Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
Den 2011-01-23 03:36:36 skrev John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:52:57 -0600 Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com dijo: On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash report already sent.) I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that substitutes the special character given a character pair (or triplet) that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago something where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u. I thought of that, but I don't want AutoCorrrect to change the combination all the time. What if I want to type: 1. The correct item for the task would be a: (a) frying pan, (b) stew pot, etc. In the above the a: would get converted to ä. I found an extension called Compose Special Character, but it takes almost as many keystrokes as just typing the Unicode value. It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. This seems to be a common problem for Windows users. I left Windows behind in summer 2007, which solved most of the problems I had, but there is no reason to do that only for a minor problem like this one… In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it → press → release → press O → release → the result is Ö. Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and so on. But you have Windows, right? Then I can inform you that there someone wrote something called ”AllChars”, which ”emulate” the Unix-like Compose key. It also adds a feature similar to Autocorrect, but since it works on your whole system, it works everywhere: In OpenOffice.org, your text editor, your email program, web browser, you name it. Since a couple of years ago it's Open Source too. Unfortunately it looks like AllChars are no longer developed, so maybe it won't work in Windows 7, I don't know, but I am sure there are other projects out there that does approximately the same thing. There is something called ”AutoHotKey”, but I am not sure whether it does the Compose key thing or not. I did some searching and also found Accent Composer: http://www.accentcomposer.com/ Maybe worth a try. -- Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64.
I need to create a stacked formula that looks
like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side):
{ OÌ }
{ OÌ }
{ UÌ }
{ AU }
I need the diacritics over the characters and
they must be added with the combining
diacriticals in the font that I am using
(Junicode). In case they didn't make it through
the e-mail, the top O has a macron (U304), the
second O and the U have short marks (U306), and
the AU has no diacritics. The font does not
contain these characters as combined
glyphs so I must use the combining diacriticals. I cannot switch fonts.
Although it doesn't appear in the e-mail, I need the stack center aligned.
The best I have accomplished is this syntax:
left lbrace alignc { #ï¯ Ì # O Ì # U Ì # AU } right rbrace
This gives me a brace only on the bottom
element, lots of ? marks, and an extra blank
line in the middle. None of the combining
diacriticals actually combine. Only the second element is center aligned.
I hope there is someone here who understands the
formula syntax, because it sure has me confused.
To create the large braces, you need the stack
instruction and one fewer hash marks:
left lbrace alignc stack { aaa # b # cc # d } right rbrace
(I've used simpler example elements here, so that
it will come through more reliably in e-mail.)
I don't see any way to insert special characters
in the formula (Math) window itself. But it is
perfectly possible to do so in a text (Writer)
window - which I imagine you are composing in
anyway - and then copy and paste them into the
formula window. By doing this, I have been able
to create exactly the effect and with the
characters and diacritics you describe. You can
change fonts at Format | Fonts... using Modify.
I trust this helps.
