[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
 Hi All:

 I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date choice
 of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format, but I
 cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how to do
 it otherwise.

 Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

What are your language settings?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


 Many thanks,

 Irv.

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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Irv [K3IRV] McWherter
I am using Default - English (USA)

Irv.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.comwrote:

 2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
  Hi All:
 
  I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date
 choice
  of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format,
 but I
  cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how to
 do
  it otherwise.
 
  Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

 What are your language settings?


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 
  Many thanks,
 
  Irv.
 
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 those
  entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it
  into tyranny”
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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Irv [K3IRV] McWherter
I live in the Eastern USA.  Many thanks for the replies, but someone
contacted me privately and showed me the way to correct the problem.

Thanks for all your help.

Irv.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am using Default - English (USA)

 Irv.


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg 
 gurus.knu...@gmail.comwrote:

 2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
  Hi All:
 
  I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date
 choice
  of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format,
 but I
  cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how to
 do
  it otherwise.
 
  Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

 What are your language settings?


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 
  Many thanks,
 
  Irv.
 
  --
  “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government)
 those
  entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it
  into tyranny”
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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Martin du Saire
In Calc:

FormatCells...  (or right-click in the cell to be formatted) to open the
cell formatting dialog box.  Scroll down to Date and select the format.
Otherwise key in your own format in the 'Format code' box.

M

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.comwrote:

 I live in the Eastern USA.  Many thanks for the replies, but someone
 contacted me privately and showed me the way to correct the problem.

 Thanks for all your help.

 Irv.


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter 
 irv4...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am using Default - English (USA)

 Irv.


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
  Hi All:
 
  I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date
 choice
  of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format,
 but I
  cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how
 to do
  it otherwise.
 
  Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

 What are your language settings?


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 
  Many thanks,
 
  Irv.
 
  --
  “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government)
 those
  entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted
 it
  into tyranny”
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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Irv [K3IRV] McWherter
Thank you Martin.

Irv.

2011/9/4 Martin du Saire mdusa...@umn.edu

 In Calc:

 FormatCells...  (or right-click in the cell to be formatted) to open the
 cell formatting dialog box.  Scroll down to Date and select the format.
 Otherwise key in your own format in the 'Format code' box.

 M


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter 
 irv4...@gmail.comwrote:

 I live in the Eastern USA.  Many thanks for the replies, but someone
 contacted me privately and showed me the way to correct the problem.

 Thanks for all your help.

 Irv.


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I am using Default - English (USA)

 Irv.


 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg 
 gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
  Hi All:
 
  I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date
 choice
  of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format,
 but I
  cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how
 to do
  it otherwise.
 
  Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

 What are your language settings?


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 
  Many thanks,
 
  Irv.
 
  --
  “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government)
 those
  entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted
 it
  into tyranny”
 Thomas Jefferson
 
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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Doug

On 09/04/2011 12:02 PM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter wrote:
I live in the Eastern USA.  Many thanks for the replies, but someone 
contacted me privately and showed me the way to correct the problem.


Thanks for all your help.

Irv.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter 
irv4...@gmail.com mailto:irv4...@gmail.com wrote:


I am using Default - English (USA)

Irv.


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg
gurus.knu...@gmail.com mailto:gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com
mailto:irv4...@gmail.com:
 Hi All:

 I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to
allow a date choice
 of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in
this format, but I
 cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I
figure out how to do
 it otherwise.

 Can anyone out there help me before you leave?


/snip/
Irv, one of the purposes of these lists is to help *everyone* who is 
reading them.
Your problem is very likely to be somebody else's also.  Could you share 
your

solution with the rest of us, please?

--doug


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[users] Re: Date ??

2011-09-04 Thread Irv [K3IRV] McWherter
Hello Doug:

The answer to the date problem can be solved in two ways.

My particular problem was in the spreadsheet program  The software has the
ability to accept different date formats other than those that appear in the
drop down menu.  The following can be applied to a single cell, or to a
group of highlighted cells.

1.  Click on cell, or highlighted group of cells.
2.  Click on Format.
3.  Click on date under Category.
4.  Go to bottom of window and there is window with a title Format Code.
Highlight over whatever is there and type in the format needed DD/MM/YY
and then hit OK at the bottom of the page and it worked.

Wheww!

Thanks for all the help and interest with my problem.

Irv.

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 **
 On 09/04/2011 12:02 PM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter wrote:

 I live in the Eastern USA.  Many thanks for the replies, but someone
 contacted me privately and showed me the way to correct the problem.

 Thanks for all your help.

 Irv.

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Irv [K3IRV] McWherter 
 irv4...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am using Default - English (USA)

 Irv.


  On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Johnny Rosenberg 
 gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/9/4 Irv [K3IRV] McWherter irv4...@gmail.com:
  Hi All:
 
  I have a date problem.  The OO ensemble does not seem to allow a date
 choice
  of DD/MM/YY.  I have some documents that I must submit in this format,
 but I
  cannot find it in the cell format selection, nor can I figure out how
 to do
  it otherwise.
 
  Can anyone out there help me before you leave?

/snip/
 Irv, one of the purposes of these lists is to help *everyone* who is
 reading them.
 Your problem is very likely to be somebody else's also.  Could you share
 your
 solution with the rest of us, please?

 --doug

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[users] Re: Date changes in openoffice

2011-04-02 Thread Guy Voets
2011/4/1 Open Office openoff...@renukaenergy.com:

 Dear All;
           Can anybody help me out in this issue..I m using Openoffice
 3.3..But whenever i dump some data in
 open office from software  which supports only xls format  the dates changes
 for example 01-04-2011 will be
 shown as 04/01/2015..So i have to to this manually..Can anyone give some
 solution it will be of great help
 to me..
 Regards;
 Niket Kalamkar

Hello Niket,

See Preferences  OOo Calc  Calculate (3rd option)  Date
There you find 3 options, the difference between the 3rd and the
1st/2nd option explains why your dates change when you import from
xls. It used to be a difference I stumbled upon when I imported xls
from Windows into xls in Mac.

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[users] Re: Date functions

2011-03-08 Thread JOE Conner

On 3/4/2011 6:00 PM, Michael wrote:

OO 3.0

I have a text document that I would like to have display a number that 
represents the number of days difference between two dates.  For example:
There are XX days until Kevin retires.  I would like the XX to 
represent a particular date in the future minus the current date in days.


I see how to insert the current date under the FIELDS option but I 
don't see any options for manipulating that date.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Michael

Spreadsheet cells will work wonderfully for this.
For instance:
A1 = today()
A2 = your birth date
A3 = A2-A1 will give you the number for how many days old you are.

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Re: [users] Re: Date Interpretation - Calc

2010-04-02 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 1 April 2010 17:16, Andreas Saeger saege...@onlinehome.de wrote:

 Harold Fuchs wrote:

 OOo 3.1.1 on Win XP Pro.

 I have a column of dates in a text (.txt) file and want to copy them into
 a
 column of a Calc sheet. I can't because Calc insists on changing the
 values.

