Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-21 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/21/2014 12:59 AM, Blaster wrote:


One of the issues I have with virt-v2v is that it requires an import
storage domain on your ovirt server to import the image to, then you
need to copy that image again into your vm datastore. Lots of data
moving around slow gigabit networks.



this could probably be improved with the "import data domain" planned 
now (as it will allow to detect orphan disks/vm's and register them).

http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/arch/2014-February/002004.html
http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/arch/2014-February/001943.html


oVirt still needs a way to easily add a vm disk image w/o having to go
through the silly import method.

On 2/19/2014 7:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then
ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put
effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a
tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your
VMware
non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such
a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris
e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go
fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-20 Thread Blaster


One of the issues I have with virt-v2v is that it requires an import 
storage domain on your ovirt server to import the image to, then you 
need to copy that image again into your vm datastore. Lots of data 
moving around slow gigabit networks.


oVirt still needs a way to easily add a vm disk image w/o having to go 
through the silly import method.


On 2/19/2014 7:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then
ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put 
effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a 
tool already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.


-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
VMware

non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such
a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris
e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go 
fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-20 Thread Blaster


I have used this method successfully several times, but the problem is, 
this only converts the format of the image, it doesn't do any tweaks to 
the actual image needed to boot it in the new environment.  Windows for 
example, is likely to blue screen because it's not very good at 
detecting boot disk controller changes.


This is what the merge-ide script does, it relaxes the Windows checks on 
boot for new disk controllers.  Search for my post about how I converted 
my Windows guest from ESX to ovirt.



On 2/19/2014 9:23 PM, Lei Cui wrote:

Or used #qemu-img convert es.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Lei Cui" 
To: "Maurice James" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Hi, Maurice,
Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) 
format?
Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Maurice James" 
To: "Bob Doolittle" , "Ted Miller" , 
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX
image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort
into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already
available to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your
VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this
such a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5.
I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to
get some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today
(in the bug as well).

thanks,
 Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go
fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-20 Thread Ted Miller

On 2/19/2014 8:54 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then
ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

NO!!!

You apparently have not done this, only talk about it?  The last step (ESX -> 
RHEV using virt-v2v) doesn't work.  It had problems with some images, and 
they pulled it completely from current versions of virt-v2v.  See 
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html


Ted Miller

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort 
into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already 
available to convert to one and they can focus on it.


-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware
non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such
a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris
e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/20/2014 05:34 AM, Maurice James wrote:

Trying it out now

-Original Message-
From: Lei Cui [mailto:l...@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:23 PM
To: Maurice James
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Or used #qemu-img convert es.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Lei Cui" 
To: "Maurice James" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Hi, Maurice,
Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) 
format?
Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Maurice James" 
To: "Bob Doolittle" , "Ted Miller" , 
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image 
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image 
on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into 
supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available 
to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your
VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this
such a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5.
I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to
get some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today
(in the bug as well).

thanks,
 Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go
fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Maurice James
Trying it out now

-Original Message-
From: Lei Cui [mailto:l...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 10:23 PM
To: Maurice James
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Or used #qemu-img convert es.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Lei Cui" 
To: "Maurice James" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Hi, Maurice,
Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) 
format? 
Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Maurice James" 
To: "Bob Doolittle" , "Ted Miller" , 
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image 
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX image 
on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort into 
supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already available 
to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
> My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
> VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
> Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
>
> -Bob
>
> On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with 
>> WONTFIX
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this 
>> such a touchy issue?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ted Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
>> To: users@ovirt.org
>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
>>>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>>>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>> According to this
>>>>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
>>>>> It does not do it
>>>> please review:
>>>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
>>>> s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. 
>>>>>> I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to 
>>>>>> get some eyes on it here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>
>>>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today 
>>>&

Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Lei Cui
Or used #qemu-img convert es.vmdk imagexxx.img to finish the conversion