Brian Barker
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Re: [users] suggestion
michael thomas wrote: Hello, Open Office use to be a free alternative to Microsoft Office, that did not hog up your computers memory. Now its just a free alternative... To Bad! I even tried re-install with the 2 programs I really use. I saved a whopping 1 MB! Would Be Nice To Only Download The Only Ones We Need Without All The Fluff One thing to bear in mind is that with OpenOffice, you have a fully integrated package that shares a lot of common code between the various applications. This not only saves disk space over separate apps, but also improves function between the various applications. As one very basic example, you can, while in Writer, open a spread sheet. Also, while you can select individual components, it's not recommened because, as you found out, it won't save much disk space. It will also reduce some function in what you do install. So, bottom line, just install the entire package. After all, disk space is extremely cheap these days. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Can't Embed Movie File In Doc And No Link Menu Lit To Break
On 1/21/11 8:15 PM, Quinn wrote: On 1/14/11 8:47 AM, Lance wrote: On 1/14/11 5:00 AM, James Greenidge wrote: My previous post involved OOo 3.3 under Mac 10.4.11. Now I find I can't even insert a QT mov file in a Write doc under 10.5.8 (just get a question mark frame), much less embed it. However NeoOffice 3.1.2 does insert QT mov files into Writer under 10.5.8 but like OOo doesn't embed and keep mov files. Looks like I'll have to retrogress to a much earlier OOo to do the job it once did. On 1/13/11 12:04 PM, James Greenidge wrote: I'm trying to embed a QuickTime movie file into a Write document, and the Help instructions which claim to insert it then go to Edit menu to reach Link and break the link there doesn't work because Link is not active. Saving the file only results in a small-sized document with a ? in place of the video file in the document. So how can I break a link to a QT mov file that I just inserted so it'll stay embedded (portable self-contained) when the Link menu item isn't highlighted for me to do such? Thanks for any hints! I find this true on my MacBook running Leopard. It leaves a question marked shaded screen when you attempt to paste a video file in. It also happens when you load an old doc with a video insert which was created and played perfectly well in Tiger and Panther. Even MS Office eats it up. This is definitely a OOO 3.0 bug. Bummer multimedia. For Mac users, SOUND and MOVIE Help states that these formats aren't available on some operating systems. All these features work under XP and Vista and 7 and Linux, but MacOS always lacked support for self-contained multimedia documents. Hope this helps. It works in Mint?? Can't believe they overlooked Mac like this! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On 01/22/2011 10:02 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:53:15 -0500 webmas...@krackedpress.comwebmas...@krackedpress.com dijo: How often do you need these special characters in your documents? I remember the Unicode option in Word. I like OOo's option better than trying to remember the Unicode number. You can see the special letter as your font would show it. I am working on a document that will be 20 pages of mixed English, Spanish and German. Insert Special Character would take forever. Have you tried using a virtual keyboard? I have used them in the past, but on Windows. The virtual keyboard is shown on the screen and you point-and-click the keyboard keys you like to type. If you have one on screen that has the non-English characters you use, it might work for you. Have you physical keyboard in English, and you virtual one in the languages you need. I use to use one on a system when it required an old style keyboard and I only had a semi-working one to use. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] suggestion
On 01/23/2011 07:42 AM, James Knott wrote: michael thomas wrote: Hello, Open Office use to be a free alternative to Microsoft Office, that did not hog up your computers memory. Now its just a free alternative... To Bad! I even tried re-install with the 2 programs I really use. I saved a whopping 1 MB! Would Be Nice To Only Download The Only Ones We Need Without All The Fluff One thing to bear in mind is that with OpenOffice, you have a fully integrated package that shares a lot of common code between the various applications. This not only saves disk space over separate apps, but also improves function between the various applications. As one very basic example, you can, while in Writer, open a spread sheet. Also, while you can select individual components, it's not recommened because, as you found out, it won't save much disk space. It will also reduce some function in what you do install. So, bottom line, just install the entire package. After all, disk space is extremely cheap these days. Well, unless you computer is over 5 years old, you should be able to use a 1TB drive. They are running about $70 or $80 right now. I bought my system where 1TB was the default drive. I also bought an external USB/Firewire 1TB drive as well to share between my Vista laptop and my Ubuntu desktop. Soon I hope to add a second 1TB drive to my desktop for even more storage, since I have the desktop filled us with 800 gig and almost the same with the external one as my backup storage. So, unlike companies like Adobe that requires 2 gig of files space for just one of their packages, OpenOffice.org used very little space, under 200 meg on a Windows system [or at least the last time I installed it on my Vista laptop]. As far as I remember, OOo installs needing much less than MSO does. Also OOo is much easier to use than MSO. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] suggestion
