Re: [Users] Cannot connect to VM via browser if engine was not in /etc/hosts

2013-06-24 Thread Itamar Heim
On 06/24/2013 10:37 AM, lof yer wrote:
 Is 'engine-config -s SSLEnabled=false' or special spice parameter?

It should do the trick.

 
 
 2013/6/24 Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com mailto:ih...@redhat.com
 
 On 06/24/2013 03:10 AM, lofyer wrote:
 
 于 2013/6/24 1:47, Itamar Heim 写道:
 
 On 06/06/2013 11:51 AM, lof yer wrote:
 
 I connect https://192.168.1.111 and connect to the VM,
 then the
 remote-viewer shows up, but failed to show the VM desktop.
 Is it the https problem?
 Can I connect to the VM without modify /etc/hosts?
 
 
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 was this resolved? sounds like a certificate/dns issue?
 
 Yes, it's certificate/dns problem.
 But how can I connect via IP instead of FQDN without https?
 
 
 i guess it depends if you can tell spice client to not validate the
 ssl certificate.
 
 

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Re: [Users] Password reset of ovirt wiki not working

2013-06-24 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Montag, den 24.06.2013, 00:41 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
 Hi,
 
 I did some digging, and it turns out that some time in the last 2 weeks,
 a change in the PaaS we use has resulted in emails no longer being sent.
 I've informed the authorities and will come back with more information
 when I have it.

That's a nice info regarding the cause of this problem.

- fabian

 Cheers,
 Dave.
 
 
 On 06/18/2013 03:06 PM, j.astr...@netbulae.eu wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Nope, tried it about a dozen times with time in between.
  
  -- 
  Regards,
  Jorick Astrego
  
 
  From: Laszlo Hornyak lhorn...@redhat.com
  To: j astrego j.astr...@netbulae.eu
  Cc: ovirt-users users@ovirt.org
  Date: 06/18/2013 13:32
  Subject: Re: [Users] Password reset of ovirt wiki not working
 
  Hi,
 
  Try it again! I get this error page on just any random save in the
  wiki, but after a retry it usually works.
 
  Laszlo
 
  - Original Message -
   From: j astrego j.astr...@netbulae.eu
   To: ovirt-users users@ovirt.org
   Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:45:14 PM
   Subject: [Users] Password reset of ovirt wiki not working
  
   Hi,
  
   Maybe this is not really for this list, but I don't know where
  else to submit
   it ;-)
  
   I try to request a new password for the Ovirt wiki and get this error:
  
   Internal error
  
   Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of
  LocalSettings.php to
   show detailed debugging information.
  
   --
   Kind regards,
  
   Jorick Astrego
   Netbulae B.V.
   Site: http://www.netbulae.eu http://www.netbulae.eu/
  
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Re: [Users] Password reset of ovirt wiki not working

2013-06-24 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

On 06/24/2013 10:16 AM, Fabian Deutsch wrote:
 Am Montag, den 24.06.2013, 00:41 +0200 schrieb Dave Neary:
 I did some digging, and it turns out that some time in the last 2 weeks,
 a change in the PaaS we use has resulted in emails no longer being sent.
 I've informed the authorities and will come back with more information
 when I have it.
 
 That's a nice info regarding the cause of this problem.

More detail: https://fedorahosted.org/ovirt/ticket/60

I'm still hunting, because the bugzilla bug I reference above has been
closed, but I still have an issue.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Users] Fedora upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2

2013-06-24 Thread Karli Sjöberg
sön 2013-06-23 klockan 09:38 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie:


Hi Karli

I've written up all we know at [1], please try to follow it (if you
haven't yet) and let us know how it goes. If anything goes wrong, we
will look for the ways to resolve it.


Hi Alex!

Awesome job, I´m going to test this right away and let you know how it goes. 
Wish me luck;)

/Karli




Alex.