 The first few lines of the .txt file look like this:
 Fri Apr 30
 Fri Apr 30
 Sat May 1
 Sat May 1


 ToolsOptions...LangSettingLanguages: Application locale English (US)
 Do the import of the US figures. Switch back to your prefered locale once
 you've got the right values.



Thanks, Andreas. That works.  I didn't realise that Fri Apr 30 is US
English and *not* British English. Looks perfectly OK to this Brit.



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[users] Re: Date Interpretation - Calc

2010-04-02 Thread Andreas Saeger

Harold Fuchs wrote:


Thanks, Andreas. That works.  I didn't realise that Fri Apr 30 is US
English and *not* British English. Looks perfectly OK to this Brit.





Well, as a German I think that the computer program interpretes these 
expressions as US dates simply because the month portion is followed by 
the day portion as in 12/31/1999.
When importing csv into Calc you can also specify most of the gory 
details within the text import wizard where you can select single 
columns or all columns (clicking the top-left corner) and assign some 
evaluation method.
Standard means: Just treat the text strings between as if I would 
type them into unformatted cells
Option Text turns everything into literal text values. Numeric 
evaluation is supressed for all numeric expressions (indicated by a 
leading apostroph in the formula bar which is not part of the text value).

Then there are 3 different flavours of date evaluation: DMY,MDY and YMD
Plus a setting for English(US) which is useful with comma locales like 
German where the comma is the decimal separator as in 3,1459


Unforturnately, all this is not properly documented.
The F1-help says:

Date (MDY)
Applies a date format (Month, Day, Year) to the imported data in a column.


Which is misleading because the applied number format (the one you see 
on the sheet) is simply the default one for any unformatted cell in a 
blank new sheet. This depends on the currently active applicationlocale.


It should read like:
Date (MDY)
Evaluates a column of dates as sequence of Month, Day and Year 
(12/31/1999, 12-31-99, Dec 12 99 and alikes)


Spreadsheet documentation is pointless since nobody reads it anyway.

Have a nice Easter weekend,
Andreas Säger


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[users] Re: Date Interpretation - Calc

2010-04-01 Thread Andreas Saeger

Harold Fuchs wrote:

OOo 3.1.1 on Win XP Pro.

I have a column of dates in a text (.txt) file and want to copy them into a
column of a Calc sheet. I can't because Calc insists on changing the values.

The first few lines of the .txt file look like this:
Fri Apr 30
Fri Apr 30
Sat May 1
Sat May 1


ToolsOptions...LangSettingLanguages: Application locale English (US)
Do the import of the US figures. Switch back to your prefered locale 
once you've got the right values.




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[users] Re: Date changes

2009-05-24 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2009 10:13 AM, H.S.Rai wrote:
 http://www.goldentemplephotos.com/datesheet_new.xls has row no 362, 363 when
 opened using OpenOffice 3.0.1 (on Ubuntu 9.04) build 9379 shown as:
 
 29/5/2009 EVENING 6TH CE-304 Geotechnical Engg. CIVL A0619  06/01/2009
 EVENING 6TH CE-306 Irrigation Engineering-I CIVL A0620
 
 While Google Doc as well MSExcell shows 01/06/2009 for row no. 363 (which is
 correct), that mean 1st of June is shown as 6th of Jan. Such error is there
 for many rows in same spreadsheet.
 
 Where is problem? With excel spreadsheet or with OpenOffice?
 

Look at the 'A' cell values:
360: 30/6/2009
361: '27/5/2009
362: '29/5/2009
363: 01/06/2009

In Excel:
360: Format is 'Date' '*3/14/1001'
361: Format is 'Custom' 'd-mmm'
362: Format is 'Custom' 'd-mmm'
363: Format is 'Date' '*3/14/1001'

The problem is in Excel. Fix your inconsistent cell formats in Excel.
OOo is interpreting the data correctly... GIGO.





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[users] Re: Date changes

2009-05-24 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2009 02:24 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/24/2009 10:13 AM, H.S.Rai wrote:
 http://www.goldentemplephotos.com/datesheet_new.xls has row no 362, 363 when
 opened using OpenOffice 3.0.1 (on Ubuntu 9.04) build 9379 shown as:
 
 29/5/2009 EVENING 6TH CE-304 Geotechnical Engg. CIVL A0619  06/01/2009
 EVENING 6TH CE-306 Irrigation Engineering-I CIVL A0620
 
 While Google Doc as well MSExcell shows 01/06/2009 for row no. 363 (which is
 correct), that mean 1st of June is shown as 6th of Jan. Such error is there
 for many rows in same spreadsheet.
 
 Where is problem? With excel spreadsheet or with OpenOffice?
 
 
 Look at the 'A' cell values:
 360: 30/6/2009
 361: '27/5/2009
 362: '29/5/2009
 363: 01/06/2009
 
 In Excel:
 360: Format is 'Date' '*3/14/1001'
 361: Format is 'Custom' 'd-mmm'
 362: Format is 'Custom' 'd-mmm'
 363: Format is 'Date' '*3/14/1001'
 
 The problem is in Excel. Fix your inconsistent cell formats in Excel.
 OOo is interpreting the data correctly... GIGO.

Sorry, forgot to mention; the easiest way to spot which cells have
screwed up formating is to simply select column's A  B and format the
cells enmass for 'Date 31. December 1999' or 'December 31, 1999'. You'll
then easily see which convert to that format  which one's do not.




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[users] Re: Date changes

2009-05-24 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2009 03:09 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

 
 One extra thing I didn't mention before: there is an easy way in Calc 
 to show the difference between the two sorts of data you have in 
 column A.  Go to View | Value Highlighting (or Ctrl+F8).  The text 
 entries - the majority of your values - will remain black, but the 
 values entered as dates - with which you are having the problem and 
 which are numbers - will turn blue.  This way you will more easily 
 see the problem and perhaps be able to decide on your best way forward.

Cool! Nice tip, thanks - I like that better than my method of
reformating to date w/text!



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Re: [users] Re: Date format: filing an issue, avoiding a dupe

2008-12-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/12/7 NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Of course the screenshot will not have made it through to the list.


Sorry, here is the screenshot:
http://dotancohen.com/images/ooo_calc_date.png

 Are you talking about when she enters and displays -mm-dd and after
 it displays correctly, and then clicking on the date and all of a sudden
 it automagically appears as mm-dd-? But after editing it reappears
 in the correct format in the cell? That's what mine does if I set the
 language to Hebrew with a US english locale.


The US date shows as mm/dd/ as opposed to mm-dd- but in essence, yes.

 It will be helpful if you can provide more details:

 1. What are the locale settings on her machine?

Ouf! She had it set to US_en. I was five nine certain that her locale
was en_DK. It seems that I was misconfiguring her locale, when I set
the locale in /etc/environment the setting was respected by OOo. So
either OOo disregards the user's locale and goes right for the system
locale, or I don't know what I'm doing (most likely the second!).

 2. What OS?

Kubuntu 8.04, sorry.

 3. What are the settings in: Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages

It was: Locale Setting: Hebrew
Now it is (and I will leave it this way): Danish

 4. What are the settings in Format|Cell|Date

-mm-dd
This is the problem! When editing a cell, I want the editing format to
be the same as the display format. Not the same as the locale format.

