Re: [Users] Fwd: POM files missing
On 02/16/2012 03:43 PM, sebastiaocl...@netscape.net wrote: -Original Message- From: sebastiaocleto sebastiaocl...@netscape.net To: iheim ih...@redhat.com Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 5:56 pm Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing Thank you for your prompt response. Already tried those commands, but with no success, errors are repeated. I do have started again with a jboss installed from zip file, maybe it work ok. I do have observed too, that pom.xml files do reference a variables like ${commons-collections}, that don't was initialized and, consequently, the commands *mvn clean install -Pdep,setup* can't find the files that they need. Are there some configuration file that I can initialize those variables? you are building at root folder, right? -Pdep doesn't work with clean. it is supposed to deploy the EAR you built the previous step iirc. Thank you. Sebastião Cleto. can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than environment? -Original Message- From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com To: sebastiaocleto sebastiaocl...@netscape.net mailto:sebastiaocl...@netscape.net Cc: users users@ovirt.org mailto:users@ovirt.org Sent: Wed, Feb 15, 2012 2:28 pm Subject: Re: [Users] POM files missing On 02/15/2012 06:06 PM,sebastiaocl...@netscape.net wrote: Hi! I read the message from *Itamar Heim*respondingto *Thomas Broda*about the POM missing files, writing in December 05, 2011, but I could not found those files, in any sub directories under my $OVIRT_HOME, after the previous command: mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin can you try to rule out broken unitests failing you, rather than environment? mvn clean install -Pgwt-user,gwt-admin -DskipTests Just one error is reported after: *Results : Failed tests: testformatValueWithTime(org.ovirt.engine.core.searchbackend.AuditLogConditionFieldAutoCompleterTest) Tests run: 30, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0* I'm trying to build ovirt-engine under Debian Squeeze 6.0.4. Hereafter my settings.xml: settings xmlns=http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0; xmlns:xsi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance; xsi:schemaLocation=http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/settings-1.0.0.xsd; !-- PROFILES -- activeProfiles activeProfileoVirtEnvSettings/activeProfile /activeProfiles profiles profile idoVirtEnvSettings/id properties jbossHome/etc/jbossas5/jbossHome JAVA_1_6_HOME/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/JAVA_1_6_HOME forkTestsalways/forkTests /properties /profile /profiles /settings Thanks a lot. Sebastião Cleto. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Setting UUID
- Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: Livnat Peer lp...@redhat.com Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:43:30 AM Subject: Re: [Users] Setting UUID On 02/18/2012 11:15 PM, Livnat Peer wrote: On 18/02/12 22:33, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Livnat Peer wrote: How about setting the VM name instead of UUID? It won't update permissions automatically though. Not sure I follow, VM name is good, but there are all sorts of things that care about UUID changing. off the top my head I can think of - permissions - events - tags - quota Permission and Quota can be handled manually the other two won't point to 'new' VM. That is why we are looking for the ability to set it. Today it looks like all UUIDs are random, and I assume that a UUID needs to be unique, but how hard would it be to be able to specify a UUID? Libvirt allows this to be done and we do it all the time in our XML kvm files. Changing VM id does not sound like a complicated feature, when designing such a feature need to think of what are the impact on the history DB and events in the audit log (if such id was in use before). Nathan - it would be good to start by explaining if you care about the UUID as the engine sees it, or as devices and applications see it in the guest. I'm guessing you care about the guest. to do what you want, would rquire decoupling the uuid as used by engine to identify the guest, from the one vdsm exposes to the guest. today the entire chain (including libvirt) uses the same uuid. That was my first reaction when reading that: Not sure that you want to break that, it will require more mapping later. Assume an external monitoring tool the collects stats, if the VM has the same hardware UUID as the engine uses it will be easier to correlate the data separately from a guest agent and from the history DB. But then I've started to think that in some DR scenarios where both VMs (backup and source) are on the same engine but different clusters/sites. I think that an option to manually set the UUID of a VM is a must. So a better option would be to have HW UUID field in the VM properties where like for MACs you'll have the option to generate automatically or set manually. This mapping must be managed by the engine for use cases as I've mentioned above. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0
