Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2010-10-31 21:38:52 skrev Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com:


John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:



I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I
have installed.


I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus,
for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF.

The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter.
It is a very open license.

As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an
entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually
and apply the new font.


And exactly why don't you use styles?



It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or
Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.


  You did not mention what you did in Impress to create the PDF  
document. Did you use the PDF icon? Or, did you use the File  Export as  
PDF?
  The easiest way to change font families (Bitstream Vera Sans  
Regular and Bold to DejaVu) is to change the font in the Styles and  
Formatting dialog (F11 key). With your presentation opened in Impress,  
type the F11 key to open this dialog. At the top of this dialog are two  
icons on the left side: Graphics Styles and Presentations Styles. Make  
sure the Presentation Styles is selected. The styles you must concern  
yourself are the ones you used (perhaps without knowing it) among these:  
Notes, Outline 1, , Outline 9, Subtitle, and Title. Right click the  
style whose font you want to change and click Modify. Select the font  
you want from the list. Click OK. I'm fairly certain that directions as  
to how to modify any of these styles are found in the Impress Guide.  
(The latest version should be available through the OOo website (Wiki  
section) in the next week or so.) This guide contains quite a bit of  
information about how to use Impress if you want much more information.  
The chapter Getting Started with Impress from the Getting Started  
Guide will likely give you all the information you need about modifying  
a Presentation Style in Impress. It may be all you need.


Dan


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[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-11-01 Thread John Jason Jordan
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have
installed.

Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different
printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including
one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the
text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera
Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was
converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color.

If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the
text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera
Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the
same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text
prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again
without font metrics.

I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly
installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the
Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a
font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly
installed.

I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome.

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[users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I have
installed.

Then I tried printing to file. I did this several times using different
printer drivers (I have six Postscript printers installed, including
one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the
text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera
Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was
converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color.

If I print to paper on a plain Laserjet using the PCL driver all the
text prints, but without font metrics, and only the bold prints in Vera
Sans; somehow Times was substituted for the regular. If I print to the
same printer using the (genuine Adobe) Postscript driver all the text
prints, but Courier regular was substituted for both fonts; and again
without font metrics.

I verified that Bitstream Vera Sans regular and bold are properly
installed. I did this by opening Scribus and setting some type with the
Vera Sans fonts. Scribus is a layout app that will never substitute a
font. I also used Fontmatrix to verify that the fonts are correctly
installed.

I am out of ideas. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com dijo:

I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I
have installed.

I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus,
for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF.

The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter.
It is a very open license.

As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an
entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually
and apply the new font.

It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or
Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread Daniel Lewis

John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:

   

I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I
have installed.
 

I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus,
for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF.

The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter.
It is a very open license.

As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an
entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually
and apply the new font.

It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or
Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

   
 You did not mention what you did in Impress to create the PDF 
document. Did you use the PDF icon? Or, did you use the File  Export as 
PDF?
 The easiest way to change font families (Bitstream Vera Sans 
Regular and Bold to DejaVu) is to change the font in the Styles and 
Formatting dialog (F11 key). With your presentation opened in Impress, 
type the F11 key to open this dialog. At the top of this dialog are two 
icons on the left side: Graphics Styles and Presentations Styles. Make 
sure the Presentation Styles is selected. The styles you must concern 
yourself are the ones you used (perhaps without knowing it) among these: 
Notes, Outline 1, , Outline 9, Subtitle, and Title. Right click the 
style whose font you want to change and click Modify. Select the font 
you want from the list. Click OK. I'm fairly certain that directions as 
to how to modify any of these styles are found in the Impress Guide. 
(The latest version should be available through the OOo website (Wiki 
section) in the next week or so.) This guide contains quite a bit of 
information about how to use Impress if you want much more information. 
The chapter Getting Started with Impress from the Getting Started 
Guide will likely give you all the information you need about modifying 
a Presentation Style in Impress. It may be all you need.


Dan

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:44 31/10/2010 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an 
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple 
of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font 
for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell 
individually and apply the new font.


Er, where do you get those ideas?

1.  To change the font in a table, select the entire table and make 
your change.


2.  To change a font globally:
o  Go to Edit | Find  Replace (or Ctrl+F).
o  Click More Options.
o  Put the cursor into the Search for box.
o  Click Format... .
o  Select the font attributes of the text you need to alter.
o  Click OK.
o  Put the cursor into the Replace with box.
o  Click Format... .
o  Select the new font attributes required.
o  Click OK.
o  Click Replace All.

3.  Instead of applying font attributes locally to text, use styles - 
a character style or a paragraph style.  When you wish to change a 
font, you need make only a single change to the appropriate style.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread Brian Barker

At 20:49 31/10/2010 +, I wrote:

At 12:44 31/10/2010 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an 
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple 
of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font 
for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell 
individually and apply the new font.


Er, where do you get those ideas?


Oh, dear: my apologies.  You were writing about an Impress 
presentation and I was thinking of a text (Writer) document.  So what 
I said clearly missed the point.  Sorry about that.


Mind you, you might be able to achieve something by copying text into 
Writer and back again.  Or not.


Sorry that didn't help.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 21:07, John Jason Jordan johnjas...@gmail.com wrote:
 uding
 one with Adobe PS Level 3). When I open the .ps file I find that the
 text appears, but somehow Times was substituted for the Bitstream Vera
 Sans. And the text appeared without font metrics. Also all color was
 converted to grayscale, even though one of the printers is full color.


Make sure that you do not have font substitution enabled.
Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Fonts

-- 
Dotan Cohen

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:00:39 +
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:

At 20:49 31/10/2010 +, I wrote:
At 12:44 31/10/2010 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an 
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple 
of tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font 
for an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell 
individually and apply the new font.