[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.1_to_3.2_upgrade

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alex Lourie 
alou...@redhat.commailto:alou...@redhat.com wrote:
 Hi Karli

 I am reviewing all the actions again, and hopefully will have
 something
 documented on Sunday.

 Alex.

 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karli Sjöberg
 karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se
 wrote:
  tis 2013-06-18 klockan 10:06 +0300 skrev Moran Goldboim: On
  06/17/2013 02:51 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
 
 
   mån 2013-06-17 klockan 10:11 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: On Fri,
  Jun 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg 
  karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se
  wrote:
   Hi!
  
 
  Hi Karli,
 
  
   More than two months have passed without any notices or
 updates
  on
   this issue, and looking at the bugreport absolutely nothing
 has
  been
   done since then. What´s confusing me is that the release
  management
   for oVirt 3.2 has this clearly printed:
   MUST: Upgrade from previous release
  
   And you all seem too busy with getting the next release out of
  the
   door before fixing the current... What gives? Don´t you care
  about
   early adopters?
  
 
  I apologise that this issue wasn't taken care of yet. It is
 clear
  that
  the priorities of developers shifted towards work on features in
  3.3
  release, which feature freeze is happening in about 2 weeks, so
  you can
  understand the time pressure they all have. There's no need to
 be
  angry
  about that. It is an open source project and as resources for
 the
  development are limited, we're trying to do our best to cover as
  much
  issues as possible. This can lead to situations as this issue,
  which
  may be left behind for some time.
 
 
  I´m not angry, as I stated before, I´m more confused, and maybe
 a
  little disappointed that important(in my opinion) pieces of a
  projects continuum have been ignored like that. I´m having a
 hard
  time understanding the reasoning behind the priorities that have
  made this issue appear. In my mind, making sure that users of any
  project are able to follow between minor upgrades is a given,
 with
  a schedule like; 1) Feature freeze, 2) Fix release blockers
  (upgrading being one of them), 3) Release, in that order. Now
  what´s happening is that you are kind of hoping to drag this out
  until the problem goes away by itself when you decide it´s time
 to
  stop supporting 3.1.
 
  That said, the process for upgrading the oVirt 3.1 on Fedora 17
 to
  oVirt 3.2 on Fedora 18 is complex and non-trivial, that's why it
  is
  taking time to resolve all the issues that come up in the
 process.
 
  If this matter is not extremely urgent, we are currently working
  on a
  tool that may make this upgrade easier, albeit, maybe, not
  completely
  automatic.
 
  On the other hand, if this is a completely and utterly urgent,
 we
  may
  try to guide you through possible manual attempts to perform the
  upgrade. Mind though, that they weren't thoroughly tested, and
 not
  promised to go smoothly or even work, and we may have to think
  about
  possible alternative solutions on the go.
 
 
  Straight answer: Am I ever going to be able to upgrade from 3.1
 to
  3.2?
 
  My concern (fear) is about being left behind, abandoned. It makes
  me feel non-important. Just like any admin, the work put down to
  make Templates, to set up quotas, create VMPools, a dozen of
  guests. And then have to export everything (nullifying the idea
 of
  Thin Provisioning), redo every Role, reset every permission,
  quota, and so on, isn´t (in my opinion) viable in the long run
 for
  oVirt as a project to demand. That´s why I had the notion that
  upgrading surely had to be a high priority. Was I wrong about
 that?
 
 
  upgrade actually was high priority task, but due to lots of
 platform
  (fedora 18) changes, it became a huge operation to support it
 (which
  comes on top new features/bugs/support etc.).
  in addition we have noticed that the interest from the community
  regarding it, is very limited.
 
  from where i see i we have couple of options:
  -if there is enough interest from the community we can give it
  another go (though i think most of it moved long ago to oVirt 3.2)
 
 
  You certainly have my interest at least;)
 
  -we can help individuals by making a migration (3.1-3.2) document
  on fedora base systems- we'll probably need your assistance on
  testing side here
 
 
  A document explaining how to upgrade would be completly acceptable
  for me. I´m not asking for a turnkey command that makes everything
  for me, I´ve managed to get quite far by myself any way. I would
  love 

Re: [Users] Problems using the PythonSDK

2013-06-24 Thread Karli Sjöberg
sön 2013-06-23 klockan 20:48 +0300 skrev Itamar Heim:


On 06/05/2013 07:58 AM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
 tis 2013-06-04 klockan 16:32 +0300 skrev Michael Pasternak:
 Karli,

 On 06/04/2013 04:05 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
  Hello everyone!
 