SRPMS and new RPMS/tarballs are now available at ovirt.org. - Original Message - Hi. SRС RPM packages are not found [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yum install ovirt-engine-cli Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, security Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * elrepo: jur-linux.org * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org Setting up Install Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed -- Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch -- Processing Dependency: ovirt-engine-sdk = 1.5 for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch -- Processing Dependency: python-ply for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch -- Processing Dependency: python-setuptools for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package ovirt-engine-cli.noarch 0:2.0-1.fc16 will be installed -- Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch -- Processing Dependency: python-ply for package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch --- Package ovirt-engine-sdk.noarch 0:1.5-1.fc16 will be installed -- Processing Dependency: python(abi) = 2.7 for package: ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch --- Package python-setuptools.noarch 0:0.6.10-3.el6 will be installed -- Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) Requires: python(abi) = 2.7 Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1) python(abi) = 2.6 Error: Package: ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) Requires: python-ply Error: Package: ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1.fc16.noarch (ovirt-engine) Requires: python(abi) = 2.7 Installed: python-2.6.6-29.el6.x86_64 (@sl/6.1) python(abi) = 2.6 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest [root@noc-2-synt ~]# yumdownloader --source ovirt-engine-cli Loaded plugins: fastestmirror Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile * elrepo: jur-linux.org * sl: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-debuginfo: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-fastbugs: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-security: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-testing: ftp2.scientificlinux.org * sl-testing-source: ftp2.scientificlinux.org Enabling sl-source repository No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-1.2-1.fc16.x86_64 No source RPM found for ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1.fc16.noarch [root@noc-2-synt ~]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/ovirt-engine.repo [ovirt-engine] name=ovirt-engine baseurl=http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 -Original Message- From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Michael Pasternak Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:55 PM To: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] ANNOUNCE: ovirt-engine-cli 2.0 Please use second release (it's fixes typo in 'create vm' template argument) ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-2.fc16.noarch.rpm ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-2.fc16.noarch.rpm On 02/16/2012 01:27 PM, Michael Pasternak wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to announce the general oVirt CLI 2.0 availability, New features: - New application core. - Added support for commands history stack. - Added support for context aware auto-completion. - Dynamic ovirt-engine-sdk metadata discovering. - Dynamic help for each command and resource. - Removed restriction for specific version of ovirt-engine-sdk from 1.5 and further ovirt-engine-cli can work with any version of sdk (unless sdk introduced cli incompatible change). - same naming convention in ovirt-engine-cli and ovirt-engine-sdk. - reformatted output to support reduced and expended modes in 'list' in 'show' commands by --show-all argument. - new object fields formatting. - added support for linux bash commands from the cli. - shell redirection support. - added SSL connection capabilities to 'connect' command. - added API version discovering mechanism. RPMs http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-sdk-1.5-1 .fc16.noarch.rpm http://www.ovirt.org/releases/nightly/fedora/16/ovirt-engine-cli-2.0-1 .fc16.noarch.rpm Misc - use 'help' for syntax/arguments questions. - use TAB completion for option variables as they get converted to command line options with different syntax. - cli still requires super-user, this restriction will be drooped at next version. -- Michael Pasternak RedHat, ENG-Virtualization RD ___ Users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped. P.S. Are there any plans for redundant ovirt engines in the works? Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Shu Mingshum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com IBM China Systems and Technology Laboratory ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] [vdsm] Restoring Virtual Machines
On 02/19/2012 04:45 PM, Igor Lvovsky wrote: -Original Message- From: vdsm-devel-boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org [mailto:vdsm-devel- boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Itamar Heim Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:13 PM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org; vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org Subject: Re: [vdsm] [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines On 02/17/2012 11:51 AM, ?? wrote: Can I use the data of storage domain, created in the old ovirt to import virtual machines in a new ovirt? It is possible to convert the data of storage domain in export domain manually? To mount it as a Export domain in a new overt No, it's impossible. The export domain has specific layout (similar to layout of master domain) that contains for example VM's ovf files. In theory you can 'hijack' master domain, but the flow is very complicated and not recommended. if someone has only a single master storage domain, why can't they make it an export domain? cc-ing vdsm-devel on how to change the metadata of the SD to make it an export domain, instead of a data domain (which is pretty arbitrary iirc). -Original Message- From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:36 AM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Restoring Virtual Machines On 02/15/2012 11:43 AM, ?? wrote: hi, in the process of testing ovirt some questions: 1. If you are upgrading ovirt we erased the database postgress, whether it is possible to restore the list of virtual machines without having to restore the database from the dump? Take a virtual machine working on the nodes. not easily right now. easiest (other than restore) would probably be to make the storage domain into an export domain, and import from it in the new engine. 