Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

2015-08-18 Thread Matthew Lagoe
Running on a 1gbps management network ive seen issues around 1000 vm’s

 

From: Patrick Russell [mailto:patrick_russ...@volusion.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 02:07 PM
To: Matthew Lagoe
Cc: Groten, Ryan; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

 

Can I ask at what scale you’re running into issues? We’ve got about 500 VM’s 
running now in a single cluster.  

 

-Patrick

 

On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Matthew Lagoe matthew.la...@subrigo.net wrote:

 

You can have different cluster policy’s at least, don’t know what other 
benefits there are however as I haven’t noticed any.

 

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Subject: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

 

We’re running into some performance problems stemming from having too many 
Hosts/VMs/Disks running from the same Datacenter/Cluster.  Because of that I’m 
looking into splitting the DC into multiple separate ones with different 
Hosts/Storage.

But I’m a little confused what the benefit of separating hosts into clusters 
achieves.  Can someone please explain what the common use cases are?  Since all 
the clusters in a DC seem to need to see the same storage, I don’t think it 
would help my situation anyway.

 

Thanks,

Ryan 

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Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

2015-08-18 Thread Groten, Ryan
We only have about 200 VMs, but we’ve run into this bug [1] because we use a 
high number of direct attach luns on our VMs.  It takes about 5 minutes to scan 
all the fibre channel luns (same issues exists with iSCSI) and used times out 
before completing (until we changed the value of vdsTimeout higher).

Also because of the way our FC storage is presented, we have about 1,400 
multipath devices presented to each host.  This contributes to really long scan 
times and I think causes some general slowness in administration side and “Bad 
Request” 500 Errors when running some storage commands from the API.  VMs 
themselves still run just fine with no noticeable performance issues though.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1217401



From: Patrick Russell [mailto:patrick_russ...@volusion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:07 PM
To: Matthew Lagoe
Cc: Groten, Ryan; users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

Can I ask at what scale you’re running into issues? We’ve got about 500 VM’s 
running now in a single cluster.

-Patrick

On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Matthew Lagoe 
matthew.la...@subrigo.netmailto:matthew.la...@subrigo.net wrote:

You can have different cluster policy’s at least, don’t know what other 
benefits there are however as I haven’t noticed any.

From: users-boun...@ovirt.orgmailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Groten, Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 01:59 PM
To: users@ovirt.orgmailto:users@ovirt.org
Subject: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

We’re running into some performance problems stemming from having too many 
Hosts/VMs/Disks running from the same Datacenter/Cluster.  Because of that I’m 
looking into splitting the DC into multiple separate ones with different 
Hosts/Storage.
But I’m a little confused what the benefit of separating hosts into clusters 
achieves.  Can someone please explain what the common use cases are?  Since all 
the clusters in a DC seem to need to see the same storage, I don’t think it 
would help my situation anyway.

Thanks,
Ryan
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Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

2015-08-18 Thread Matthew Lagoe
You can have different cluster policy's at least, don't know what other
benefits there are however as I haven't noticed any.

 

From: users-boun...@ovirt.org [mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Groten, Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 01:59 PM
To: users@ovirt.org
Subject: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

 

We're running into some performance problems stemming from having too many
Hosts/VMs/Disks running from the same Datacenter/Cluster.  Because of that
I'm looking into splitting the DC into multiple separate ones with different
Hosts/Storage.

But I'm a little confused what the benefit of separating hosts into clusters
achieves.  Can someone please explain what the common use cases are?  Since
all the clusters in a DC seem to need to see the same storage, I don't think
it would help my situation anyway.

 

Thanks,

Ryan 

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[ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

2015-08-18 Thread Groten, Ryan
We're running into some performance problems stemming from having too many 
Hosts/VMs/Disks running from the same Datacenter/Cluster.  Because of that I'm 
looking into splitting the DC into multiple separate ones with different 
Hosts/Storage.
But I'm a little confused what the benefit of separating hosts into clusters 
achieves.  Can someone please explain what the common use cases are?  Since all 
the clusters in a DC seem to need to see the same storage, I don't think it 
would help my situation anyway.

Thanks,
Ryan
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Re: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

2015-08-18 Thread Patrick Russell
Can I ask at what scale you’re running into issues? We’ve got about 500 VM’s 
running now in a single cluster.

-Patrick

On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Matthew Lagoe 
matthew.la...@subrigo.netmailto:matthew.la...@subrigo.net wrote:

You can have different cluster policy’s at least, don’t know what other 
benefits there are however as I haven’t noticed any.

From: users-boun...@ovirt.orgmailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Groten, Ryan
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 01:59 PM
To: users@ovirt.orgmailto:users@ovirt.org
Subject: [ovirt-users] Benefits of Cluster separation

We’re running into some performance problems stemming from having too many 
Hosts/VMs/Disks running from the same Datacenter/Cluster.  Because of that I’m 
looking into splitting the DC into multiple separate ones with different 
Hosts/Storage.
But I’m a little confused what the benefit of separating hosts into clusters 
achieves.  Can someone please explain what the common use cases are?  Since all 
the clusters in a DC seem to need to see the same storage, I don’t think it 
would help my situation anyway.

Thanks,
Ryan
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