  I´m almost done with Python for now. But the last thing I sitll can´t seem 
  to get any hang on is how to change the name of a VM´s disk:

 please use disk.alias property, name is deprecated and for backward 
 compatibility only.

 It doesn´t matter what property I use, the name doesn´t change any way!
 Please read below, you´ll see I even tried defining .alias and .name at
 the same time, then update, but still no change. Could you please post
 the correct, and working way of doing this, please.


 
  from ovirtsdk.api import API
  from ovirtsdk.xml import params
  api = API(url='https://${OVIRT}:443 https://storm.slu.se:443', 
  ca_file='/etc/pki/ovirt-engine/ca.pem', username='admin@internal 
  mailto:'admin@internal',
  password='letmein!')
  VM_NAME = 'FedoraTest'
  DISK_NAME = '%s_Disk1' % (VM_NAME)
  vm = api.vms.get(VM_NAME)
  vmdisk = vm.disks.list()[0]
  vmdisk.alias = 'foobar'
  vmdisk.name = 'foobar'
  vmdisk.update()
  ovirtsdk.infrastructure.brokers.VMDisk object at 0x25d7ad0
 
  But the name/alias/whatev never changes...
 
  Could you please give me an exact, and working example of how to change 
  the name of a VM´s disk. This is the last simple thing I would like to 
  accomplish before sharing a
  little something back with y´all(teaser, teaser).
 
  /Karli
 
  sön 2013-05-26 klockan 02:48 -0400 skrev Ilia Meerovich:
  Hi,
 
  Lets followhttp://www.ovirt.org/Python-sdk
 
  In [1]: from ovirtsdk.xml import params
 
  In [2]: from ovirtsdk.api import API
 
  In [3]:
 
  In [4]: api = API(***, ***, ***)
 
  In [5]: user_name = ***
 
  In [6]: domain = ***.***.***.redhat.com
 
  In [7]: user_domain = params.Domain(name=domain)
 
  In [8]: user_name = {0}@{1}.format(user_name, domain)
  # creating user
  In [9]: new_user = params.User(domain=user_domain, user_name=user_name)
  # adding user to users resource
  In [10]: user = api.users.add(new_user)
  # adding role to user
  In [11]: user.roles.add(api.roles.get('UserRole'))
  Out[11]: ovirtsdk.infrastructure.brokers.UserRole object at 0x30c7590
 
  Thanks
  Ilia
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  
  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se
  To: Ilia Meerovich imeer...@redhat.commailto:imeer...@redhat.com  
  mailto:imeer...@redhat.com  mailto:imeer...@redhat.com
  Cc: Michael Pasternak mpast...@redhat.commailto:mpast...@redhat.com  
  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com, users 
  users@ovirt.orgmailto:users@ovirt.org  mailto:users@ovirt.org  
  mailto:users@ovirt.org, Elena Dolinin 
  edoli...@redhat.commailto:edoli...@redhat.com  
  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com
  Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 8:04:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Users] Problems using the PythonSDK
 
  tor 2013-05-23 klockan 08:53 -0400 skrev Ilia Meerovich:
 
