Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-04 Thread Punit Dambiwal
Hi,

I have checked and found that ovirt support two type of disk formats (RAW 
QCOW2)...but bydefault it create the VM disk with RAW formati try but
didn't find any way to change this format to qcow2 ??

How i can change the default vm disk from RAW to QCOW2 ??

I am using the below :-
Ovirt :- 3.4.3
Glusterfs :- 3.5

Thanks,
Punit


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 09/03/2014 06:45 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:



 Am 03.09.2014 17:37, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:

 I remember to have asked for something like that in the past on this list
 and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
 bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open account 

 see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211

 Can we ask here a similar workflow?
 Thanks in advance,


 Well yeah, that works somehow, but why can't I open
 a bug on these docs? they are available to the public
 anyway.

 Everybody can investigate them for errors, but I need
 a red hat guy to make a report if I find an error? really?

 I think I just won't report any doc bugs anymore, because
 red hat doesn't seem to want that.


 for now, for lack of a better option, I suggest opening them on ovirt docs.

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-04 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/05/2014 04:20 AM, Punit Dambiwal wrote:

Hi,

I have checked and found that ovirt support two type of disk formats
(RAW  QCOW2)...but bydefault it create the VM disk with RAW formati
try but didn't find any way to change this format to qcow2 ??


since file system are usually sparse by default, we use RAW which 
provides better performance than COW.




How i can change the default vm disk from RAW to QCOW2 ??


i thought I saw samples on how to do this via the API/CLI earlier in the 
thread:

http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2014-September/027147.html



I am using the below :-
Ovirt :- 3.4.3
Glusterfs :- 3.5

Thanks,
Punit


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com
mailto:ih...@redhat.com wrote:

On 09/03/2014 06:45 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:



Am 03.09.2014 17:37, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:

I remember to have asked for something like that in the past
on this list
and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com
mailto:thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open
account 

see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/__show_bug.cgi?id=954211
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211

Can we ask here a similar workflow?
Thanks in advance,


Well yeah, that works somehow, but why can't I open
a bug on these docs? they are available to the public
anyway.

Everybody can investigate them for errors, but I need
a red hat guy to make a report if I find an error? really?

I think I just won't report any doc bugs anymore, because
red hat doesn't seem to want that.


for now, for lack of a better option, I suggest opening them on
ovirt docs.

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/03/2014 08:46 AM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

Hi,
Firstly, I don't want make an import domain. I just want to make a vm with same 
parameters (disk size,ram, etc) then replace the disk images with our original 
disks.


on which storage type (iscsi or nfs)?



Tibor



- Eredeti üzenet -

On 09/02/2014 06:21 PM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

Hi,

I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like
to copy to ovirt them.
Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in
any case?
I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a
long time.

Thanks in advance

Tibor



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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Demeter Tibor
On shared glusterfs.



Tibor


- Eredeti üzenet -
 On 09/03/2014 08:46 AM, Demeter Tibor wrote:
  Hi,
  Firstly, I don't want make an import domain. I just want to make a vm with
  same parameters (disk size,ram, etc) then replace the disk images with our
  original disks.
 
 on which storage type (iscsi or nfs)?
 
 
  Tibor
 
 
 
  - Eredeti üzenet -
  On 09/02/2014 06:21 PM, Demeter Tibor wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like
  to copy to ovirt them.
  Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in
  any case?
  I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a
  long time.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Tibor
 
 
 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

On shared glusterfs.



Allon/Federico - I remember on NFS, qcow2 isn't used by default, since 
raw is sparse by default.

(but i don't remember if it won't work, or just not enabled by default).

can one create a qcow2 disk for a VM with gluster storage?




Tibor


- Eredeti üzenet -

On 09/03/2014 08:46 AM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

Hi,
Firstly, I don't want make an import domain. I just want to make a vm with
same parameters (disk size,ram, etc) then replace the disk images with our
original disks.


on which storage type (iscsi or nfs)?



Tibor



- Eredeti üzenet -

On 09/02/2014 06:21 PM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

Hi,

I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like
to copy to ovirt them.
Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in
any case?
I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a
long time.

Thanks in advance

Tibor



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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Sven Kieske
Am 03.09.2014 12:50, schrieb Itamar Heim:
 Allon/Federico - I remember on NFS, qcow2 isn't used by default, since
 raw is sparse by default.
 (but i don't remember if it won't work, or just not enabled by default).
 
 can one create a qcow2 disk for a VM with gluster storage?

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but is there anywhere some
documentation what the default vm disk format on a given storage backend
is and what storage format could be optionally selected and which
storage format is not supported on that
backend?

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Federico Simoncelli
- Original Message -
 From: Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com
 To: Demeter Tibor tdeme...@itsmart.hu
 Cc: users@ovirt.org, Allon Mureinik amure...@redhat.com, Federico 
 Simoncelli fsimo...@redhat.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:50:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?
 
 On 09/03/2014 11:14 AM, Demeter Tibor wrote:
  On shared glusterfs.
 
 
 Allon/Federico - I remember on NFS, qcow2 isn't used by default, since
 raw is sparse by default.
 (but i don't remember if it won't work, or just not enabled by default).
 
 can one create a qcow2 disk for a VM with gluster storage?

