Re: [Users] Node Stateless

2012-06-11 Thread Mike Burns
On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 23:03 +0200, Olivier Doucet wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I wondered what is the progress on stateless node support in oVirt ?
 Page http://ovirt.org/wiki/Node_Stateless is not really updated.
 Is there a working iso to test ? What needs to be done ? And also,
 what would you need to move forward on this task ?

Hi Olivier,

This is currently still a work in progress.  I updated the wiki page a
couple weeks ago with the latest status (and haven't managed to do any
work on it since then).  

A basic summary:  stateless works, but with some limitations.

Limitations:

1.  No swap or overcommit.  We do not touch any disk at all, so there is
no swap available, and thus no overcommit possible with a stateless
node.
2.  No local storage domain -- not a big deal since most deployments
want shared storage of some sort, but same reasoning as #1
3.  Limited support from engine/vdsm.  This one is a bigger deal than #1
and #2.  engine doesn't understand the concept of a stateless node, so
it treats a stateless node the same as a stateful one.  This results in
the admin having to remove/re-add/re-approve the node on each reboot.  

All ISOs starting with 2.3.0 should have this support already.  You
simply need to add stateless (without quotes) to the kernel command
line at boot, along with other auto-install parameters to configure the
node and the host will be up and running.  

As for steps forward, we're currently focused almost entirely on getting
a node based on F17 working right now.  Once that is done and out the
door, we'll re-visit this feature.  

If you're looking to get involved, some of the functionality for solving
#1 and #2 is already available in the code.  Basically, what needs to be
done is add support in the TUI for AppVG and add some additional
handling around AppVG in auto-install.

As for #3, there isn't much left to do on the node itself, but we need a
decision from the engine and vdsm teams on how they want to handle this
long term.  There are a few ways to do it, all of which have their own
pros and cons.

Mike

 
 Thank you !
 
 Olivier
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Re: [Users] Windows install / activation issues.

2012-06-11 Thread Andrew Cathrow


- Original Message -
 From: Robert Middleswarth rob...@middleswarth.net
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:44:03 PM
 Subject: [Users] Windows install / activation issues.
 
 I am slowly doing my stage two testing now.  I have been finding very
 few issues that is pretty good since 3.1 is just going into feature
 freeze but I did find one that is kinda a show stopper and weird for
 me.  I installed windows 2003 using my Dell CD on my Dell Hardware.
  On
 both ESXi and Xen Server windows authorization fine because the
 installer sees the Dell bias in some way but under oVirt it doesn't.
  From my research it looks like the feature is called SLP.  Is there
 anyway to pass the Dell SLP info to the installer like it is done
 under
 both Xen and Vmware ESXi?  I assume it would be a libVirt option of
 some
 kind I just can't find it.

Some specific SMBIOS strings are being passed to identify the hypervisor.
There isn't a feature that enabled passing select host bios strings in oVirt 
yet (patches welcome) but you can do this with a hook, see here

http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=vdsm.git;a=tree;f=vdsm_hooks/smbios;h=c61ce8e73dc66791eb0390be3e764541b34c1137;hb=HEAD


 
 Thanks
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[Users] Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Sync 2012-06-13

2012-06-11 Thread Mike Burns
This is the agenda for the 2012-06-13 meeting:

  * Status of Next Release
  * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node)
  * Upcoming workshops

Any other topics to discuss?

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Re: [Users] Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Sync 2012-06-13

2012-06-11 Thread Dave Neary

Hi,

On 06/11/2012 03:46 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

This is the agenda for the 2012-06-13 meeting:

   * Status of Next Release
   * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node)
   * Upcoming workshops

Any other topics to discuss?


I'd like to attend and discuss how the OSAS team inside RedHat can help 
oVirt - I have been working with Itamar and others to put something 
together, and I think it would be great to get more input on what we 
have so far. Would that be appropriate for the meeting?


Thanks,
Dave.

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Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat
Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62
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Re: [Users] Call For Agenda Items -- oVirt Weekly Sync 2012-06-13

2012-06-11 Thread Mike Burns
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 16:30 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 06/11/2012 03:46 PM, Mike Burns wrote:
  This is the agenda for the 2012-06-13 meeting:
 
 * Status of Next Release
 * Sub-project reports (engine, vdsm, node)
 * Upcoming workshops
 
  Any other topics to discuss?
 
 I'd like to attend and discuss how the OSAS team inside RedHat can help 
 oVirt - I have been working with Itamar and others to put something 
 together, and I think it would be great to get more input on what we 
 have so far. Would that be appropriate for the meeting?
 
 Thanks,
 Dave.
 

Sure, I'll add it to the agenda.  Please be available on Wednesday at
14:00 UTC (10:00 EDT) to lead this discussion.