  It should be like:
 
  from ovirtsdk.xml import params
  from ovirtsdk.api import API
 
  api = API('*', '*', '*')
  vm = api.vms.list()[0]
  user =  api.users.list()[1]
  role = api.roles.list()[1]
  permit = params.Permission()
  permit.set_role(role)
  permit.set_vm(vm)
  user.permissions.add(permit)
  Thank you very much, I´m going to test this out today! Could you also 
  show me how to first add a user that isn´t in the system yet, please?
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ilia Meerovich imeer...@redhat.commailto:imeer...@redhat.com  
  mailto:imeer...@redhat.com  mailto:imeer...@redhat.com 
  To: Michael Pasternak mpast...@redhat.commailto:mpast...@redhat.com  
  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com 
  Cc: users users@ovirt.orgmailto:users@ovirt.org  
  mailto:users@ovirt.org  mailto:users@ovirt.org , Karli Sjöberg 
  karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  
  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se , Elena 
  Dolinin edoli...@redhat.commailto:edoli...@redhat.com  
  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:30:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Users] Problems using the PythonSDK
 
  Hi,
 
  We have several tests like:
  Add VM permission to user, that are using ART's 
  art/rhevm_api/tests_lib/low_level/mla.py addPermitsToUser function.
  This is generic function but it shouldn't be hard to prepare SDK code 
  with the same functionality.
 
  Thanks
  Ilia
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Pasternak 
  mpast...@redhat.commailto:mpast...@redhat.com  
  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com  mailto:mpast...@redhat.com 
  To: Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.semailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  
  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se  mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se , Elena 
  Dolinin edoli...@redhat.commailto:edoli...@redhat.com  
  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com  mailto:edoli...@redhat.com 

Re: [Users] Fedora upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2

2013-06-24 Thread Alex Lourie



On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se 
wrote:

sön 2013-06-23 klockan 09:38 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: Hi Karli


I've written up all we know at [1], please try to follow it (if you 
haven't yet) and let us know how it goes. If anything goes wrong, we 
will look for the ways to resolve it.


 
Hi Alex!


Awesome job, I´m going to test this right away and let you know how 
it goes. Wish me luck;)




Good luck! May the force be with you.

Alex.



/Karli



Alex.

[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.1_to_3.2_upgrade

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alex Lourie alou...@redhat.com 
wrote:

 Hi Karli
 
 I am reviewing all the actions again, and hopefully will have 
 something 
 documented on Sunday.
 
 Alex.
 
 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karli Sjöberg 
 karli.sjob...@slu.se 
 wrote:
  tis 2013-06-18 klockan 10:06 +0300 skrev Moran Goldboim: On 
  06/17/2013 02:51 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
  
  
   mån 2013-06-17 klockan 10:11 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: On 
Fri, 
  Jun 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg karli.sjob...@slu.se 
  wrote:

   Hi!
   
  
  Hi Karli,
  
   
   More than two months have passed without any notices or 
 updates 
  on 
   this issue, and looking at the bugreport absolutely nothing 
 has 
  been 
   done since then. What´s confusing me is that the release 
  management 
   for oVirt 3.2 has this clearly printed:

   MUST: Upgrade from previous release
   
   And you all seem too busy with getting the next release out 
of 
  the 
   door before fixing the current... What gives? Don´t you 
care 
  about 
   early adopters?
   
  
  I apologise that this issue wasn't taken care of yet. It is 
 clear 
  that 
  the priorities of developers shifted towards work on features 
in 
  3.3 
  release, which feature freeze is happening in about 2 weeks, 
so 
  you can 
  understand the time pressure they all have. There's no need 
to 
 be 
  angry 
  about that. It is an open source project and as resources for 
 the 
  development are limited, we're trying to do our best to cover 
as 
  much 
  issues as possible. This can lead to situations as this 
issue, 
  which 
  may be left behind for some time.
  