2. Is it possible to manage virtual machines through the cli? yes. 3. Is it possible to arrange a backup of virtual machines without interruption of its performance? I don't think there is a simple answer to this question. can you explain what is the exact concern? thanks, Itamar ___ vdsm-devel mailing list vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/vdsm-devel ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. Hi Brent, ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the engine core requires many packages. If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There are things that need to be taken care of such as- - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process of the host.. - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any circumstances, in order to protect the engine core. - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So here again we need to be careful. To conclude, it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and engine-core. However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are thoughts and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time. -- /d “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuck dfedi...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. Hi Brent, ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the engine core requires many packages. If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There are things that need to be taken care of such as- - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process of the host.. - Fencing the co-hosted machine should not be fenced under any circumstances, in order to protect the engine core. - Networking... networking changes may impact the engine core as well. So here again we need to be careful. To conclude, it is possible to create a co-hosted machine used both by vdsm and engine-core. However, we need to verify the machine is not being rebooted. There are thoughts and maybe some work on achieving it, but it will take some time. -- /d “Funny,” he intoned funereally, “how just when you think life can't possibly get any worse it suddenly does.” --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Thanks for your reply. I've used XEN, ESX and now i'm focusing on KVM because that's where I think the technology is going. Very interested in the GUI management and not having to use windows for the engine database(ESX) or windows client(vSphere). The ovirt node ISO is still pretty buggy from what I've seen. stdout errors and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. Any way I was able to install ovirt engine and vdsm by looking at the install guides using fedora 16 x86_64 DVD ISO. Doing a minimal install. Was able to bring up the mgmt UI. Saw exactly what your talking about requiring a reboot when adding a node host. Wasn't sure if that's the way it's suppose to work or not. Kinda like the surgeon working on his own hands!. Don't think the node registration fully installed itself because it re-booty up'ed itself. Networking isn't very clear if the above was tried. Example: using loopback 127.0.0.1 as the host node address. Not sure if the node host has to be reachable via a bridged network etc... . Thought it was worth the question because I'd like to know. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] migration failed
Thank you! There was a wrong host on one of the nodes in /etc/hostname -Original Message- From: Nathan Stratton [mailto:nat...@robotics.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:27 PM To: ?? Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] migration failed On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, ?? wrote: How do I fix it? I checked the host name on both nodes and found that they resolves correctly (there is an entry in /etc/hostname). In DNS hostname is not registered (!) Have you tried entering them all in /etc/hosts? Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
Hi Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is suspended? Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the virtual machine. This is the right behavior? Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended virtual machine to. I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Engine as a VM
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Shu Ming wrote: On 2012-2-19 2:16, Nathan Stratton wrote: Had anyone created a how to or notes on how to manage an ovirt engine as a guest on the cluster? This should be possible, when the cluster is powered up for the first time it would require some specialized instructions to fire up the ovirt engine on a node. Does the guest(VM) hosting the ovirt-engine be managed by the ovirt-engine? If It does, it looks like a logical loop here. Say, if the ovirt-engine stop the hosting VM, the ovirt-engine will also be stopped. There are issues to be worked out, but I think it makes more sense then dedicated hardware for the ovirt-engine. Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed. I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server? Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com Y. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