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Well, unless you computer is over 5 years old, you should be able to use a 1TB drive. Last year, I spent about $90 (CDN) for a 500 GB drive for my PVR, so even older computers can go that big. Of course, it's usually easy to add more drives and move the /home directory (My Documents in Windows) to it. This also brings the benefit of having your data on a different drive than the OS, which makes OS installs or upgrades much safer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On 1/22/2011 8:36 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:52:57 -0600 Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com dijo: On 1/22/2011 6:25 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo, no the repositories) on Fedora 14 x86_64. I've searched and I can't find how to set the shortcut keys for entering characters with accents, or what shortcut keys exist by default. E.g., I wish to type á, é, ü, etc. in an English document. I do not wish to change to a different keyboard. I can enter the characters by Unicode code point, but that is a pain if you have a lot of them to do. The default shortcuts would probably suffice if I could just figure out what they are. I cannot search the Help because any searches in Help crash OOo. (Crash report already sent.) I haven't had to deal with this, but how about an AutoCorrect that substitutes the special character given a character pair (or triplet) that would not ordinarily occur? I can remember long ago something where if you typed u: (for example), it would create the umlauted u. I thought of that, but I don't want AutoCorrrect to change the combination all the time. What if I want to type: 1. The correct item for the task would be a: (a) frying pan, (b) stew pot, etc. In the above the a: would get converted to ä. That's why not normally used is important. if you're willing to use a triplet, you could maybe use something like vbar as the first character, followed by the pair that designates the character. Or if you're aware of the unwanted substitution right away, Ctrl-Z should get you back to the uncorrected text, since the substitution was the most recent action. Allchars, or something similar, is probably a better solution, though. I found an extension called Compose Special Character, but it takes almost as many keystrokes as just typing the Unicode value. It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] corrupted file?
On 1/22/2011 6:26 PM, ignasi gispert wrote: Dear All, Just when I was going to print out attached file, opennoffice just mada a loop by recovering recovery failed and appear again the recovering, etc etc. Had the 3.1 openoffice verision.Suddently no file openned... I tried to desinstall office 3.1 but did not allowed me. Finally I send to the bin the attached file and manage to install openoffice 3.2. Then all files opened but this one again and with the same loop problem. Windows XP. Any idea? Thanks for your help! Rgds igpi [ Ignasi (i...@ibertrading.es) is not subscribed and probably will not see any responses unless directly copied.] You can avoid the loop by choosing Cancel instead of Start Recovery when you bring up OOo the next time after a failure like this. If you need to try recovering the file content from the corrupted file, you can unzip it and try putting the main document piece into an unzipped copy of a new file, then zipping that. May or may not work, though -- I hope you had a backup copy!
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 12:26:44 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:
At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote:
OOo 3.2.1 (from OOo) on Fedora 14, x86_64.
I need to create a stacked formula that looks
like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each
side):
{ Ō }
{ Ŏ }
{ Ŭ }
{ AU }
I hope there is someone here who understands the
formula syntax, because it sure has me confused.
To create the large braces, you need the stack
instruction and one fewer hash marks:
left lbrace alignc stack { aaa # b # cc # d } right rbrace
I don't see any way to insert special characters
in the formula (Math) window itself. But it is
perfectly possible to do so in a text (Writer)
window - which I imagine you are composing in
anyway - and then copy and paste them into the
formula window. By doing this, I have been able
to create exactly the effect and with the
characters and diacritics you describe. You can
change fonts at Format | Fonts... using Modify.
I trust this helps.
That helped a lot!
It was the stack that I was missing.
I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They
work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. However, I
found a workaround. Using breve in front of the ones with the short
mark and overline on the ones with the macron the result is just
about perfect. Close enough that no one will notice that the breve and
overline in the formula are not exactly the same as the combining
diacritics built into the font.
I just have two small issues left:
1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. The regular
text in the document is set at 14 points fixed leading, and it would be
great to be able to set the lines in the stack to the same. But it's a
formula, so if the leading doesn't match exactly it's not the end of
the world. But at the moment the lines look like about 20 points, which
looks odd.
2) The AU on the bottom line is kerned too far apart. I tried setting
the kerning with character formatting but, like the other formatting
things I tried, regular text formatting does not work inside a formula.
Is there a way to adjust letter spacing in a formula?