   
  I´m not angry, as I stated before, I´m more confused, and 
maybe 
 a 
  little disappointed that important(in my opinion) pieces of a 
  projects continuum have been ignored like that. I´m having a 
 hard 
  time understanding the reasoning behind the priorities that 
have 
  made this issue appear. In my mind, making sure that users of 
any 
  project are able to follow between minor upgrades is a given, 
 with 
  a schedule like; 1) Feature freeze, 2) Fix release blockers 
  (upgrading being one of them), 3) Release, in that order. Now 
  what´s happening is that you are kind of hoping to drag this 
out 
  until the problem goes away by itself when you decide it´s 
time 
 to 
  stop supporting 3.1.
  
  That said, the process for upgrading the oVirt 3.1 on Fedora 
17 
 to 
  oVirt 3.2 on Fedora 18 is complex and non-trivial, that's why 
it 
  is 
  taking time to resolve all the issues that come up in the 
 process.
  
  If this matter is not extremely urgent, we are currently 
working 
  on a 
  tool that may make this upgrade easier, albeit, maybe, not 
  completely 
  automatic.
  
  On the other hand, if this is a completely and utterly 
urgent, 
 we 
  may 
  try to guide you through possible manual attempts to perform 
the 
  upgrade. Mind though, that they weren't thoroughly tested, 
and 
 not 
  promised to go smoothly or even work, and we may have to 
think 
  about 
  possible alternative solutions on the go.
  
   
  Straight answer: Am I ever going to be able to upgrade from 
3.1 
 to 
  3.2?
  
  My concern (fear) is about being left behind, abandoned. It 
makes 
  me feel non-important. Just like any admin, the work put down 
to 
  make Templates, to set up quotas, create VMPools, a dozen of 
  guests. And then have to export everything (nullifying the 
idea 
 of 
  Thin Provisioning), redo every Role, reset every permission, 
  quota, and so on, isn´t (in my opinion) viable in the long 
run 
 for 
  oVirt as a project to demand. That´s why I had the notion 
that 
  upgrading surely had to be a high priority. Was I wrong about 
 that?
  
   
  upgrade actually was high priority task, but due to lots of 
 platform 
  (fedora 18) changes, it became a huge operation to support it 
 (which 
  comes on top new features/bugs/support etc.).
  in addition we have noticed that the interest from the 
community 
  regarding it, is very limited.
  
  from where i see i we have couple of options:
  -if there is enough interest from the community we can give it 
  another go (though i think most of it moved long ago to oVirt 
3.2)
  
   
  You certainly have my interest at least;)
  
  -we can help individuals by making a migration (3.1-3.2) 
document 
  on fedora base systems- we'll probably need your assistance on 
  testing side here
  
   
  A 

Re: [Users] Cannot connect to VM via browser if engine was not in /etc/hosts

2013-06-24 Thread David Jaša
Hi,

So you're connecting via User Portal but then it doesn't work? If it
doesn't, either you hit a bug or you've tweaked some value that affects
things...

In general, TLS shouldn't pose a problem because:
1) ovirt sets up its own CA that issues certificates for the hosts
2) the CA certificate and respective host certificate subject are passed to the 
client
3) the client can verify the host using these information even in cases when 
connection IP/FQDN doesn't match CN in subject of server certificate

The only condition that indeed breaks it should be display network
address override _when migrating the VM_ (because then the connection
data are passed via the host and libvirt doesn't allow to pass the
arbitrary IP/FQDN yet)

David

PS: Itamar, advice to disable SSL/TLS is IMO bad, bad thing. ;)


Itamar Heim píše v Po 24. 06. 2013 v 08:55 +0300:
 On 06/24/2013 03:10 AM, lofyer wrote:
  于 2013/6/24 1:47, Itamar Heim 写道:
  On 06/06/2013 11:51 AM, lof yer wrote:
  I connect https://192.168.1.111 and connect to the VM, then the
  remote-viewer shows up, but failed to show the VM desktop.
  Is it the https problem?
  Can I connect to the VM without modify /etc/hosts?
 
