atleast 45 min and no bail out) at the 
> 'Configuring VC++ 2008 redistributable' dialog stage.
>  
>  Apache OpenOffice 1759911 (4.2.0 nightly build)
>  OS: Windows 2016 TP5
>  Dialog: VC++ 2008 Redistributable x64 9.0.30729.6161
>  
>  Note: there is "no" Anti-Virus or Anti-Spyware application installed or 
> running.
>  
>  Please see the screenshot at
>  https://i.imgsafe.org/6170106283.png
>  
>  While i understand that VC++ 2008 redistributable is a dependency for Apache 
> Open Office 4.2.0, couple of points here
>  
>  1. the user experience gets affected, given the inordinate delay in 
> completing the installation.
>  
>  2. is there a way to let the user know, that a log entry can be reviewed to 
> know where we are stuck
>  
>  3. Is there a plan to bump up the 'baseline' for the VC++ compiler version 
> that Apache Open Office is built with ?
>  
>  Thanks for your time.
>  

Here is a quick update.

After another 15 min or so, the installer dialog popped a Retry dialog. I 
clicked the same and the installation completed successfully !

is there a way to know which secondary process in the installer is blocked or 
blocked waiting ?


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The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.

2016-09-11 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi:

Running the AOO 4.2.0 nightly build for Windows, i am trying to specify the 
Java JRE environment.

Environment
 . Windows 2016 TP5 server
 . Java JRE 1.8.0 update 102
 . AMD 64 APU A4

First of all the auto detection of the Java JRE environment does not happen.

So, i manually specify the following path

C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102

Please see
https://i.imgsafe.org/63600cc5a5.png

After a moment's delay, the followng dialog is seen.

The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.

Please see
https://i.imgsafe.org/6363a357ad.png

Attempting to specify the parent folder

C:\Program Files\Java

or the child folder

C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102\lib

leads to the same error.

Any pointer's as to how to address this issue ?


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Re: Read Only documents

2016-09-11 Thread Rick W. Davis
Julian:

I amforwarding  using Windows 10. I have checked each file property to find
none intentionally set as read-only.
I recently began seeing the read only addition to the file name when
opening previously created doc. files. Clicking the Edit icon in Open
Office causes the program to crash every time. I'm going to try
uninstalling Open Office, downloading the latest version and reinstalling.
Any other ideas?
Thanks for your quick response.

On Sep 11, 2016 2:11 PM, "Julian Thomas"  wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 2016, at 09:03, Rick Davis  wrote:
> >
> > I,ver been a user of Open Office for several years. Recently, files
that I've created with Word are opening as "read only", even though they
were not originally created or saved with that property.
> > The Help file tells me to toggle the "Edit File" icon to allow file
editing. When I click on the "Edit File" icon to edit the text document,
the program crashes.
> > Is there a setting to change the default away from "read only" or
another way that I can edit myself saved document files?
>
> You don't say what operating system you are using, but can you use a file
manager to see if the read-only bit is set for one of the files with the
problem is set?
>
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Re: The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.

2016-09-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:59:58 -0700
"Saifi Khan"  wrote:

> Hi:
> 
> Running the AOO 4.2.0 nightly build for Windows, i am trying to specify the 
> Java JRE environment.
> 
> Environment
>  . Windows 2016 TP5 server
>  . Java JRE 1.8.0 update 102
>  . AMD 64 APU A4
> 
> First of all the auto detection of the Java JRE environment does not happen.


OpenOffice, being a 32 bit application on Windows, needs a 32 bit Java 
installed and selected. You must download and install a 32 bit Java when using 
a 64 bit Windows.  Such 32 bit Java can be downloaded from www.java.com and 
will have 586 in its file name.

RoryOF


> 
> So, i manually specify the following path
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102
> 
> Please see
> https://i.imgsafe.org/63600cc5a5.png
> 
> After a moment's delay, the followng dialog is seen.
> 
> The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.
> 
> Please see
> https://i.imgsafe.org/6363a357ad.png
> 
> Attempting to specify the parent folder
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java
> 
> or the child folder
> 
> C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102\lib
> 
> leads to the same error.
> 
> Any pointer's as to how to address this issue ?
> 
> 
> warm regards
> Saifi.
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Re: The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.

2016-09-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:40:17 +0100
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:59:58 -0700
> "Saifi Khan"  wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Running the AOO 4.2.0 nightly build for Windows, i am trying to specify the 
> > Java JRE environment.
> > 
> > Environment
> >  . Windows 2016 TP5 server
> >  . Java JRE 1.8.0 update 102
> >  . AMD 64 APU A4
> > 
> > First of all the auto detection of the Java JRE environment does not happen.
> 
> 
> OpenOffice, being a 32 bit application on Windows, needs a 32 bit Java 
> installed and selected. You must download and install a 32 bit Java when 
> using a 64 bit Windows.  Such 32 bit Java can be downloaded from www.java.com 
> and will have 586 in its file name.
> 
> RoryOF

I did not notice that you were running the 4.2.0 nightly build.  I have no 
knowledge of whether this is 32 or 64 bits, so my previous answer may be 
misleading. If you are in a production environment it might be unwise to run a 
development version of OpenOffice.

RoryOF

> 
> 
> > 
> > So, i manually specify the following path
> > 
> > C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102
> > 
> > Please see
> > https://i.imgsafe.org/63600cc5a5.png
> > 
> > After a moment's delay, the followng dialog is seen.
> > 
> > The folder you selected does not contain a Java Runtime environment.
> > 
> > Please see
> > https://i.imgsafe.org/6363a357ad.png
> > 
> > Attempting to specify the parent folder
> > 
> > C:\Program Files\Java
> > 
> > or the child folder
> > 
> > C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.8.0_102\lib
> > 
> > leads to the same error.
> > 
> > Any pointer's as to how to address this issue ?
> > 
> > 
> > warm regards
> > Saifi.
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