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[users] Assigning keyboard shortcuts does not work
I am using OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 on Mac os x 10.6.6. I have gone through the procedure outlined on the Wiki page “Assigning shortcut keys” many times and with different combination of functions and keys. These newly assigned keys appear in the Keys column for the appropriate categories and functions. However, when I try to use them in a text document, nothing happens. What do I need to do to make the shortcut keys work? I am not subscribed to this list, please cc me. Thanks, Tamara
[users] Creating a title page
Restarting a thread: (originally 'Page numbers and footers are being deleted' ...) I wish to create a title page on a document of about 17 pages. In response to the previous thread, I have received a lot of great information, but still am not able to make progress. So I understand that my goal properly speaking is to modify the document so that the first page is a title page. Given the instructions that I have received from you good people and from the links that I have looked at: 1)I have tried to insert a manual page break following the first page. Here's what I do: Placing the cursor at the bottom of the first page, I choose Insert - Manual Break - Default. It appears that the break is inserted *but* a line is inserted into the next page. This is not acceptable, but can be corrected (I think) by deleting the top line of the following page. I note also that the instructions at http://doc.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_page_styles Refer to a New Chapter style option. There is none in our copies of OO. 2)Setting the first page to the First Page style. Disturbing. Here is what I do: With the cursor on the botton of the first page, I pick Format - Styles and Formatting and get a popup window title Styles and Formatting. From the five icons at the top left of this window, I click on the second to the rightmost (tooltip says Page Styles) and then I click on First Page. Nothing happens! And there is not an OK button or any other type of commit button on this window. Now, if I *Double Click* the Styles and Formatting window closes and I now see that the status bar at the bottom of the page says First Page but! Extra lines have been inserted and that is bad! Although they can be deleted. Furthermore, if I save the document, and reopen it, the style for the first page has been reverted to Default. Aargh! I am a programmer but unfamiliar with Word Processors. So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks -- Tim tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com http://www.akwebsoft.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
At 09:50 23/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side): [...] I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. That's a pity. Do persevere: they certainly worked for me (3.1.1 on Windows XP). I used the Unicode characters you mentioned, and they worked in the default Times New Roman Italic. I just have two small issues left: 1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. Go to Format | Spacing..., under Category select Spacing, and reduce the value for Line spacing. Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: Restarting a thread: (originally 'Page numbers and footers are being deleted' ...) I wish to create a title page on a document of about 17 pages. In response to the previous thread, I have received a lot of great information, but still am not able to make progress. So I understand that my goal properly speaking is to modify the document so that the first page is a title page. Given the instructions that I have received from you good people and from the links that I have looked at: 1)I have tried to insert a manual page break following the first page. Here's what I do: Placing the cursor at the bottom of the first page, I choose Insert - Manual Break - Default. It appears that the break is inserted *but* a line is inserted into the next page. This is not acceptable, but can be corrected (I think) by deleting the top line of the following page. I note also that the instructions at http://doc.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_page_styles Refer to a New Chapter style option. There is none in our copies of OO. 2)Setting the first page to the First Page style. Disturbing. Here is what I do: With the cursor on the botton of the first page, I pick Format - Styles and Formatting and get a popup window title Styles and Formatting. From the five icons at the top left of this window, I click on the second to the rightmost (tooltip says Page Styles) and then I click on First Page. Nothing happens! And there is not an OK button or any other type of commit button on this window. Now, if I *Double Click* the Styles and Formatting window closes and I now see that the status bar at the bottom of the page says First Page but! Extra lines have been inserted and that is bad! Although they can be deleted. Furthermore, if I save the document, and reopen it, the style for the first page has been reverted to Default. Aargh! I am a programmer but unfamiliar with Word Processors. So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. Second, you should start a new thread/message and not reply to an existing thread and just change the subject. Most modern mail readers use information within the hidden headers to link related messages, threads, and you message can be missed by someone that could help. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
* RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net [110123 10:41]: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. It is being saved as a .doc extension. I had thought of that also. We can't send this to the recipient as an odt file, I don't think that they would be able to open an odt file. Perhaps we should save as an odt, than see if we can make things work and then make a final copy as .doc. What do you think? Second, you should start a new thread/message and not reply to an existing thread and just change the subject. Most modern mail readers use information within the hidden headers to link related messages, threads, and you message can be missed by someone that could help. I'm very embarassed about that. Of course I know better - I've been using internet, email and mailing lists since the dawn of the internet. I just forgot to delete the 'In-Reply-To' item. Very sorry! -- Tim tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com http://www.akwebsoft.