 5. What bugs you _think_ may be related.

Now that I have better identified the problem (what I answered in the
previous question) I see that none of the bugs that I have open 100%
address the issue. I will go through the Calc options very carefully
and google tonight. If I cannot find out how to set Calc to use the
display format as the edit format, then I will file a new issue.

Thanks, Greg, I always appreciate your help. Now that I see that I was
sloppy about the locale I am better armed to google my way out of
this. Have a great night.

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[users] Re: Date format: filing an issue, avoiding a dupe

2008-12-06 Thread NoOp
On 12/06/2008 05:49 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 I have a user suffering from the known issue of Calc presenting date
 formats in American format (mm/dd/) instead of the user-defined
 format (In my case -mm-dd) when editing cells. I am going through
 the OOo issue tracker and I am finding tens of date-related issues,
 but I cannot find this one particular issue. I would like to avoid
 filing a dupe so I ask here:
 1) Does anyone know of the exact issue number that relates to this issue?
 2) Are there any known workarounds / solutions? Is this a
 misconfiguration issue on our part?
 
 Please see attached screenshot that illustrates the -mm-dd format
 that the user has defined for her cells, yet when editing Calc forces
 me her use mm/dd/. The software is OOo 3.0 as downloaded from the
 official OOo website and no configuration settings changed. Thanks.

Of course the screenshot will not have made it through to the list.

Are you talking about when she enters and displays -mm-dd and after
it displays correctly, and then clicking on the date and all of a sudden
it automagically appears as mm-dd-? But after editing it reappears
in the correct format in the cell? That's what mine does if I set the
language to Hebrew with a US english locale.

It will be helpful if you can provide more details:

1. What are the locale settings on her machine?
2. What OS?
3. What are the settings in: Tools|Options|Language Settings|Languages
4. What are the settings in Format|Cell|Date
5. What bugs you _think_ may be related.


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[users] Re: Date formatting in writer

2008-04-08 Thread NoOp
On 04/07/2008 05:56 PM, Joe Hopkins wrote:
 How can I get Writer to automatiically insert the date into my
 documents with the desired format.  I want the date to be inserted as
 January 1, 2008 instead of 1/1/2008.  No matter what I try, the
 date format that is automatically inserted is the 1/1/2008 format.
 Can I change some option to accomplish this? Thanks... Joe
 
 

Yes. Insert|Fields|Other|Document|Date|Date (not Date (fixed))|Format

Then select December 31, 1999 and click the Insert button. That will
use your format and automatically update the date. If you want a fixed
date in that format, then select Date (fixed) instead.

From there on out, that _document_ will have that date format in _that_
field - even if you open on another system.

What I don't know how to do is to set that date format as the default.
It was discussed on the list sometime back, but I can't recall if anyone
ever figured it out.

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Re: [users] Re: Date formatting in writer

2008-04-08 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 09/04/2008 00:50, NoOp wrote:

On 04/07/2008 05:56 PM, Joe Hopkins wrote:
  

How can I get Writer to automatiically insert the date into my
documents with the desired format.  I want the date to be inserted as
January 1, 2008 instead of 1/1/2008.  No matter what I try, the
date format that is automatically inserted is the 1/1/2008 format.
Can I change some option to accomplish this? Thanks... Joe





Yes. Insert|Fields|Other|Document|Date|Date (not Date (fixed))|Format

Then select December 31, 1999 and click the Insert button. That will
use your format and automatically update the date. If you want a fixed
date in that format, then select Date (fixed) instead.

From there on out, that _document_ will have that date format in _that_
field - even if you open on another system.

What I don't know how to do is to set that date format as the default.
It was discussed on the list sometime back, but I can't recall if anyone
ever figured it out.

  
I think the default date format is taken from your Locale settings 
(attribute defined within the Operating System).
On Windows: Control PanelRegional and Language OptionsRegional 
OptionsShort Date.



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Re: [users] Re: Date formatting in writer

2008-04-08 Thread Michele Zarri
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 01:01 +0100, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 09/04/2008 00:50, NoOp wrote:
  On 04/07/2008 05:56 PM, Joe Hopkins wrote:

  How can I get Writer to automatiically insert the date into my
  documents with the desired format.  I want the date to be inserted as
  January 1, 2008 instead of 1/1/2008.  No matter what I try, the
  date format that is automatically inserted is the 1/1/2008 format.
  Can I change some option to accomplish this? Thanks... Joe

Hello Joe,

This is another of those historical issues opened in 2004:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=30216

which in fact is a child of this issue opened in 2002:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=6180

Issue 30216 has got 20 votes (not bad) but of course if you could add
your vote it has a better chance of getting in the top 100 (or whatever
number) issues and grab the developers' attention.

Cheers,

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[users] Re: Date formatting in writer

2008-04-08 Thread NoOp
On 04/08/2008 04:50 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 04/07/2008 05:56 PM, Joe Hopkins wrote:
 How can I get Writer to automatiically insert the date into my
 documents with the desired format.  I want the date to be inserted as
 January 1, 2008 instead of 1/1/2008.  No matter what I try, the
 date format that is automatically inserted is the 1/1/2008 format.
 Can I change some option to accomplish this? Thanks... Joe
 
 
 
 Yes. Insert|Fields|Other|Document|Date|Date (not Date (fixed))|Format
 
 Then select December 31, 1999 and click the Insert button. That will
 use your format and automatically update the date. If you want a fixed
 date in that format, then select Date (fixed) instead.
 
 From there on out, that _document_ will have that date format in _that_
 field - even if you open on another system.
 
 What I don't know how to do is to set that date format as the default.
 It was discussed on the list sometime back, but I can't recall if anyone
 ever figured it out.
 

Sorry - I missed Mike Scott's msgs before I replied. Also Michele Zarri
has pointed to the bug/Feature enhancements that have been around for
several years...

However, to take this a step further, you can use the Autotext feature
in OOo to do this:

Once you've inserted your date field with the format using
Insert|Fields|Other|Document|Date| (use Date(fixed) for this example),
select the field with the mouse and then:

Edit|Autotext

That will open a window for the Autotext dialog  should open to My
AutoText.

- Give it a Name: Today's Date
- Give it a shortcut: today
- Click AutoText and New
- Click Close

That will save that autotext format to your autotext path/folder, and it
will be available for as long as you have that profile on your computer.
So that you don't have to replicate on multiple computers, you can copy
the mytexts.bau file in your profile to the other computers as well.

Now, let's test it out:

- in the doc type: today - and then press F3

You'll see that today's date with the correct format is inserted as a field.

Now let's test it in a new doc:

- Close the existing document, and if you wish, OOo. Open OOo and open
up a new, or any existing document you have handy.

- in the doc type: today - and then press F3

The date gets inserted in the format you wish.

You can adjust according to what you are comfortable with and also
create one for Date (fixed) and Date auto. You can also shorten the
shortcut to 't' for today's date, and 'd' for auto date etc. Whatever
you think your students will be comfortable with.

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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-06 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2007 03:57 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/03/2007 12:25 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Oops! Didn't notice this message first.
 