Thanks

Mike

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Re: [Users] VDSM errors on fedora17

2012-06-11 Thread Adam Litke
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:23:22AM +0300, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:35:06PM +0300, Itamar Heim wrote:
  On 06/07/2012 10:10 AM, Haim Ateya wrote:
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: ov...@qip.ru
  To: users@ovirt.org
  Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:22:35 AM
  Subject: [Users] VDSM errors on fedora17
  
  
  VDSM from http:// www . ovirt .org/releases/beta/fedora/17/ www.
  ovirt .org/releases/beta/fedora/17/ ovirt
  -engine-dbscripts-3.1.0_0001-0. gitf 093e0.fc17.noarch.rpm  gitf
  093e0
  
  VDSM started and working but
  
  1. after start there was error in vdsm .log
  
  MainThread:: ERROR ::2012-06-07 10:05:23,883::clientIF::151::vds::(_
  prepareBindings ) Unable to load the rest server module. Please make
  sure it is installed.
  
  please install: vdsm-rest-4.9.6-2.gite952471.fc17.noarch.rpm
  
  should this be an error, or only an INFO that the REST bindings are
  not installed?
 
 I think INFO should have been enough.

That means that rest was set to enabled in vdsm.conf but it is not installed.
Maybe that's an error because we cannot comply with a specific configuration
request.  I can see it both ways.

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Re: [Users] Anyone started working on the documentation for GlusterFS and Ovirt 3.1 yet?

2012-06-11 Thread Shireesh Anjal

On Sunday 10 June 2012 02:02 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote:

On 06/09/2012 11:33 AM, Haim Ateya wrote:

adding Shireesh\Daniel

Hi Robert,

afaik, there is no official documentation that show's how to work
with glusterFS using oVirt since its too new and we are in early 
integration phases (shireesh, correct me if i'm wrong).

That is why I asked is anyone has started working on the doc's


Here is the feature page: http://ovirt.org/wiki/Features/Gluster_Support
We intend to add more documentation soon, though nothing else is 
available right now.


I would start by browsing tohttp://www.gluster.org/  and read about 
the underlying technology (glusterFS, admin guide is good place to 
start).
Read though there doc's but wasn't sure how much needed to be done 
using native glusterfs tools and how much is done using ovirt engine 
because of the fact it was recently integrated means there are still 
likely holes in the process.


Most of the features mentioned in the feature page, except async tasks 
(rebalance volume, migrate brick) and bootstrapping changes are 
currently available from UI and REST api. You should run engine with the 
option InstallVds set to false and SSL disabled (on both engine and 
vdsm). When creating clusters, make sure you select the checkbox to 
enable gluster services, and always add hosts to such clusters from UI only.


as for tips and hints, I will describe what you need in general (very 
high-level):


- cluster and data-center - edit cluster and set the gluster check box
- host side (vds):
   * install vdsm-gluster package
   * install all gluster-related packages
   * make sure all gluster related services are fully operational
Didn't see vdsm-gluster when I built the nodes but when I looked for 
the package it was there.  Already had all the glusterfs services 
running.
- create new volume (volume is a collection of bricks which represent 
a collection of export domains):

   * allocate storage space on your host
   * make sure this space is exposed via export (NFS) directory
   * create new volume\bricks
This is where I am confused.  glusterfs supports 3 methods of exposing 
the cluster.  Is ovirt using the NFS or the native(fs) method?  If it 
is NFS why the interface for bricks?  Wouldn't you just create a giant 
nfs share?  This is the area I am most confused with and looking for 
hints on.


To be more precise, glusterfs supports 3 methods of exposing a *volume*, 
and not cluster. A cluster can contain a number of volumes. In Gluster 
terminology, Bricks (server:directory) are building blocks of a 
volume. Volumes can be exported using native (GLUSTER), NFS or CIFS 
protocols, though only GLUSTER and NFS are available from the UI for 
now. A volume need not necessarily have bricks on all servers of the 
cluster. If you want one giant NFS share spread over all servers of the 
cluster, you'll have to use one brick from each of the servers when 
creating the volume, and then export the Volume via NFS.


Feel free to ask glusterfs specific questions on the #gluster IRC 
channel on FreeNode.




Thanks
Robert

Thanks,

Haim
- Original Message -

From: Robert Middleswarthrob...@middleswarth.net
To:users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 9:23:40 PM
Subject: [Users] Anyone started working on the documentation for 
GlusterFS and Ovirt 3.1 yet?


I installed ovirt 3.1 using the assume repo provided by
http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/  and it works really well.  Been a few
glitches but overall it works well.  I see an interface for GlusterFS
is
in there but no clue how to use it any hints or info been created
yet?

Thanks
Robert

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