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On 1/23/2011 1:00 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: Restarting a thread: (originally 'Page numbers and footers are being deleted' ...) I wish to create a title page on a document of about 17 pages. In response to the previous thread, I have received a lot of great information, but still am not able to make progress. So I understand that my goal properly speaking is to modify the document so that the first page is a title page. Given the instructions that I have received from you good people and from the links that I have looked at: 1)I have tried to insert a manual page break following the first page. Here's what I do: Placing the cursor at the bottom of the first page, I choose Insert - Manual Break - Default. It appears that the break is inserted *but* a line is inserted into the next page. This is not acceptable, but can be corrected (I think) by deleting the top line of the following page. When I do this, the cursor is at the beginning of a null paragraph; it's expecting the text for this page to be entered starting there, there is no actual content yet. If you had actual text beginning on the first page and flowing to the second, you don't need the manual break. If you had existing text that began on the old second page that was itself created by inserting a page break and you still want to have that begin the second page, just use the Delete key to eliminate the old page break. I note also that the instructions at http://doc.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Using_page_styles Refer to a New Chapter style option. There is none in our copies of OO. I think the assumption was that you'd have created your own page style of that name. Could be clearer, though! 2)Setting the first page to the First Page style. Disturbing. Here is what I do: With the cursor on the botton of the first page, I pick Format - Styles and Formatting and get a popup window title Styles and Formatting. From the five icons at the top left of this window, I click on the second to the rightmost (tooltip says Page Styles) and then I click on First Page. Nothing happens! You need to double-click a style, not just click, to apply it. For pages (and paragraphs), the style is applied to the whole page (or paragraph) based on current cursor position; for character styles, you first need to select the text (or set the style, then enter the text). And there is not an OK button or any other type of commit button on this window. The double-click itself is the commitment. The window is really a toolbar, not a dialog, so this is consistent with normal practice. (It can be docked to an edge, for example; I usually have it up and docked to the right edge. Now, if I *Double Click* the Styles and Formatting window closes and I now see that the status bar at the bottom of the page says First Page but! Extra lines have been inserted and that is bad! Although they can be deleted. I've never seen any new paragraphs (extra lines) created by this action. I just checked with a test document and no such change occurred. Furthermore, if I save the document, and reopen it, the style for the first page has been reverted to Default. Aargh! I am a programmer but unfamiliar with Word Processors. Again, I can't reproduce this behavior. If you could send me the file privately (or a non-confidential file that you have the same problem with) I'll see if I can determine what's happening. (I'm b...@onr.com.) So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Help with Insert Object Formula
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:05:52 + Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo: At 09:50 23/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: At 18:55 22/01/2011 -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: I need to create a stacked formula that looks like this (assume the braces are a single scalable brace on each side): [...] I still couldn't get the combining diacritics over the characters. They work fine in regular text in Writer, but not in the formula. That's a pity. Do persevere: they certainly worked for me (3.1.1 on Windows XP). I used the Unicode characters you mentioned, and they worked in the default Times New Roman Italic. While adjusting spacing per your suggestion below I noted that Text Mode was not checked. I checked it hoping that it would resolve the problem, but it had no effect. I don't know what Text Mode does, actually. But the breve and overline work well enough. I just have two small issues left: 1) The spacing between lines in the stack is too great. Go to Format | Spacing..., under Category select Spacing, and reduce the value for Line spacing. The inter-character spacing was set to 15%. After setting it to 0% the character spacing is still a little wider than normal text, but so slightly that I am the only one who would ever notice. However, the line spacing was already set to 0%, and you can't enter a negative number. I'm still stuck with too much line spacing. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On Sun Jan 23 2011 12:05:20 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: * RA Brown rabr...@the-martin-byrd.net [110123 10:41]: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. It is being saved as a .doc extension. I had thought of that also. We can't send this to the recipient as an odt file, I don't think that they would be able to open an odt file. Perhaps we should save as an odt, than see if we can make things work and then make a final copy as .doc. What do you think? If possible a better option would be as a PDF as it will retain the formating, if not possible then as to DOC for the final at least that way you do not lose your/her work. Second, you should start a new thread/message and not reply to an existing thread and just change the subject. Most modern mail readers use information within the hidden headers to link related messages, threads, and you message can be missed by someone that could help. I'm very embarassed about that. Of course I know better - I've been using internet, email and mailing lists since the dawn of the internet. I just forgot to delete the 'In-Reply-To' item. Very sorry! It happens and it was only a suggestion. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: snip So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc, and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept .pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the formatting. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Basic help with the Open Office Mathematics program.