 Here's the info from /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc:
 
 
 I don't know what else to suggest other than perhaps add to the bug that
 Kirill mentioned:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76623

Sudheer/Kirill et al, did you guys ever figure out a fix for this? This
seems to be a rather serious bug.


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Re: [users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana

Hello NoOp,

On the formula bar I see:
A2 - A11: 10/01/2007
A12 - A14: 10/02/2007
A15 : 10/03/2007

On the cell I see:
A2 - A11:  Sep 30, 07
A12 - A14: Oct 1, 07
A15: Oct 2, 07

When I place the cursor on the A2 and press F2 and then the Esc key, it 
shows Oct 1, 07. When I switch to another window and then back to OO 
Calc, Sep 30, 07 displays on cells A2 - A11.


The dates displayed on formula bar is correct but not on the cells.
NoOp wrote:

On 10/02/2007 10:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
  

On 10/02/2007 09:14 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:


Hello NoOp,

Thanks for the reply. I searched the archives but didn't find any 
information to fix it. I have no clue how to troubleshoot this problem. 
Can anybody suggest wow I would further investigate this problem? How 
would I know if it is a local problem?


The same is happening on my colleague's computer who is using Ubuntu 7.04.

I'm attaching the document with personal data removed. Can somebody try 
replicate the problem please?


Any help would be appreciated,
  

A2 - A11 I see Oct 1, 07
A12 - A14 I see Oct 2, 07
A15 I see Oct 3, 07

I see the same in the formula bar for each. Is that what you get?



Correction: in the formula bar I see:

A2 - A11 I see 10/01/07
A12 - A14 I see 10/02/07
A15 I see 10/03/07



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Re: [users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread Guy Voets
Hello

On 2.3/NL_nl on my iMac, all the dates in your sample file are shown correctly.
In this case (contrary to another case on the list today) I cannot
confirm the problems you report.

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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2007 06:20 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Any hints to solve this problem? I'm ok with another 
 locale/build/version.  Please suggest possible workarounds. I would 
 appreciate any information to temporarily or permanently resolve this issue.
 
 
 
 Guy Voets wrote:
 Hello

 On 2.3/NL_nl on my iMac, all the dates in your sample file are shown 
 correctly.
 In this case (contrary to another case on the list today) I cannot
 confirm the problems you report.

   
 
 

Can you try the OOo build directly from OOo
(http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/index.html)  see if that makes a
difference? Or is that the one that you are using now?

Another thing that you might try is to rename your ./openoffice.org2
directory and let OOo rebuild a new one to see if perhaps it is
something in your OOo profile.




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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2007 09:18 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/03/2007 06:20 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Any hints to solve this problem? I'm ok with another 
 locale/build/version.  Please suggest possible workarounds. I would 
 appreciate any information to temporarily or permanently resolve this issue.
 
 
 
 Guy Voets wrote:
 Hello

 On 2.3/NL_nl on my iMac, all the dates in your sample file are shown 
 correctly.
 In this case (contrary to another case on the list today) I cannot
 confirm the problems you report.

   
 
 
 
 Can you try the OOo build directly from OOo
 (http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/index.html)  see if that makes a
 difference? Or is that the one that you are using now?
 
 Another thing that you might try is to rename your ./openoffice.org2
 directory and let OOo rebuild a new one to see if perhaps it is
 something in your OOo profile.

Sorry, clicked send to quickly... can you also provide the version 
build of your OOo? You can find this two ways:

1.
Versions and Build Numbers
1.Choose Help - About OpenOffice.org. This opens a dialog containing
document information.
2.To obtain further information, hold down Ctrl and press the letters S
D T in succession. At the beginning you will find information about the
version and build number. This is followed by a list of contributors. To
stop the information before the end, press Esc.

2.
In your directory where OOo is installed (for instance mine is in /opt)
open: /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc in a text editor. That
will show you the info. Mine is:

[Version]
buildid=680m5(Build:9221)
ProductPatch=
ProductSource=OOG680
ProductMajor=680
ProductMinor=5
ProductBuildid=9221
AllLanguages=en-US
UpdateURL=http://update23.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_2_en-US
UpdateUserAgent=OpenOffice.org 2.3 (680m5(Build:9221); $_OS; $_ARCH;
BundledLanguages=en-US)
OOOBaseVersion=2.3
ExtensionUpdateURL=http://updateext.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

and in my Ubuntu'ized OOo 2.3 version (installed in
/usr/lib/openoffice/program on another machine):

[Version]
buildid=680m5(Build:9221)
ProductPatch=
ProductSource=OOG680
ProductMajor=680
ProductMinor=5
ProductBuildid=9221
AllLanguages=en-US
UpdateURL=
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_2_en-US
UpdateUserAgent=OpenOffice.org 2.3 (680m5(Build:9221); $_OS; $_ARCH;
BundledLanguages=en-US)
OOOBaseVersion=2.3
ExtensionUpdateURL=http://updateext.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
Vendor=Debian and Ubuntu
BuildVersion=openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu2, Fri Sep 28 13:40:23
GMT 2007


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Re: [users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana

Hello NoOp,

Thanks, but I have already tried them.

I was using OO that came with FC6. In an attempt to fix the issue, I 
uninstalled it and am now using the build from openoffice.org. I have 
also tried removing the ./openoffice.org2 directory. None of them helped.


Could you suggest any other troubleshooting steps?

NoOp wrote:

On 10/03/2007 06:20 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
  

Hello,

Any hints to solve this problem? I'm ok with another 
locale/build/version.  Please suggest possible workarounds. I would 
appreciate any information to temporarily or permanently resolve this issue.




Guy Voets wrote:


Hello

On 2.3/NL_nl on my iMac, all the dates in your sample file are shown correctly.
In this case (contrary to another case on the list today) I cannot
confirm the problems you report.

  
  



Can you try the OOo build directly from OOo
(http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/index.html)  see if that makes a
difference? Or is that the one that you are using now?

Another thing that you might try is to rename your ./openoffice.org2
directory and let OOo rebuild a new one to see if perhaps it is
something in your OOo profile.




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Re: [users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana


Oops! Didn't notice this message first.

Here's the info from /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc:

Display all 305 possibilities? (y or n)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc
[Version]
buildid=680m5(Build:9221)
ProductPatch=
ProductSource=OOG680
ProductMajor=680
ProductMinor=5
ProductBuildid=9221
AllLanguages=en-US
UpdateURL=http://update23.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_2_en-US
UpdateUserAgent=OpenOffice.org 2.3 (680m5(Build:9221); $_OS; $_ARCH; 
BundledLanguages=en-US)

OOOBaseVersion=2.3
ExtensionUpdateURL=http://updateext.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

Pressing Esc key doesn't stop the Credits info from the About 
OpenOffice.org dialog box.


NoOp wrote:

On 10/03/2007 09:18 AM, NoOp wrote:
  

On 10/03/2007 06:20 AM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:


Hello,

Any hints to solve this problem? I'm ok with another 
locale/build/version.  Please suggest possible workarounds. I would 
appreciate any information to temporarily or permanently resolve this issue.