On 02/19/2012 10:30 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Yaniv Kaul wrote: Sorry, my fault - should have seen it earlier - we do not support OpenLDAP yet - we fail to parse its rootDSE, therefore do not have a way to proceed. I think there's a RFE for it somewhere filed, but if not, worth filing. Ouch, do you support Apache Directory Server? Sorry Nathan, we do not support this one as well. Yair Nathan StrattonCTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.nethttp://www.blinkmind.com Y. ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote: and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to reboot. Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting reinstall fixes it other times not. Makes me wonder if ovirt iso install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants. It should be able to. Over the past months we've made numerous fixes for this. However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under Troubleshooting menu option in Grub) So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall. In any case, we should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install. If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we can definitely try to make this more user friendly. Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes running the mgmt server there not possible. I don't understand this statement. Are you talking about firewall stateless connections? The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless. If you attempt to install an rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost. The entire filesystem is in RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk. If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was designed for. I understand this. However in these days of my old age I don't run half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment. Right now I accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager Right. We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way. You should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora 16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup. All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near enough OS to run a mgmt server. Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine inside that VM. However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being registered with the oVirt Engine. I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be colocated as a VM. Anyone have any thoughts on that? The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using native kvm, management server without the need of windows server, vmotion type clustering etc... All of that is accurate I am going to look over Doron notes. Specifically the networking. Cheers... keep up the good work. Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :) Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots
On 19/02/12 23:27, зоррыч wrote: Support a living export (similar to a live snapshot) will be added in the future? We have a request to provide a backup API and it is on the roadmap not sure how soon we'll handle that. Another feature you can find relevant (and will be available soon) is creating VM from snapshot. Although far from perfect you can use live snapshot and then create VM from that snapshot. (If you really want this on export domain you can export the VM you created). Livnat -Original Message- From: Livnat Peer [mailto:lp...@redhat.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:56 PM To: зоррыч Cc: users@ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Suspend VM and export or snapshots On 19/02/12 19:40, зоррыч wrote: Hi Why can not I make a snapshot or export a virtual machine while it is suspended? Ovirt do not give me that opportunity. To export or snapshot, turn off the virtual machine. This is the right behavior? Currently taking a snapshot and exporting a suspended VM is not supported. Many hypervisors allow you to do a backup (or snapshot) with a suspended virtual machine to. I can manually enable this feature in ovirt? it is very inconvenient. Very soon (in a few weeks), we'll have live snapshot which enables taking a snapshot while the VM is running, hope this helps. Livnat ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 20/02/12 03:55, Perry Myers wrote: On 02/19/2012 07:17 PM, Brent Bolin wrote: and the install just not working without more then one attempt. Can you provide more details? Otherwise we can't fix the issues. Just that the installer says it fails and the only option is to reboot. Sometimes going into the troubleshooting option and selecting reinstall fixes it other times not. Makes me wonder if ovirt iso install can't handle pre existing partions/lvm remnants. It should be able to. Over the past months we've made numerous fixes for this. However, if you have already installed oVirt Node to the disk, you need to select the 'Reinstall' option from the Grub menu (listed under Troubleshooting menu option in Grub) So perhaps what you're seeing is Install vs. Reinstall. In any case, we should handle this more gracefully or at least provide some add'l diagnostics to indicate the core reason why it failed to install. If you could file a bug against the ovirt-node component in bugzilla, we can definitely try to make this more user friendly. Even tried breaking in as root to install ovirt engine repos without