On 1/21/2011 12:45 PM, Michael Adams wrote: There are actually two programs built in. Some of these questions seem to relate to one (Calc) and other questions seem to relate to the other program (Math). On Friday 21 January 2011 01:11, FRANCES MICHAEL wrote: Hi there forum members! I am a mathematics teacher. I am trying to construct a mathematics website and I am trying to produce my own worksheets. Worksheets are the domain of Calc which is the OpenOffice.org equivalent of Microsoft Office Excel. There are differences. I would like to use the Open Office Mathematics program for these tasks but, unfortunately, I do not understand how to use it at all well. There are 3 initial questions that I would like to ask for someone's help with because I cannot work the answers out for myself: What does, for example, A9 mean? A9 in a sheet is a refence to a cell. To explain it simply start OpenOffice.org Calc: 1. Type 6 into cell B2 then tap the [Enter] key. 2. Type 3 into cell D4, [Enter]. 3. In cell E2 type the formula =B2+D4, [Enter]. 4. In cell F2 type the legend Cell B2 + Cell D4 5. In cell E3 type the formula =sum(b2,d4,e2) 6. In cell E4 type the formula =B2*D4 7. In cell E5 type the formula =B2/D4 8. In cell E6 type the formula =B2-D4 9. In cell g2 type the formula =e4*b2/7 How do I create a power of a number? =B2^D4 Math is a bit different. It is designed to show your formulas in standard mathematical notation for printing. It does not do any calculations. So to answer this question in the formula editor of Math a sup b would be written in the bottom Commands window. After a second the layout would appear in the top formula window. The example a and b i gave can be replaced with any letter/s or number/s. How do I create a fraction? In Calc, format the cells as fractions. From the menu Format - Cells..., Numbers tab, Category, scroll down and select Fractions. In math, in the Commands window type a/b If anyone can help me, I would be most grateful. Michael Neillis HTH Addressing the format issue for Math not Calc, when you enter 1/4 you get 1/4 in the output above. When you input 1 over 4 you get and actual 1 above a line above a 4. A space can be input using `, while a larger space is represented by ~ Both use the same key, next to 1 on the top of the keyboard. Hope this helps a little bit. Tom -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? -- Decimus Iunius Iuvenalis (Juvenal), Roman Poet, late 1st, early 2nd century AD (Who will protect us from the protectors?) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
* Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com [110123 12:58]: On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: snip So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc, and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept .pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the formatting. :) To make a long story short, the solution was reached by first saving to an .odt format. We found then that we could save the finished product retaining the desired formatting. Now: I am trying to figure out how to delete all but the first 3 pages. on vim all I have to do is type `vgox' blush couldn't resist that one. thanks again and good tip on the pdf format - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org -- Tim tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com http://www.akwebsoft.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On Sun Jan 23 2011 14:03:14 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: * Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com [110123 12:58]: On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: snip So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc, and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept .pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the formatting. :) To make a long story short, the solution was reached by first saving to an .odt format. We found then that we could save the finished product retaining the desired formatting. Now: I am trying to figure out how to delete all but the first 3 pages. on vim all I have to do is type `vgox' blush couldn't resist that one. thanks again and good tip on the pdf format My offer still stands. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
