Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-09 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On Apr 8, 2014, at 15:46 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

 That's a nice theory you've got there... :) I'd think a little script
 management would go a long way until you have _every_ possible use
 case in the system. :)  

it's not about every possible use case, it's about keeping the code working. 
Letting hooks go wild and unmaintained is not a good idea…
There were discussions on mailing list about having a nice interface in UI for 
hooks  but as far as I remember it was always turned down
Though I personally would welcome at least a monitoring of deployed hooks 
somewhere in the UI…

Thanks,
michal

 As a developer I find at some point I always
 get talked into adding that extra bit of flexibility even though no
 user should ever need it. They always find something I never thought
 of.
 
 btw, do I put feature requests in bugzilla, or is there some other place?
 
 Thanks for all of the help.
 
 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice
 feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts.
 oh well, thanks for the help.
 
 you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the 
 functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively...well, 
 that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:)
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 
 On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
 host by hand?
 
 Yes
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
 asegu...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console
 
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.
 
 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. 
 You need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a 
 base
 for what you're trying to do...
 
 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you 
 want.
 
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.
 
 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
 
 but should be 3.4.1
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get 
 there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.
 
 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-09 Thread Itamar Heim

On 04/09/2014 09:47 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:


On Apr 8, 2014, at 15:46 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:


That's a nice theory you've got there... :) I'd think a little script
management would go a long way until you have _every_ possible use
case in the system. :)


it's not about every possible use case, it's about keeping the code working. 
Letting hooks go wild and unmaintained is not a good idea…
There were discussions on mailing list about having a nice interface in UI for 
hooks  but as far as I remember it was always turned down
Though I personally would welcome at least a monitoring of deployed hooks 
somewhere in the UI…


the ui does show which hooks are deployed on each host?

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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-08 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

 that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice
 feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts.
 oh well, thanks for the help.

you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the 
functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively…well, 
that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:)

Thanks,
michal

 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 
 On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
 host by hand?
 
 Yes
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
 asegu...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console
 
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.
 
 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You 
 need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a 
 base
 for what you're trying to do...
 
 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you 
 want.
 
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.
 
 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
 
 but should be 3.4.1
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.
 
 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-08 Thread Jeremiah Jahn
That's a nice theory you've got there... :) I'd think a little script
management would go a long way until you have _every_ possible use
case in the system. :)  As a developer I find at some point I always
get talked into adding that extra bit of flexibility even though no
user should ever need it. They always find something I never thought
of.

btw, do I put feature requests in bugzilla, or is there some other place?

Thanks for all of the help.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice
 feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts.
 oh well, thanks for the help.

 you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the 
 functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively...well, 
 that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:)

 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:


 On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
 host by hand?

 Yes


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
 asegu...@redhat.com wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console


 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.

 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You 
 need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a 
 base
 for what you're trying to do...

 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you 
 want.


 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.

 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D

 but should be 3.4.1

 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get 
 there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.

 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

 Thanks,
 michal

 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/

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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-08 Thread Itamar Heim

On 04/08/2014 04:46 PM, Jeremiah Jahn wrote:

That's a nice theory you've got there... :) I'd think a little script
management would go a long way until you have _every_ possible use
case in the system. :)  As a developer I find at some point I always
get talked into adding that extra bit of flexibility even though no
user should ever need it. They always find something I never thought
of.


we're always torn by adding such features to ovirt, or saying just use 
something like foreman/puppet to distribute rpms to hosts.




btw, do I put feature requests in bugzilla, or is there some other place?


in bugzilla.




Thanks for all of the help.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:


On Apr 7, 2014, at 23:04 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:


that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice
feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts.
oh well, thanks for the help.


you're not supposed to need a hook under normal circumstances, when the 
functionality is useful enough it should be built into vdsm natively...well, 
that's in progress for this one for 3.4.1:)

Thanks,
michal



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:




On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
host by hand?


Yes



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
asegu...@redhat.com wrote:



- Original Message -

From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console


On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
wrote:


thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
great.


It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the backend.
You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need
to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base
for what you're trying to do...


Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want.



Thanks,
michal



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:


On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
wrote:


So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
every developers favorite question.


one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D

but should be 3.4.1

Thanks,
michal



On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:


On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
wrote:


I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
either.  thanks for any help.


Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

Thanks,
michal

[1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/


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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.

Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

Thanks,
michal

[1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/

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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Jahn
So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
every developers favorite question.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.

 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

 Thanks,
 michal

 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/

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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.

one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough….:-D

….but should be 3.4.1

Thanks,
michal

 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.
 
 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Jahn
thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
great.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.

 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D

 but should be 3.4.1

 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.