Er, where do you get those ideas?

Oh, dear: my apologies.  You were writing about an Impress 
presentation and I was thinking of a text (Writer) document.  So what 
I said clearly missed the point.  Sorry about that.

Mind you, you might be able to achieve something by copying text into 
Writer and back again.  Or not.

Sorry that didn't help.

Thanks to all for the suggestions. It turns out that I could have done
most of it by changing the default style. However, changing the default
style still did not affect the tables. I had to do those manually, one
cell at a time. I am amazed that you cannot apply a font by selecting
the entire table. 

And yes, I am very familiar with styles. I have been using Writer for
years and always use styles because most of my writing is destined for
layout in Scribus. Scribus will import Writer text and maintain the
styles. I always have the styles dialog box open. However, in this case
I didn't bother because I just had 17 slides and I mostly created them
by duplicating a previous slide. Thus, all I had to do was set the font
in the text frame on the first slide and for each subsequent slide I
just deleted the text in the frame and typed in the new text.

None of this would have been necessary if OOo did not have a bug
causing it not to embed Bitstream Vera fonts.

I also note that when I am typing in Writer with the styles dialog box
open, whatever style I am typing in is highlighted. If I move the cursor
to an area of text where a different style is applied, the dialog box
immediately highlights the style of the new text area. In Impress I
always had the style dialog box open, but none of the styles were ever
highlighted.

Anyway, the problem is resolved. I'm just dismayed at the poor
formatting available in Impress compared to Writer. Luckily I rarely
need to use Impress.

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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread Daniel Lewis

John Jason Jordan wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:

   

I created a presentation in Impress (3.1.1 from OOo, not from the
repositories, on Fedora 11, x86_64) in which I used the fonts Bitstream
Vera Sans Regular and Bold. When I export to PDF all text appears as
just blank boxes for the letters. I get the same view of the PDF with
Adobe Reader, Okular, Evince, and a couple other PDF viewers that I
have installed.
 

I have discovered that the problem is apparently in OOo. Scribus,
for example, is happy to embed the fonts in a PDF.

The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that matter.
It is a very open license.

As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for an
entire table - you have to select the text in each cell individually
and apply the new font.

It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences or
Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

   
 Where did these tables come from? Did you create them on the slide 
using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar?
 I'm using OOo 3.3.0 RC2, so there may be some improvements since 
3.1.1. I created a new presentation and created a table of 5 columns and 
15 rows using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar. Then I clicked the 
left top cell. The Table toolbar opened. The Table Properties icon is on 
the right end of the bottom row of this toolbar. Using this icon, I can 
set or modify the font for a single cell if only one cell is 
highlighted. When I select two or more adjacent cells, I can set or 
modify the font for all of the selected cells. Since then I have created 
a PDF file using File  Export as PDF. When I opened the PDF Preview 
(MAC PDF and image program), the fonts in the table look very much like 
the fonts in the table on the slide. (I used two different fonts in the 
table.) So, perhaps, what you found is a bug that has been corrected. (I 
do know that there have been several changes made in the Impress module 
for the 3.3.0 version due out soon: enough so that several changes 
needed to be made in the Impress Guide to keep it up to date.)


Dan


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Re: [users] Help! Export to PDF not embedding fonts

2010-10-31 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 21:30:37 -0400
Daniel Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com dijo:

John Jason Jordan wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:07:28 -0700
 John Jason Jordanjohnjas...@gmail.com  dijo:

 The Bitstream Vera family apparently came with the Gnome desktop, at
 least reading the license leads to this conclusion. There is no
 prohibition on embedding, or just about anything else for that
 matter. It is a very open license.

 As a workaround I changed the entire document to DejaVu. It took an
 hour because you can't change a font globally. And I have a couple of
 tables of five columns and 15 rows. You can't even change a font for
 an entire table - you have to select the text in each cell
 individually and apply the new font.

 It could be that the problem with OOo 3.1.1 is due to a setting
 somewhere in OOo. However, I couldn't find any place in Preferences
 or Options to change font behavior. If there is a place to change the
 embedding of a font, someone please tell me where it is.

  Where did these tables come from? Did you create them on the
 slide using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar?

I used Insert  Table, rather than the icon on the toolbar. But that
should make no difference. The important issue is that the tables were
created de novo in Impress, not brought in from Writer or elsewhere.

  I'm using OOo 3.3.0 RC2, so there may be some improvements since 
3.1.1. I created a new presentation and created a table of 5 columns
and 15 rows using the Table icon in the Standard toolbar. Then I
clicked the left top cell. The Table toolbar opened. The Table
Properties icon is on the right end of the bottom row of this toolbar.
Using this icon, I can set or modify the font for a single cell if
only one cell is highlighted. When I select two or more adjacent
cells, I can set or modify the font for all of the selected cells.
Since then I have created a PDF file using File  Export as PDF. When
I opened the PDF Preview (MAC PDF and image program), the fonts in the
table look very much like the fonts in the table on the slide. (I used
two different fonts in the table.) So, perhaps, what you found is a
bug that has been corrected. (I do know that there have been several
changes made in the Impress module for the 3.3.0 version due out soon:
enough so that several changes needed to be made in the Impress Guide
to keep it up to date.)

It's good to know that the ability to apply a font to all cells of a
table is finally possible. 

As for the Bitstream Vera fonts not being embedded in a PDF and not
printing, that is almost surely a bug in 3.1.1. The font license does
not prohibit embedding or printing, plus the fonts came with Gnome, so
surely they are openly embeddable. All the rest of my apps can embed
them in PDFs and print them to my printers.

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