success. Getting some odd errors when trying to set the root password to a known value. Echoing what Doron said in his reply... Don't try to install oVirt Engine onto oVirt Node. The stateless nature of oVirt Node makes running the mgmt server there not possible. I don't understand this statement. Are you talking about firewall stateless connections? The filesystem in oVirt Node is stateless. If you attempt to install an rpm, when you reboot the changes are lost. The entire filesystem is in RAM aside from a few select configuration files that are manually persisted to a 5MB config partition on disk. If you want to run the Engine on the same machine as other oVirt controlled VMs, then you should use a heavyweight install of Fedora and put the Engine and VDSM side by side on that. The fact that you can't easily run oVirt Engine on the oVirt Node is not a bug, or a sign of instability. It's simply not what oVirt Node was designed for. I understand this. However in these days of my old age I don't run half a dozen chassis, skins, power supplies, hd's, mb etc... like to use virtualization hosts for my personal lab environment. Right now I accomplish this using a kvm host and virt-manager Right. We're not suggesting that you can't use oVirt in this way. You should absolutely be able to use a single physical host running Fedora 16 and on that host run both the oVirt Engine as well as vdsm, so that you can have an 'oVirt in a single box' setup. All we were saying here is that you can't use oVirt Node specifically to do the above, since it's a livecd with a stateless filesystem and contains 'just enough OS' to run virtual machines, and no where near enough OS to run a mgmt server. Now, what should be possible... is to run oVirt Node and run on that node a single VM that is not managed by oVirt Engine, and run the engine inside that VM. However in order to do this, you'd need to get past a chicken-egg issue with starting a VM on oVirt Node prior to it being registered with the oVirt Engine. I wonder if we should expose a special command/config option in oVirt Node to allow it to run a single VM so that oVirt Engine can be colocated as a VM. Anyone have any thoughts on that? I think worth opening a discussion on arch list. The real power from what I read about the ovirt road map is using native kvm, management server without the need of windows server, vmotion type clustering etc... All of that is accurate I am going to look over Doron notes. Specifically the networking. Cheers... keep up the good work. Thanks for the feedback and experimentation :) Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] LDAP
Hey, More information on the domain infrastructure we have can be found in: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/DomainInfrastructure (I might update it more soon, but it can give you a basic view of how the domain management in oVirt is working, and what do you need to update in order to support a new ldap provider). Oved - Original Message - From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com To: Nathan Stratton nat...@robotics.net Cc: users@ovirt.org Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 11:14:24 PM Subject: Re: [Users] LDAP On 02/19/2012 11:11 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Itamar Heim wrote: the current code supports AD, freeIPA/IPA and 389ds/RHDS. if apache directory server is similar to any of them, you could try hacking the code to add support for it. Ok, will go with 389 for now, its in the family, tho Gluster is in the family and you don't support it as a storage file system... : ) please remember you need 389ds with kerberos support. gluster is in the works... see: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/AddingGlusterSupportToOvirt Just kidding, you guys are great, keep up the good work. Nathan Stratton CTO, BlinkMind, Inc. nathan at robotics.net nathan at blinkmind.com http://www.robotics.net http://www.blinkmind.com ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Is it possible to run the node and engine on the same box?
On 02/20/2012 09:12 AM, Livnat Peer wrote: On 19/02/12 19:21, Brent Bolin wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Doron Fediuckdfedi...@redhat.com wrote: On 19/02/12 15:33, Brent Bolin wrote: Assume if it was possible fedora 16 with the additional repos would be suggested. Hi Brent, ovirt-node is read-only by nature (with the exception of some configurations). This means you cannot simply install rpm's on it. Instead both vdsm and the engine core needs to be pre-built on the node. This is not trivial, as the engine core requires many packages. If we assume you're using standard Fedora to be able to install rpm's, then we come to the next set of issues; co-hosting engine core with vdsm. There are things that need to be taken care of such as- - Adding the same host as a new host into the engine will cause reboot, which is not a good thing to do to the engine core during the installation process of the host.. We are adding a flag (host property) to avoid host reboot at the end of host installation. This will be available soon and we are thinking to expose it only through the API (not in the UI). I think there are two different reboot's being discussed here: 1. reboot at end of an ovirt-node installation by ovirt node installation process (anaconda?) 2. reboot at end of configuring a full blown host (i.e., pre installed fedora), by ovirt-engine. I'm assuming perry was talking on #1. doron is talking on #2, since all-in-one is not relevant at this point for #1. 2. reb ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users