 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

 Thanks,
 michal

 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/

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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Skrivanek

On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:

 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.

It's a bit more complicated than that….there's no XML stored in the backend. 
You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need 
to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see 
http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base for 
what you're trying to do...

Thanks,
michal

 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.
 
 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
 
 but should be 3.4.1
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:
 
 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.
 
 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Antoni Segura Puimedon


- Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console
 
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
  thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
  virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
  edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
  obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
  a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
  try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
  that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
  wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
  go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
  device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
  pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
  great.
 
 It's a bit more complicated than that….there's no XML stored in the backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base
 for what you're trying to do...

Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want.

 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
  
  On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
  michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
  
  On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
  wrote:
  
  So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
  what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
  every developers favorite question.
  
  one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
  
  but should be 3.4.1
  
  Thanks,
  michal
  
  
  On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
  michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
  
  On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
  wrote:
  
  I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
  Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
  If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
  either.  thanks for any help.
  
  Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
  
  Thanks,
  michal
  
  [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
  
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Jahn
And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
host by hand?

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
asegu...@redhat.com wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console


 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

  thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
  virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
  edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
  obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
  a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
  try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
  that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
  wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
  go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
  device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
  pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
  great.

 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base
 for what you're trying to do...

 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want.


 Thanks,
 michal

 
  On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
  michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
  wrote:
 
  So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
  what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
  every developers favorite question.
 
  one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
 
  but should be 3.4.1
 
  Thanks,
  michal
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
  michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
  wrote:
 
  I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
  Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
  If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
  either.  thanks for any help.
 
  Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
  Thanks,
  michal
 
  [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Michal Skrivanek


 On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com wrote:
 
 And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
 host by hand?

Yes

 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
 asegu...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console
 
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.
 
 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You 
 need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base
 for what you're trying to do...
 
 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want.
 
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.
 
 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D
 
 but should be 3.4.1
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:
 
 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.
 
 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.
 
 Thanks,
 michal
 
 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/
 
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Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console

2014-04-07 Thread Jeremiah Jahn
that seems silly. Seems like the kinda thing that would be a nice
feature to have in the webadmin stuff. esp if you have 100's of hosts.
 oh well, thanks for the help.

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michal Skrivanek
michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:


 On 07 Apr 2014, at 22:25, Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com 
 wrote:

 And just to verify... All hooking scripts have to be placed on each
 host by hand?

 Yes


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon
 asegu...@redhat.com wrote:


 - Original Message -
 From: Michal Skrivanek michal.skriva...@redhat.com
 To: Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 Cc: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:31:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Users] how do you connect to a host's serial console


 On Apr 7, 2014, at 16:23 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 thx, So dumb question at this point. I'm in the process of moving from
 virt-manager to ovirt.  virsh has an edit domain function, or I can
 edit the xml by hand. I'm able to locate the xml on the host, but
 obviously if I edit it by hand it will be replaced by vdsm. I'm having
 a hell of a time trying to find the xml on the engine, so that I can
 try modifying the xml to add a serial console.  Based on that code
 that's all that's really going on with that patch. So I'd think I can
 wing it by modifying the db or xml directly.  Just not sure where to
 go to do so.  I'm guessing I could go into vm_device and replace
 device='virtio-serial' with 'serial'  but that seems to easy. Any
 pointers you've got on how the xml is stored or produced would be
 great.

 It's a bit more complicated than thatthere's no XML stored in the 
 backend.
 You'd be better off applying the patch over and compile yourself:)
 The supported way of how to amend the libvirt XML is via VDSM hooks. You 
 need
 to intercept the created XML and add whatever is needed, see
 http://www.ovirt.org/VDSM-Hooks, some of the examples can be used as a base
 for what you're trying to do...

 Yup, before_vm_start before_vm_migrate should allow you to do what you want.


 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 7, 2014, at 15:57 , Jeremiah Jahn jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 So do you think this is a 3.5 thing or a 3.4.1 thing? It's exactly
 what I need, just curious how long I'll have to wait. I know this is
 every developers favorite question.

 one needs to nag Vinzenz frequently enough:-D

 but should be 3.4.1

 Thanks,
 michal


 On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michal Skrivanek
 michal.skriva...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Apr 6, 2014, at 21:50 , Jeremiah Jahn 
 jerem...@goodinassociates.com
 wrote:

 I just can't seem to figure this out.  I've enabled 'VirtIO Console
 Device' yet I can't seem to find anyplace that will let me get there.
 If I go to virsh on the host and try ttyconsoe that doesn't  work
 either.  thanks for any help.

 Does not work. Pending this[1] patch to get in.

 Thanks,
 michal

 [1] http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25979/

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