 
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  was this resolved? sounds like a certificate/dns issue?
  Yes, it's certificate/dns problem.
  But how can I connect via IP instead of FQDN without https?
 
 i guess it depends if you can tell spice client to not validate the ssl 
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[Users] use case information

2013-06-24 Thread Theron Conrey
Hi Everyone!

If you made it to Red Hat Summit I hope you had a moment to stop by the oVirt 
booth in the developer lounge and say Hello!  It was a great show and we had a 
lot of interest in oVirt from attendees.  It was great working with Mike and 
Einav at the booth and I think it was a great show!

One of the ideas coming out of summit was a user showcase page on the oVirt 
website with a list or some additional information about deployments of oVirt 
in the wild.  We've got some of the usual suspects in mind but we want to hear 
from more of you!

Is your organization using oVirt?
How many VMs are being managed?
How many KVM hosts are deployed?

Let us know!

Thanks,

-theron
 
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Re: [Users] NetApp plugin/package. Is this available or planned ?

2013-06-24 Thread Mike Burns

On 06/19/2013 06:37 AM, Matt . wrote:

Hi All,

If I'm right I remember from the past that there was an ovirt-netapp
package available, but I'm not sure. At the moment it's not in the repo,
at least not 3.3

What is the status of this package/plugin ? I'm able to test this on a
cluster and would like to help here if possible.

I hope it's there, or at least somewhere.

Thanks,

Matt


Hi Jon,

Any info you can share on this?

Mike



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Re: [Users] NetApp plugin/package. Is this available or planned ?

2013-06-24 Thread Itamar Heim

On 06/24/2013 06:45 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

On 06/19/2013 06:37 AM, Matt . wrote:

Hi All,

If I'm right I remember from the past that there was an ovirt-netapp
package available, but I'm not sure. At the moment it's not in the repo,
at least not 3.3

What is the status of this package/plugin ? I'm able to test this on a
cluster and would like to help here if possible.

I hope it's there, or at least somewhere.

Thanks,

Matt


Hi Jon,

Any info you can share on this?


http://captainkvm.com/2013/06/virtual-storage-console-for-rhev/

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Re: [Users] Fedora upgrading from 3.1 to 3.2

2013-06-24 Thread Moran Goldboim

On 06/23/2013 10:08 PM, Alfred Angelov wrote:

Hey,

This might sounds like a foolish question, but from the link you 
mentioned:


oVirt 3.1 was released as Fedora 17 package while 3.2 is targeted 
Fedora 18. Due to the nature of this upgrade, we DO NOT recommend it, 
users are advised to do a 3.2 clean installation, and to import all 
VM's and template into the new installation. 


Is there anything special I would have to do to import all the VMs 
(around 40) from my ovirt 3.1.0-2 to another ovirt (which runs 3.2.2) ?


you should:
-create and attach an export domain to the relevant datacenter on your 
3.1 system

-export the vms you need to the export domain
-disconnect the export domain
-import the domain on your 3.2.2 system (from storage tab)
-import the vms to the relevant datacenter



Mvh, Alfred Angelov

On 06/23/2013 11:35 AM, Alex Lourie wrote:

Hi Karli

I've written up all we know at [1], please try to follow it (if you 
haven't yet) and let us know how it goes. If anything goes wrong, we 
will look for the ways to resolve it.


Alex.

[1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.1_to_3.2_upgrade

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alex Lourie alou...@redhat.com wrote:

Hi Karli

I am reviewing all the actions again, and hopefully will have 
something documented on Sunday.