Yes through rest-api. From the ovirt-shell you could run:

 $ add disk \
   --vm-identifier vm_name \
   --provisioned_size size_in_bytes \
   --interface virtio \
   --name disk_name \
   --format cow \
   --sparse true \
   --storage_domains-storage_domain 
storage_domain.name=gluster_domain_name

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sven Kieske s.kie...@mittwald.de wrote:

 Am 03.09.2014 12:50, schrieb Itamar Heim:
  Allon/Federico - I remember on NFS, qcow2 isn't used by default, since
  raw is sparse by default.
  (but i don't remember if it won't work, or just not enabled by
 default).
 
  can one create a qcow2 disk for a VM with gluster storage?

 Sorry for hijacking this thread, but is there anywhere some
 documentation what the default vm disk format on a given storage backend
 is and what storage format could be optionally selected and which
 storage format is not supported on that
 backend?


As far as I know from official RHEV docs, the better reference page is this
(for RHEV 3.4):

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.4/html/Administration_Guide/Understanding_virtual_disks.html

But I don't see in that table a clear statement for GlusterFS... is it like
NFS?

Also, in my opinion, it would be nice to add, in the first column field,
the word (default) for the corresponding line if feasible.

Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Sven Kieske


Am 03.09.2014 15:09, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:

 As far as I know from official RHEV docs, the better reference page is this
 (for RHEV 3.4):
 
 https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.4/html/Administration_Guide/Understanding_virtual_disks.html

Thanks for the link.

Local storage is also missing there.

OT:
It's still a shame you can't open bugreports for rhev documentation
when you are no subscriber/customer, why not let others improve your
documentation for free?

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Sven Kieske s.kie...@mittwald.de wrote:


 OT:
 It's still a shame you can't open bugreports for rhev documentation
 when you are no subscriber/customer, why not let others improve your
 documentation for free?


I remember to have asked for something like that in the past on this list
and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open account 

see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211

Can we ask here a similar workflow?
Thanks in advance,

Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Sven Kieske


Am 03.09.2014 17:37, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:
 I remember to have asked for something like that in the past on this list
 and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
 bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open account 
 
 see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211
 
 Can we ask here a similar workflow?
 Thanks in advance,

Well yeah, that works somehow, but why can't I open
a bug on these docs? they are available to the public
anyway.

Everybody can investigate them for errors, but I need
a red hat guy to make a report if I find an error? really?

I think I just won't report any doc bugs anymore, because
red hat doesn't seem to want that.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards

Sven Kieske

Systemadministrator
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Königsberger Straße 6
32339 Espelkamp
T: +49-5772-293-100
F: +49-5772-293-333
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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Demeter Tibor
Hi,
So, what do you recommend for glusterfs?
I have try out on local storage with native qcow2 format and the vm still could 
start, but does not boot. It sad no bootable device found.
I convert to raw and it could boot without problems.

I will try out on my glusterfs based storage soon.

Thanks,
Tibor


- Eredeti üzenet -
 
 
 Am 03.09.2014 17:37, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:
  I remember to have asked for something like that in the past on this list
  and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
  bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open account 
  
  see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211
  
  Can we ask here a similar workflow?
  Thanks in advance,
 
 Well yeah, that works somehow, but why can't I open
 a bug on these docs? they are available to the public
 anyway.
 
 Everybody can investigate them for errors, but I need
 a red hat guy to make a report if I find an error? really?
 
 I think I just won't report any doc bugs anymore, because
 red hat doesn't seem to want that.
 
 --
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
 
 Sven Kieske
 
 Systemadministrator
 Mittwald CM Service GmbH  Co. KG
 Königsberger Straße 6
 32339 Espelkamp
 T: +49-5772-293-100
 F: +49-5772-293-333
 https://www.mittwald.de
 Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer
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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-03 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/03/2014 06:45 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:



Am 03.09.2014 17:37, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi:

I remember to have asked for something like that in the past on this list
and then Tim Hildred thild...@redhat.com  from Red Hat opened such a
bugzilla entry for me so that I could comment with my open account 

see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=954211

Can we ask here a similar workflow?
Thanks in advance,


Well yeah, that works somehow, but why can't I open
a bug on these docs? they are available to the public
anyway.

Everybody can investigate them for errors, but I need
a red hat guy to make a report if I find an error? really?

I think I just won't report any doc bugs anymore, because
red hat doesn't seem to want that.



for now, for lack of a better option, I suggest opening them on ovirt docs.
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[ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-02 Thread Demeter Tibor
Hi, 

I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like to copy 
to ovirt them. 
Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in any 
case? 
I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a long time. 

Thanks in advance 

Tibor 

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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-02 Thread Itamar Heim

On 09/02/2014 06:21 PM, Demeter Tibor wrote:

Hi,

I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like
to copy to ovirt them.
Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in
any case?
I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a
long time.

Thanks in advance

Tibor



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Re: [ovirt-users] Can I use qcow2?

2014-09-02 Thread Demeter Tibor
Hi,
Firstly, I don't want make an import domain. I just want to make a vm with same 
parameters (disk size,ram, etc) then replace the disk images with our original 
disks.

Tibor



- Eredeti üzenet -
 On 09/02/2014 06:21 PM, Demeter Tibor wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a lot of qcow2 based vm (from my kvm box) disks and I would like
  to copy to ovirt them.
  Ovirt can use qcow2 based images directly or I need to convert to raw in
  any case?
  I don't have long time for migration, the conversion process takes a
  long time.
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Tibor
 
 
 
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