Guy Voets wrote:
  

Hello

On 2.3/NL_nl on my iMac, all the dates in your sample file are shown correctly.
In this case (contrary to another case on the list today) I cannot
confirm the problems you report.

  

  

Can you try the OOo build directly from OOo
(http://download.openoffice.org/2.3.0/index.html)  see if that makes a
difference? Or is that the one that you are using now?

Another thing that you might try is to rename your ./openoffice.org2
directory and let OOo rebuild a new one to see if perhaps it is
something in your OOo profile.



Sorry, clicked send to quickly... can you also provide the version 
build of your OOo? You can find this two ways:

1.
Versions and Build Numbers
1.Choose Help - About OpenOffice.org. This opens a dialog containing
document information.
2.To obtain further information, hold down Ctrl and press the letters S
D T in succession. At the beginning you will find information about the
version and build number. This is followed by a list of contributors. To
stop the information before the end, press Esc.

2.
In your directory where OOo is installed (for instance mine is in /opt)
open: /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc in a text editor. That
will show you the info. Mine is:

[Version]
buildid=680m5(Build:9221)
ProductPatch=
ProductSource=OOG680
ProductMajor=680
ProductMinor=5
ProductBuildid=9221
AllLanguages=en-US
UpdateURL=http://update23.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_2_en-US
UpdateUserAgent=OpenOffice.org 2.3 (680m5(Build:9221); $_OS; $_ARCH;
BundledLanguages=en-US)
OOOBaseVersion=2.3
ExtensionUpdateURL=http://updateext.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

and in my Ubuntu'ized OOo 2.3 version (installed in
/usr/lib/openoffice/program on another machine):

[Version]
buildid=680m5(Build:9221)
ProductPatch=
ProductSource=OOG680
ProductMajor=680
ProductMinor=5
ProductBuildid=9221
AllLanguages=en-US
UpdateURL=
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_2_en-US
UpdateUserAgent=OpenOffice.org 2.3 (680m5(Build:9221); $_OS; $_ARCH;
BundledLanguages=en-US)
OOOBaseVersion=2.3
ExtensionUpdateURL=http://updateext.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
Vendor=Debian and Ubuntu
BuildVersion=openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu2, Fri Sep 28 13:40:23
GMT 2007


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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-03 Thread NoOp
On 10/03/2007 12:25 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Oops! Didn't notice this message first.
 
 Here's the info from /opt/openoffice.org2.3/program/versionrc:
 

I don't know what else to suggest other than perhaps add to the bug that
Kirill mentioned:

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76623

Don't know if this matters or not, but my locales are:
$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Clocks are 12 hour _not_ set to UTC. And in OOo:

Tools|Options|OpenOffice.org(OOo) Calc|Calculate
Date: 12/30/1899 (default) is checked
Search criteria... is checked
Decimal Places: 2

Tools|Options|OOo|General
Year: interpret... 1930

Tools|Cell Contents
AutoCalculate and AutoInput are checked

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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-02 Thread NoOp
On 10/02/2007 07:08 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Hello,
 
 No comments?
 
 On some of the cells, the date displayed is Sep 30, 07. When I place the 
 cursor on the cell with date Sep 30, 07, the date displayed on the 
 formula bar is 10/01/07. The date displayed on the formula bar is 
 correct. Also, when I place the cursor on the cell and press F2 and then 
 Esc key, the date is correctly displayed both on the cell and as well as 
 the formula bar. When I switch to another window and come back to the OO 
 Calc window, again the display is mangled.
 
 Has anybody else experienced similar problems? If yes, how have you 
 fixed them?
 

Last month Clive Bowley experienced the exact same problem using a
windows version (search the archives for Date format + Clive Bowley.
He sent me his spreadsheet of list and I was not able to reproduce in:

OOo 2.3 (linux): cannot reproduce
OOo 2.1 (linux): cannot reproduce
StarOffice 8 (linux): cannot reproduce
OOo 2.1 (Windows): cannot reproduce
StarOffice 8 (Windows): cannot reproduce
MS Excel 2002 SP3 (windows): cannot reproduce

I also was not able to reproduce your problem using a single cell w/your
date data.

Perhaps it's a locale problem? I am in the US and use US locale's in OOo
etc. Clive is in the UK so perhaps this is a related regional bug.
Perhaps someone from your (and Clive's region) could check?

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Re: [users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-02 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana

Hello NoOp,

Thanks for the reply. I searched the archives but didn't find any 
information to fix it. I have no clue how to troubleshoot this problem. 
Can anybody suggest wow I would further investigate this problem? How 
would I know if it is a local problem?


The same is happening on my colleague's computer who is using Ubuntu 7.04.

I'm attaching the document with personal data removed. Can somebody try 
replicate the problem please?


Any help would be appreciated,



NoOp wrote:

On 10/02/2007 07:08 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
  

Hello,

No comments?

On some of the cells, the date displayed is Sep 30, 07. When I place the 
cursor on the cell with date Sep 30, 07, the date displayed on the 
formula bar is 10/01/07. The date displayed on the formula bar is 
correct. Also, when I place the cursor on the cell and press F2 and then 
Esc key, the date is correctly displayed both on the cell and as well as 
the formula bar. When I switch to another window and come back to the OO 
Calc window, again the display is mangled.


Has anybody else experienced similar problems? If yes, how have you 
fixed them?





Last month Clive Bowley experienced the exact same problem using a
windows version (search the archives for Date format + Clive Bowley.
He sent me his spreadsheet of list and I was not able to reproduce in:

OOo 2.3 (linux): cannot reproduce
OOo 2.1 (linux): cannot reproduce
StarOffice 8 (linux): cannot reproduce
OOo 2.1 (Windows): cannot reproduce
StarOffice 8 (Windows): cannot reproduce
MS Excel 2002 SP3 (windows): cannot reproduce

I also was not able to reproduce your problem using a single cell w/your
date data.

Perhaps it's a locale problem? I am in the US and use US locale's in OOo
etc. Clive is in the UK so perhaps this is a related regional bug.
Perhaps someone from your (and Clive's region) could check?

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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-02 Thread NoOp
On 10/02/2007 09:14 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Hello NoOp,
 
 Thanks for the reply. I searched the archives but didn't find any 
 information to fix it. I have no clue how to troubleshoot this problem. 
 Can anybody suggest wow I would further investigate this problem? How 
 would I know if it is a local problem?
 
 The same is happening on my colleague's computer who is using Ubuntu 7.04.
 
 I'm attaching the document with personal data removed. Can somebody try 
 replicate the problem please?
 
 Any help would be appreciated,

A2 - A11 I see Oct 1, 07
A12 - A14 I see Oct 2, 07
A15 I see Oct 3, 07

I see the same in the formula bar for each. Is that what you get?

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[users] Re: Date Display Problem

2007-10-02 Thread NoOp
On 10/02/2007 10:20 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 10/02/2007 09:14 PM, Sudheer Satyanarayana wrote:
 Hello NoOp,
 
 Thanks for the reply. I searched the archives but didn't find any 
 information to fix it. I have no clue how to troubleshoot this problem. 
 Can anybody suggest wow I would further investigate this problem? How 
 would I know if it is a local problem?
 