Alex.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Karli Sjöberg 
karli.sjob...@slu.se wrote:
 tis 2013-06-18 klockan 10:06 +0300 skrev Moran Goldboim: On  
06/17/2013 02:51 PM, Karli Sjöberg wrote:
mån 2013-06-17 klockan 10:11 +0003 skrev Alex Lourie: On 
Fri,  Jun 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Karli Sjöberg 
karli.sjob...@slu.se  wrote:

  Hi!
Hi Karli,
 More than two months have passed without any 
notices or updates  on   this issue, and looking at the 
bugreport absolutely nothing has  been   done since then. 
What´s confusing me is that the release  management   for 
oVirt 3.2 has this clearly printed:

  MUST: Upgrade from previous release
And you all seem too busy with getting the next 
release out of  the   door before fixing the current... 
What gives? Don´t you care  about   early adopters?
I apologise that this issue wasn't taken care of 
yet. It is clear  that  the priorities of developers shifted 
towards work on features in  3.3  release, which feature 
freeze is happening in about 2 weeks, so  you can  
understand the time pressure they all have. There's no need to be 
 angry  about that. It is an open source project and as 
resources for the  development are limited, we're trying to do 
our best to cover as  much  issues as possible. This can 
lead to situations as this issue,  which  may be left behind 
for some time.
I´m not angry, as I stated before, I´m more confused, 
and maybe a  little disappointed that important(in my opinion) 
pieces of a  projects continuum have been ignored like that. I´m 
having a hard  time understanding the reasoning behind the 
priorities that have  made this issue appear. In my mind, making 
sure that users of any  project are able to follow between minor 
upgrades is a given, with  a schedule like; 1) Feature freeze, 2) 
Fix release blockers  (upgrading being one of them), 3) Release, 
in that order. Now  what´s happening is that you are kind of 
hoping to drag this out  until the problem goes away by itself 
when you decide it´s time to  stop supporting 3.1.
  That said, the process for upgrading the oVirt 3.1 on 
Fedora 17 to  oVirt 3.2 on Fedora 18 is complex and non-trivial, 
that's why it  is  taking time to resolve all the issues 
that come up in the process.
  If this matter is not extremely urgent, we are currently 
working  on a  tool that may make this upgrade easier, 
albeit, maybe, not  completely  automatic.
  On the other hand, if this is a completely and utterly 
urgent, we  may  try to guide you through possible manual 
attempts to perform the  upgrade. Mind though, that they weren't 
thoroughly tested, and not  promised to go smoothly or even 
work, and we may have to think  about  possible alternative 
solutions on the go.
Straight answer: Am I ever going to be able to upgrade 
from 3.1 to  3.2?
  My concern (fear) is about being left behind, abandoned. It 
makes  me feel non-important. Just like any admin, the work put 
down to  make Templates, to set up quotas, create VMPools, a 
dozen of  guests. And then have to export everything (nullifying 
the idea of  Thin Provisioning), redo every Role, reset every 
permission,  quota, and so on, isn´t (in my opinion) viable in 
the long run for  oVirt as a project to demand. That´s why I had 
the notion that  upgrading surely had to be a high priority. Was 
I wrong about that?
upgrade actually was high priority task, but due to lots 
of platform  (fedora 18) changes, it became a huge operation to 
support it (which  comes on top new features/bugs/support etc.).
 in addition we have noticed that the interest from the community 
 regarding it, is very limited.

  from where i see i we have couple of 

[Users] Using python sdk to find the VMs running on a host.

2013-06-24 Thread Deepthi Dharwar
Hi,

I am using the ovirt-python-sdk to figure out if the host is idle or
not. The way to determine if the host is idle at a given instant is
finding out the number of VMs running on it. If the number of VMs = 0
implies host is idle.

I was exploring the python sdk to figure out Host-VMs mapping i.e What
are the VMs running on the different host.

Looks like the only way to find this, is to query each VM in /api/vms
list to get the host on which it is running.

Is this the right way ? Is there no direct query or REST API to list
the VMs running on a given host at that instant.

I was looking to get the data center hierarchy structure.
Number_of_datacenters
  |
  V
clusters in each data center
  |
  V
Hosts in each cluster
  |
  V
 VMs on each host.

This kind of mapping as seen on the GUI. Is there any way to obtain
the same from the ovirt-python-sdk ?

With this information, this would help me write scripts to turn-off my
hosts if idle automatically and power them on as required.

Regards,
Deepthi



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