On 1/23/2011 4:03 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: * Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com [110123 12:58]: On 1/23/2011 1:32 PM, RA Brown wrote: On Sun Jan 23 2011 11:00:33 GMT-0800 (PST) Tim Johnson wrote: snip So to ask the first question: Why are separate page styles not being saved? NOTE: This document is subject to very strict standards by the recipient. thanks First, what format are you saving the file as. ODT or DOC? If the later that is the problem as OOo does not inport or export to DOC with 100% fidelity and some things get lost in the translation. Good catch, Andy! Tim, Word (at least prior to Office 2007, and therefore in the .doc format; not sure about the newer formats) has no concept of page styles, so that aspect of OOo can't be carried from .odt into .doc, and therefore is not there when you reopen the file in Writer (when there is again a conversion into .odt while Writer is working on the file). So you should stay with .odt until you send the document off. If they accept .pdf files, that will be the most reliable way to make sure they see what you do. Otherwise, you might want to get the free viewer from Microsoft so you can check the .doc file, since they're so strict about the formatting. :) To make a long story short, the solution was reached by first saving to an .odt format. We found then that we could save the finished product retaining the desired formatting. Now: I am trying to figure out how to delete all but the first 3 pages. on vim all I have to do is type `vgox' blush couldn't resist that one. thanks again and good tip on the pdf format Put your cursor after the last character you want to keep; Shift-Ctrl-End to select to the end of the document; Backspace or Delete. Not too bad, is it? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Creating a title page
* Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com [110123 14:14]: On 1/23/2011 4:03 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: * Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com [110123 12:58]: thanks again and good tip on the pdf format Put your cursor after the last character you want to keep; Shift-Ctrl-End to select to the end of the document; Backspace or Delete. Not too bad, is it? Bingo. :) Almost as good as vim. Thanks and thanks also to Andy. cheers -- Tim tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com http://www.akwebsoft.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] MS .ppt doesn't convert
Hi - I'm running ubuntu 10.10 and OO 3.2 and I'm having trouble with a conversion from MS Powerpoint to Presentation. I'm trying to convert a .ppt deck created by my daughter's Chinese teacher that is designed, when it presentation mode, to show one page with seven mini decks, if you will. When run under MS Office Powerpoint as a presentation it shows multiple areas which transition from image to image. For example, area 1: a Chinese character, the English word, and then a piece of word art. Area 2,same as above, etc. All on one page. When I look at it in OO Presentation it comes close, but the shapes in these presentation spaces are the wrong size, are overlapping one another and present in the wrong order. Any help would be really, really appreciated. Reid
Re: [users] Shortcuts for special characters
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:42:55 +0100 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com dijo: It has been a long time since I used Word, but I recall all you did was type Alt, then the letter combination (e.g., a:), and it automatically converted the letter combination. If the Alt was not followed by one of the built in letter combinations, then the Alt was ignored. I've looked everywhere, but I can't find such a feature in Writer. I find this surprising. In Unix-like operating systems you have the Compose key (at least if your desktop environment is Gnome), which is useful for things like this. What you do is that you define a Compose key (I use the otherwise useless Caps Lock for that, but other options are available). It works like this: Press your Compose key → release it → press → release → press O → release → the result is Ö. Looks complicated, but just try it. You need to press three keys to create an Ö or any of the other characters, like á, ë, œ, Ø, ø and so on. This is what I was looking for. I assumed it would be in OOo, but this is even better because it is system-wide. I use Gnome on Fedora 14, but I have never looked at the keyboard settings. Using your suggestion I changed the useless Windows key to a compose key and now I can get the diacritics I need. The only things I am lacking are ¿, and ¡. I can't figure out what the secret key is to get those. E.g., for á I type press the Windows key, type an apostrophe and then the a. The Windows compose key turns the apostophe into a dead key for the acute accent, so the secret key is the apostrophe. But I can't figure out what the secret keys for ¿ and ¡ are. There must be a table somewhere in the Gnome documentation, but I can't find it. Thanks for the information! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