 The same is happening on my colleague's computer who is using Ubuntu 7.04.
 
 I'm attaching the document with personal data removed. Can somebody try 
 replicate the problem please?
 
 Any help would be appreciated,
 
 A2 - A11 I see Oct 1, 07
 A12 - A14 I see Oct 2, 07
 A15 I see Oct 3, 07
 
 I see the same in the formula bar for each. Is that what you get?

Correction: in the formula bar I see:

A2 - A11 I see 10/01/07
A12 - A14 I see 10/02/07
A15 I see 10/03/07



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[users] Re: date math

2007-09-24 Thread Bob Long
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 ok so here is what I've got, I have to fields move in and move out both in 
 date format and a third field length which I would like to show # yrs # mo 
 # days automatically. when I tried to make the third field a date to show 
 the difference it gives me a nonsense date I realize now that is because 
 it is taking the integer value that is returned when subtracting dates and 
 using it as it's internal representation. so I guess I have to use a 
 number field but I just don't know what to do please help

I think I understand you to be saying you want the different between two 
dates to be expressed in the form of number of years, months and days. Have 
a look at the DAYS, MONTHS, YEARS functions. You'll probably have to use a 
formula to format a string in the format you want. I don't know how you'll 
handle the leap year issue.

-- 
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[users] Re: [Date Format Default Question] Re: Date format

2007-09-07 Thread NoOp
On 09/07/2007 01:59 AM, LoLo wrote:
 I did start this as a new thread.  Brian Russel answered my original question 
 and i responded directly to his answer to which Clive Bowley responded.
 
 It would therefore be appreciated if you got your facts correct and stop 
 mixing emails up to suit some agenda that you have to tell people off.
 
 LoLo

Perhaps you missed:

 Interesting... I show Clive's first in the thread
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 then Lolo's
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 I think I may have figured out the problem; Clive's msg has a date of
 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:11:08 +0100 and somehow I picked it up as
 current via the gmane newsreader.
 
 My mistake  aplogies to Lolo  all.
 
 Gary

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[users] Re: Date format

2007-09-06 Thread Clive Bowley

It was using the tab /mouse, not transferring any data
regards
Clive

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On 07/05/2007 03:11 AM, Clive Bowley wrote:

I'm new to Open Office, and I've opened up an excel file (no macros)
one column of which is date formatted to DD/MM/, my problem is
that I've inserted a date 26/05/2005 but when I move to the next
column or row this date alters to 1 day less ?, ie 25/05/2005  albeit
the data input field at the top of the screen still shows the correct
details, and I can't find how to correct this.

Clive


I'm unsure of what you mean by move to the next column or row. Are you
referring to selecting the next column or row (using mouse, tab, arrow
key), or moving the data in the cell to another column or row?

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[users] Re: Date format

2007-09-06 Thread NoOp
On 09/06/2007 01:25 PM, Clive Bowley wrote:

 
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 From: NoOp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Newsgroups: gmane.comp.openoffice.questions
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 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Date format
 
 
 On 07/05/2007 03:11 AM, Clive Bowley wrote:
 I'm new to Open Office, and I've opened up an excel file (no macros)
 one column of which is date formatted to DD/MM/, my problem is
 that I've inserted a date 26/05/2005 but when I move to the next
 column or row this date alters to 1 day less ?, ie 25/05/2005  albeit
 the data input field at the top of the screen still shows the correct
 details, and I can't find how to correct this.
 
 Clive
 
 I'm unsure of what you mean by move to the next column or row. Are you
 referring to selecting the next column or row (using mouse, tab, arrow
 key), or moving the data in the cell to another column or row?
 
 Please reply only to users@openoffice.org
 

 It was using the tab /mouse, not transferring any data
 regards
 Clive

That's rather odd  I cannot seem to replicate it. Is it possible that
you'd be willing to chop out any sensitive stuff on the worksheet and
post here or send to me directly? (glgxg at sbcglobal.net).

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[users] Re: [Date Format Default Question] Re: Date format

2007-09-06 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 9/6/07 7:19 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 09/06/2007 03:53 AM, LoLo wrote:
  

Hi

Can someone please tell me how to change the date format default in Writer.  It 
currently inserts the date as 06/09/07 and i want it to insert the date as 06 
September 2007 as default.

Thanks for any help

LoLo



In the future it would be appreciated if you started a *new* thread
regarding your problem. Yes, I realize that your post has to do with
date format as well, but as you can see, your question has detracted
from the original question asked by the unsubscribed OP:
  


I do not understand what you are talking about. LoLo's post is the first 
one that I see in this thread. When I checked the headers I do not see 
any In Reply To designated. Please explain.


  

I'm new to Open Office, and I've opened up an excel file (no macros)
one column of which is date formatted to DD/MM/, my problem is
that I've inserted a date 26/05/2005 but when I move to the next
column or row this date alters to 1 day less ?, ie 25/05/2005  albeit
the data input field at the top of the screen still shows the correct
details, and I can't find how to correct this.

Clive



If nothing else, please at least retag the subject (similar the changed
subject in this msg) so that others can distinquish between *your* new
added question vs the *OP's* original question.

Gary

BTW: I am a LoLo as well... :-)
  


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[users] Re: Date format

2007-09-06 Thread Russell Butler

LoLo wrote:

Thanks Brian, i didn't know about the double click thing so that's a help.

Would still like to change the default though if anyone knows how.

LoLo

Hi,
Is this in a document format you will be using regularly? If so you can 
save the formatted date in a template and whenever you use that template 
for a new document the date will be in the desired format.


For instance I have a letterhead template and the date is inserted 
above the addressee data. You can make it a fixed date, so it will be 
the date the new document is created, or it can be updated whenever the 
file is opened.


However the date format is preserved in the template _only_ if it is 
actually used. So you can't set it up in a blank document and save that 
as your default, unfortunately. I think if you look in issuezilla you 
will see an RFE (request for enhancement) for this, but it is not seen 
as a high enough priority to attract the developers' attention.


HTH

Russell

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[users] Re: [Date Format Default Question] Re: Date format

2007-09-06 Thread NoOp
On 09/06/2007 08:41 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
 On 9/6/07 7:19 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 09/06/2007 03:53 AM, LoLo wrote:
   
 Hi

 Can someone please tell me how to change the date format default in Writer. 
  It currently inserts the date as 06/09/07 and i want it to insert the date 
 as 06 September 2007 as default.

 Thanks for any help

 LoLo
 

 In the future it would be appreciated if you started a *new* thread
 regarding your problem. Yes, I realize that your post has to do with
 date format as well, but as you can see, your question has detracted
 from the original question asked by the unsubscribed OP:
   
 
 I do not understand what you are talking about. LoLo's post is the first 
 one that I see in this thread. When I checked the headers I do not see 
 any In Reply To designated. Please explain.

Interesting... I show Clive's first in the thread
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then Lolo's
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think I may have figured out the problem; Clive's msg has a date of
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:11:08 +0100 and somehow I picked it up as
current via the gmane newsreader.

My mistake  aplogies to Lolo  all.