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Lei Cui" 
To: "Maurice James" 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Hi, Maurice, 
Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) 
format? 
Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Maurice James" 
To: "Bob Doolittle" , "Ted Miller" , 
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX
image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort
into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already
available to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
> My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
> VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
> Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
>
> -Bob
>
> On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with 
>> WONTFIX
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this 
>> such a touchy issue?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ted Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
>> To: users@ovirt.org
>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
>>>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>>>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>> According to this 
>>>>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
>>>>> It does not do it
>>>> please review:
>>>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
>>>> s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. 
>>>>>> I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to 
>>>>>> get some eyes on it here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>
>>>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today 
>>>>> (in the bug as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Itamar
>>>>>
>>> iirc, you need an ESX currently.
>> Some of us are stuc

Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Lei Cui
Hi, Maurice, 
Have you tried virt-convert to convert vmx image to virt-image(raw or qcow2) 
format? 
Which support off-line conversion without a running ESX server

-Lei

- Original Message -
From: "Maurice James" 
To: "Bob Doolittle" , "Ted Miller" , 
users@ovirt.org
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:59:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX
image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort
into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already
available to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
> My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
> VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
> Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
>
> -Bob
>
> On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with 
>> WONTFIX
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this 
>> such a touchy issue?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ted Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
>> To: users@ovirt.org
>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
>>>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>>>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>> According to this 
>>>>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
>>>>> It does not do it
>>>> please review:
>>>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
>>>> s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. 
>>>>>> I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to 
>>>>>> get some eyes on it here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>
>>>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today 
>>>>> (in the bug as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Itamar
>>>>>
>>> iirc, you need an ESX currently.
>> Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
>> ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying 
>> to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works 
>> fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on 
>> VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go 
>> fly a
> kite?
>> If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, 
>> I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
>>
>> Ted Miller
>> Elkhart, IN
>>
>> ___
>> Users mailing list
>> Users@ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>> ___
>> Users mailing list
>> Users@ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Maurice James
Forgive my noobness, but are you telling me that I can convert an ESX image
without the existence of a running ESX server? If someone gave me an ESX
image on a DVD or hard drive I could then use virt-v2v to convert it?

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:54 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put effort
into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool already
available to convert to one and they can focus on it.

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
> To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
> My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
> VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
> Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?
>
> -Bob
>
> On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with 
>> WONTFIX
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this 
>> such a touchy issue?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ted Miller
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
>> To: users@ovirt.org
>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
>>>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>>>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>> According to this 
>>>>> https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
>>>>> It does not do it
>>>> please review:
>>>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpri
>>>> s e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. 
>>>>>> I think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to 
>>>>>> get some eyes on it here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>>
>>>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today 
>>>>> (in the bug as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Itamar
>>>>>
>>> iirc, you need an ESX currently.
>> Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
>> ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying 
>> to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works 
>> fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on 
>> VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go 
>> fly a
> kite?
>> If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, 
>> I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
>>
>> Ted Miller
>> Elkhart, IN
>>
>> ___
>> Users mailing list
>> Users@ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>> ___
>> Users mailing list
>> Users@ovirt.org
>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Bob Doolittle

Yes.
So:

VMware non-ESX -> ESX, using VMware's tool, then
ESX -> RHEV using virt-v2v

no?

If this is viable, it's easy to understand why nobody wants to put 
effort into supporting a bevy of VMware VM formats, when there's a tool 
already available to convert to one and they can focus on it.


-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:52 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware
non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with
WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such
a touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On
Behalf Of Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris
e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.
ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying
to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works
fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on
VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go fly a

kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance,
I may bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Maurice James
I want to change it from VMware to RHEV/oVirt

-Original Message-
From: Bob Doolittle [mailto:b...@doolittle.us.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:51 PM
To: Maurice James; 'Ted Miller'; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your VMware
non-ESX VMs into ESX format.
Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with 
> WONTFIX
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such 
> a touchy issue?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On 
> Behalf Of Ted Miller
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
>
> On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
>> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
>>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>
>>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
>>>> It does not do it
>>> please review:
>>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterpris
>>> e _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>>
>>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I 
>>>>> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get 
>>>>> some eyes on it here.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>> Users mailing list
>>>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
>>>>>
>>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in 
>>>> the bug as well).
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>Itamar
>>>>
>> iirc, you need an ESX currently.
> Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.  
> ESX is not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying 
> to bring over VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works 
> fine, but there is no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on 
> VMWare Workstation or other, older products.  We just get told to go fly a
kite?
>
> If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, 
> I may bring up ESXi and stay there.
>
> Ted Miller
> Elkhart, IN
>
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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Bob Doolittle
My recollection is that VMware provides a converter to change your 
VMware non-ESX VMs into ESX format.

