Re: [Users] Ovirt Support life (timeframe) - upgrade path ?
- Original Message - From: Gary Scarborough virtually...@gmail.com To: users@ovirt.org Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:56:04 PM Subject: Re: [Users] Ovirt Support life (timeframe) - upgrade path ? On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Perry Myers pmy...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/10/2012 08:03 AM, Mike Burns wrote: I answered with my limited knowledge on IRC, but I'll answer here too for those who didn't see the IRC questions. On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 03:48 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On 02/10/2012 03:42 AM, Morgan Cox wrote: Hi. As Fedora the default system that Ovirt is packaged for does this mean that Ovirt will have the same (short) support life of 18 months ? I ask as that is a bit short to have in enterprise .. There is always RHEV if you want longer support... Right, I think the first question we should be asking here is... Morgan, what do you mean specifically by support? Since it's an upstream project, typically each new release would obviate the previous one, and new features would only go into the latest version. One valid question is whether or not bugfixes will only go into the latest version, or if the immediate prior version will get updates. (For example, bugfixes are backported to Fedora 15 even though Fedora 16 is out) Also, the term support from an upstream perspective is much different than from a product perspective. Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users So on a follow up question: Is any consideration being given to RHEL as far as compatibility? Will Ovirt features be held back if adding them would be impossible to do with RHEL? Like a feature requiring a major update to a RHEL package? Or is it up to the RHEV developers to sort it all out for their needs? It won't be long before Fedora outpaces RHEL on version levels, depending on the time frame for RHEL 7. RHEL 5 had a very long life span and was quite dated by the time RHEL 6 shipped. What does held back mean? That's like asking if Fedora will be held back because of RHEL. Upstream is upstream - it's where new features are developed sometimes they can be backported, other times it's not possible and means waiting for a major release. -- Gary Scarborough IST Lab Manager Rochester Institute of Technology Rochester NY ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
[Users] Ovirt Support life (timeframe) - upgrade path ?
Hi. As Fedora the default system that Ovirt is packaged for does this mean that Ovirt will have the same (short) support life of 18 months ? I ask as that is a bit short to have in enterprise .. I.e if I install Ovirt in Fedora 16 will support life run out when Fedora 16 runs out or will I be able to upgrade Ovirt/Fedora to the next version? Are there going packages for Centos ? If so will they be supported longer ? If this information is out there already can you point me to the right direction ? Regards ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Support life (timeframe) - upgrade path ?
I answered with my limited knowledge on IRC, but I'll answer here too for those who didn't see the IRC questions. On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 03:48 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On 02/10/2012 03:42 AM, Morgan Cox wrote: Hi. As Fedora the default system that Ovirt is packaged for does this mean that Ovirt will have the same (short) support life of 18 months ? I ask as that is a bit short to have in enterprise .. There is always RHEV if you want longer support... Hi Morgan, I don't have answers to the rest of your question, but just wanted to point out that each release of Fedora is maintained for approximately 13 months, rather than 18. (The entire life of a release would be around 18-19 months, though, if you're including the development period.) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle Just wanted to clear up any confusion or inconsistencies :) Cheers, Robyn I.e if I install Ovirt in Fedora 16 will support life run out when Fedora 16 runs out or will I be able to upgrade Ovirt/Fedora to the next version? It's an upstream project, so it's really up to the community in what they want to support. I would expect that each release would be targeted at the current versions of the various distros. Upgrades should work from version to version (though that code doesn't exist yet, AFAIK). Are there going packages for Centos ? If so will they be supported longer ? Again, since it's an open source project, there is no official support. I don't believe there has been any talk about lifecycle yet since we just sent out our first release yesterday. If this information is out there already can you point me to the right direction ? No where that I've seen. Mike Regards ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [Users] Ovirt Support life (timeframe) - upgrade path ?
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Perry Myers pmy...@redhat.com wrote: On 02/10/2012 08:03 AM, Mike Burns wrote: I answered with my limited knowledge on IRC, but I'll answer here too for those who didn't see the IRC questions. On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 03:48 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On 02/10/2012 03:42 AM, Morgan Cox wrote: Hi. As Fedora the default system that Ovirt is packaged for does this mean that Ovirt will have the same (short) support life of 18 months ? I ask as that is a bit short to have in enterprise .. There is always RHEV if you want longer support... Right, I think the first question we should be asking here is... Morgan, what do you mean specifically by support? Since it's an upstream project, typically each new release would obviate the previous one, and new features would only go into the latest version. One valid question is whether or not bugfixes will only go into the latest version, or if the immediate prior version will get updates. (For example, bugfixes are backported to Fedora 15 even though Fedora 16 is out) Also, the term support from an upstream perspective is much different than from a product perspective. Perry ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users So on a follow up question: Is any consideration being given to RHEL as far as compatibility? Will Ovirt features be held back if adding them would be impossible to do with RHEL? Like a feature requiring a major update to a RHEL package? Or is it up to the RHEV developers to sort it all out for their needs? It won't be long before Fedora outpaces RHEL on version levels, depending on the time frame for RHEL 7. RHEL 5 had a very long life span and was quite dated by the time RHEL 6 shipped. -- Gary Scarborough IST Lab Manager Rochester Institute of Technology Rochester NY ___ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