Gary

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[users] Re: Date Arithmetic in Calc ??

2006-08-11 Thread Andreas Saeger

William Case wrote:

Hi;

Just double checking that I have things in some date formulae written
correctly.

OOo starts dating at 30/12/1899 shows as Dec 29, 1899 when MMM DD, 
formatting is applied.  It appears to lose a day.  The 30/12/1899 date
none-the-less is the date that is used for internal date arithmetic, is
it not?


Put a zero into the formatted cell. It shows 1988-12-30.
Check the value (Format 0.0)
Your function may need =ROUND(your formula;0)


In Help the WEEKS() Function is defined as follows:

WEEKS(Start date, End date, Type)
Calculates the difference in weeks between two dates.
Start date: First date
End date: Second date
Type: Calculates the type of difference. The possible values are 0
(interval) and 1 (in numbers of weeks).
 
If the Start date is set to 30/12/1899 and End date is today, WEEKS()

returns 5562 weeks for Type value 0 and 5563 for Type value 1.

Help is not clear, on the difference between interval type (0) and 'in
number of weeks' type (1).

I have never used that function. I use =(end-start)/7 with round(), 
roundup() or rounddown().

  What I really want to do is count the number
of Mondays since the 30/12/1899 start date.  I think this means I want
to use Type 2 but I would like to have this assumption confirmed, if
someone could take the time to help.


Not exactly, but I could copy and paste.
First day of week for some month:
=DATE(myYear;MyMonth;1)+MOD(myDoW-WEEKDAY(DATE(myYear;MyMonth;1));7)
where myYear and myMonth specify the month in question and myDoW is a 
day-of-week-number as returned by WEEKDAY(Date). Sun=1,...Sat=7.


Same with last day of week for some month:
=DATE(myYear;MyMonth+1;0)-MOD(WEEKDAY(DATE(myYear;MyMonth+1;0))-myDoW;7)
Test with some named style having a date-format like -MM-DD NN 
(2006-06-02 Fr)


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Re: [users] Re: Date Arithmetic in Calc ??

2006-08-11 Thread William Case
On Fri, 2006-11-08 at 23:07 +0200, Andreas Saeger wrote:
 William Case wrote:
  Hi;

 Not exactly, but I could copy and paste.
 First day of week for some month:
 =DATE(myYear;MyMonth;1)+MOD(myDoW-WEEKDAY(DATE(myYear;MyMonth;1));7)
 where myYear and myMonth specify the month in question and myDoW is a 
 day-of-week-number as returned by WEEKDAY(Date). Sun=1,...Sat=7.
 
 Same with last day of week for some month:
 =DATE(myYear;MyMonth+1;0)-MOD(WEEKDAY(DATE(myYear;MyMonth+1;0))-myDoW;7)
 Test with some named style having a date-format like -MM-DD NN 
 (2006-06-02 Fr)
 
 -
The 0 (0.00) date value still gives me '30/12/1899'.  So there is no
problem there, but thanks for the tip of using zero as a start date
rather than 30/12/1899.  Cleans things up.

I appreciate your sharing your formulae, but WEEKS() seems neater and
cleaner and has the advantage of being built in, if only I could be
certain that the Type in WEEKS(Start Date; End Date; Type) meant what I
think it means.

I am going to apply your formulae -- after dinner -- and see if I end up
at the same place.

Thanks again. 
-- 
Regards Bill

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[users] Re: Date field on a spreadsheet

2006-02-14 Thread Jallan

Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:
I have gone through the help files but have found no way to insert 
today's date in a cell.  When I print out the list, I want the date the 
list was printed in a cell at the top of the sheet.  I can put a date 
field on a document, but not on a spreadsheet.  How do I do that?


Use the today() function for the current date. Use the now() function 
for the current date and time.


Both functions are automatically updated when a file is opened and when 
any change is made in a file, such as adding a space and then deleting it.


Jallan


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[users] Re: Date field on a spreadsheet

2006-02-14 Thread Dennis Marks
=now() gives date and time
=today() gives date only

Anthony Chilco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
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 enter =now() in the cell and format the cell for date the way you want to 
 see it.
 tc

 Dennis J. Tuchler wrote:

 I have gone through the help files but have found no way to insert 
 today's date in a cell.  When I print out the list, I want the date the 
 list was printed in a cell at the top of the sheet.  I can put a date 
 field on a document, but not on a spreadsheet.  How do I do that?
 



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[users] Re: Date and calculations inoperative

2006-02-09 Thread Terry North
tony smailes tee.smailes at virgin.net writes:
 
 Have recently (last 24 hours) discovered openoffice. Last night (GMT) I
downloaded your programme but all calculations including dates are inoperative
on trial spreadsheet. What have I done incorrectly? Help please. Tony Smailes.

You may need to be more specific.  In the meantime, check the following setting:
Tools  Cell Contents  AutoCalculate.  It should be ticked.  If it isn't,
select it, it will be and your calculations will take effect.

If that isn't it, you'll have to give examples of formulas and date entries made
and the results.


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[users] Re: Date Formatting in OOo 2.0

2005-12-23 Thread Bob

On 21/12/2005 18:58, Terry North wrote:

Bob baasha at shaw.ca writes:

I have a column set up in Calc to format dates as MM/DD/YY.  This 
normally works fine.  A couple of days ago I tried to enter two dates, 
09/12/05 (Sep. 12th) and 10/12/05 (Oct. 12th).  The program seems to 
assume that because I am entering this information in December, then I 
must mean Dec. 9th and Dec. 10th, which is not the case.  I can not seem 
to find a way to override this behaviour.  Am I doing something wrong, 
or is this a bug?




I take it the dates are displaying as 12/09/05 and 12/10/05 even though you
input 09/12/05 and 10/12/05.  That is strange because the format DD/MM/YY
would still show your input as entered.  If your cell formats are still
correct, perhaps you need to check language settings - Tools /Options
/Language Settings /Languages.

You haven't used any other formatting?

If you do not format the cells, the format you use seems to be the default
format.  Perhaps you should put the matter beyond any doubt by selecting
English (USA) as the language when formatting the cells.



Thanks Terry,

That was it; a conflict between my locale setting and my date 
formatting.  I worked for an American corporation for many years, so I 
got used to formatting dates in the American way.  But I had my 
spreadsheet set up for Canadian English, so it is no wonder the program 
was confused.  G.I.G.O. is just as true as it always has been.  :-))


Bob


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[users] Re: Date Formatting in OOo 2.0

2005-12-21 Thread Terry North
Bob baasha at shaw.ca writes:
 
 I have a column set up in Calc to format dates as MM/DD/YY.  This 
 normally works fine.  A couple of days ago I tried to enter two dates, 
 09/12/05 (Sep. 12th) and 10/12/05 (Oct. 12th).  The program seems to 
 assume that because I am entering this information in December, then I 
 must mean Dec. 9th and Dec. 10th, which is not the case.  I can not seem 
 to find a way to override this behaviour.  Am I doing something wrong, 
 or is this a bug?
 