Do you have to buy ESX to gain access to it?

-Bob

On 02/19/2014 05:46 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a
touchy issue?

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to.
How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx
available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html
It does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise
_Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html


-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
   Itamar


iirc, you need an ESX currently.

Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.  ESX is
not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying to bring over
VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works fine, but there is
no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or
other, older products.  We just get told to go fly a kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may
bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Maurice James
I even open a feature request that they closed pretty quickly with WONTFIX
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910 . Why is this such a
touchy issue?

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From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Ted Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:28 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:
> On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. 
>> How do I do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx 
>> available to connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>
>> On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>> According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html 
>>> It does not do it
>>
>> please review:
>> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise
>> _Virtua lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html
>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
>>> To: Maurice James; 'users'
>>> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>>>
>>> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>>>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I 
>>>> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get 
>>>> some eyes on it here.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in 
>>> the bug as well).
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>   Itamar
>>>
>>
>
> iirc, you need an ESX currently.
Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.  ESX is
not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying to bring over
VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works fine, but there is
no migration path.  Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or
other, older products.  We just get told to go fly a kite?

If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may
bring up ESXi and stay there.

Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-19 Thread Ted Miller


On 2/9/2014 4:27 PM, Itamar Heim wrote:

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I
do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to
connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It
does not do it


please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua
lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html



-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
  Itamar





iirc, you need an ESX currently.
Some of us are stuck without a way to try out ovirt because of this.  ESX is 
not the only platform that people run VMWare on.  I am trying to bring over 
VMs from an old VMWare Server setup on Centos 5.  Works fine, but there is no 
migration path.  Other people may have VMs on VMWare Workstation or other, 
older products.  We just get told to go fly a kite?


If the only choice is to bring up a full-blown, working ESX instance, I may 
bring up ESXi and stay there.


Ted Miller
Elkhart, IN

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-09 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/09/2014 10:28 PM, Maurice James wrote:

The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I
do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to
connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It
does not do it


please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua
lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html



-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in
the bug as well).

thanks,
  Itamar





iirc, you need an ESX currently.

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-09 Thread Maurice James
The instructions assume that I have an ESX instance to connect to. How do I
do this with an already exported vmware image with no esx available to
connect to? I have a turnkey drupal vm in ovf format

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:24 PM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It 
> does not do it

please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtua
lization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
> To: Maurice James; 'users'
> Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion
>
> On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
>> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I 
>> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get 
>> some eyes on it here.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>>
>>
>>
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>
> can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in 
> the bug as well).
>
> thanks,
>  Itamar
>

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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-09 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/09/2014 07:02 PM, Maurice James wrote:

According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does
not do it


please review:
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.3/html-single/V2V_Guide/index.html



-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I
think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get
some eyes on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug
as well).

thanks,
 Itamar



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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-09 Thread Maurice James
According to this https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1749.html It does
not do it

-Original Message-
From: Itamar Heim [mailto:ih...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:52 AM
To: Maurice James; 'users'
Subject: Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:
> I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I 
> think that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get 
> some eyes on it here.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910
>
>
>
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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the bug
as well).

thanks,
Itamar
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Re: [Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-09 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/08/2014 04:18 PM, Maurice James wrote:

I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think
that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes
on it here.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910



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can you comment on the gaps from virt-v2v which does this today (in the 
bug as well).


thanks,
   Itamar
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[Users] vmware image conversion

2014-02-08 Thread Maurice James
I submitted an RFE to have vmware image conversion added to 3.5. I think
that is a key feature that is lacking. Im just trying to get some eyes on it
here.

 

 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062910

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