I take it the dates are displaying as 12/09/05 and 12/10/05 even though you
input 09/12/05 and 10/12/05.  That is strange because the format DD/MM/YY
would still show your input as entered.  If your cell formats are still
correct, perhaps you need to check language settings - Tools /Options
/Language Settings /Languages.

You haven't used any other formatting?

If you do not format the cells, the format you use seems to be the default
format.  Perhaps you should put the matter beyond any doubt by selecting
English (USA) as the language when formatting the cells.



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[users] Re: Date format as default

2005-11-08 Thread Terry North
Margaret Stanley stanley at wr14.freeserve.co.uk writes:

 
 Every time I enter a date in Writer  I need to explicitly set the 
 format to , for example 31 Oct 05 instead of 10/31/05. Is there any 
 way of setting this as a default date format?
 
 Margaret Stanley
 
I've only managed to get part of the way: Tools /Options /Language Settings
/Languages /Locale Setting: Your Choice, Default Languages ... Western: Your
Choice.  Since I've chosen Australian English, using the simple date field gives
me 09/11/05 (instead of the US format 11/09/05) for 9 November 2005.  The only
way I can find to get a different format is to use the field other.  I too am
interested to discover whether there is some way to alter the default format.




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Re: [users] Re: Date format Date vs. Date Fixed

2005-06-29 Thread Ed Zollars, CPA

Jonathan Kaye wrote:


If you use Date Fixed, then the date doesn't change (maybe it's hard
text rather than a code) so if you enter Date fixed and print today you
get 28 June 2005. You print tomorrow and you still get 28 June 2005.
 

Actually, it is still a field code, but the date is not updated when the 
file is reopened or saved.   However, being a field, if it is in a 
template then the date is updated if you use File-New to start a new 
document from the template, as well as being an all or nothing 
deletion or editing item--that is, it's not straight text you could edit 
(you need to delete the code and then reenter to make a change).


--
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[users] Re: Date format

2005-06-28 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:20:55 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:

 Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
 Robin Laing wrote:
 
 Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:

 Graham Window wrote:

 Hi,

 Is there a way to change the Date Format fom Americam style to
 European style (eg. today is July 25th - short date 6/25/05 in
 America and 25/6/05 in Europe)?




 Select the cell, right click  Format  Date  Choose style

 Also, can I ask you to briefly explain Date and Date Fixed? What
 is the difference?




 Where do you see this term?


 How do you make it the default format so you don't have to go through
 and change the format every time?

 Probably change the default locale.
 
 Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages
 
 
 I just looked, there is no setting for the date format.  Only the
 language.
 
 Here is the problem.  I use English (Canada) but I need to use ISO date
 format.  How do I set the ISO date format as default?
 
 I checked in 1.9.104.
 
 I guess this is a bug in my opinion.

Try http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 as one. It was
part of the search I sent the other day. I gather it did not work for
you. In that case, do an issue search as follows:

1. Select all but patch in the issue type field
2. Select all but verified in the status field
3. Enter date format in to the summary field
4. Enter date format in to the A description entry: field
5. Click submit

This will give a list of existing issues. 

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Re: [users] Re: Date format

2005-06-28 Thread Robin Laing

G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:20:55 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:



Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:


Robin Laing wrote:



Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:



Graham Window wrote:



Hi,

Is there a way to change the Date Format fom Americam style to
European style (eg. today is July 25th - short date 6/25/05 in
America and 25/6/05 in Europe)?





Select the cell, right click  Format  Date  Choose style



Also, can I ask you to briefly explain Date and Date Fixed? What
is the difference?





Where do you see this term?




How do you make it the default format so you don't have to go through
and change the format every time?



Probably change the default locale.

Tools  Options  Language Settings  Languages




I just looked, there is no setting for the date format.  Only the
language.

Here is the problem.  I use English (Canada) but I need to use ISO date
format.  How do I set the ISO date format as default?

I checked in 1.9.104.

I guess this is a bug in my opinion.



Try http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3093 as one. It was
part of the search I sent the other day. I gather it did not work for
you. In that case, do an issue search as follows:

1. Select all but patch in the issue type field
2. Select all but verified in the status field
3. Enter date format in to the summary field
4. Enter date format in to the A description entry: field
5. Click submit

This will give a list of existing issues. 



But this is not the default format.  ie I open a document and enter 
the date field and print.  The date format is not ISO.  I open a Calc 
sheet and enter a date, I have to reformat the cells to get the date 
format.  How to set all OOo to default to ISO dates is the question, 
not how to get ISO dates in documents.  I have been doing it one way 
or another for years (except in footers in Calc).


I put comments on the bug link already.

I guess I will submit a bug.
--
Robin Laing


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[users] Re: Date format Date vs. Date Fixed

2005-06-28 Thread Jonathan Kaye
En/La Graham Window ha escrit, a 25/06/05 07:23:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to change the Date Format fom Americam style to European 
 style (eg. today is July 25th - short date 6/25/05 in America and 25/6/05 in 
 Europe)?
 
 Also, can I ask you to briefly explain Date and Date Fixed? What is the 
 difference?
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Graham 
I don't think any of the other posting got to your question of Date vs.
Date Fixed. My understanding (I could be wrong here) is that Date
inserts a date code that varies according to when you open the file.
Suppose you insert a date field today and print the file, you get 28
June 2005 (or whatever date format you use). If you open  and print the
file tomorrow you'll get 29 June 2005, etc.

If you use Date Fixed, then the date doesn't change (maybe it's hard
text rather than a code) so if you enter Date fixed and print today you
get 28 June 2005. You print tomorrow and you still get 28 June 2005.

Hope this is clear.
Jonathan

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Thank you.


[users] Re: Date format

2005-06-25 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:25:42 -0400, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

 On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 12:03 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
 G. Roderick Singleton wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 11:36 -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo wrote:
  
 Graham Window wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to change the Date Format fom Americam style to
 European style (eg. today is July 25th - short date 6/25/05 in
 America and 25/6/05 in Europe)?
 
 Select the cell, right click  Format  Date  Choose style
 
 
 Also, can I ask you to briefly explain Date and Date Fixed? What
 is the difference?
 
 Where do you see this term?
  
  
  
  Insert  Field  Other  Document  Date and you get to choose Date
  (fixed) or Date. This is describe in Help  Contents  Index  Search
  term  date fields. This also explains the difference between fixed
  and dynamic.
 
 How can I make it so that if I search help for fixed date I get that
 result?
 
 
 Short of rewriting Help, I do not know.
 
 Can I file an issue about that or is there nothing I can do?
 
 
 You might be able to get it added if you file an issue on 2.0.

I hate doing followups to my own messages but I forgot to mention that
you file against documentation and on-line help. 


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[users] Re: Date default in Writer

2005-05-08 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Sun, 08 May 2005 16:25:00 +0200, Richard Judge wrote:

 I always use a long date format in my documents and while this is easy 
 to change, from the default 05/08/05 to Sunday, May 8, 2005 I would 
 like the default insertion of the date to be in the long format.
 
 Please advise me how this is done, despite some effort I have not been 
 able to do this.
 
 Richard


You might like to have a look at
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=3093

As to why ISO date format is not the default is probably worth an 
RFE.

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