Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
- Original Message -
 From: Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com
 To: Kostyrev Aleksandr kosty...@tutu.ru, Users users@ovirt.org, 
 Martin Sivak msi...@redhat.com, Yedidyah
 Bar David d...@redhat.com, Fabian Deutsch fabi...@redhat.com
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:44:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted 
 engine cluster
 
 Il 30/03/2015 08:40, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
  Il 25/03/2015 14:32, Kostyrev Aleksandr ha scritto:
  Good day!
 
  I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three
  ovirt-nodes that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
  Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is possible?
  My plan was:
  1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
  2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running
  engine
  
  I think you should use Hosted Engine global maintenance while doing this.
  If for some reason the gateway configured in hosted_engine.conf become
  unreachable I'm not sure it won't try to migrate the VM.
  Adding Martin to the loop.
  
 
 Also if for some reason the storage become unavailable during the network
 settings update, the engine VM will be paused due to missing storage.
 I'm not sure about what will happen with the SSL certificates, didi?

In 3.5+, the certs all use the hostnames, which I understand are not intended
to be changed, so no issue there.

If some of the hosts were deployed with = 3.4 and upgraded, the certs will
use the IP address, and this will not change unless you manually reinstall
(re-deploy?). Didn't try that. I guess at least some things will fail.

 
  3. change network settings in engine node
  4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
  5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each
  other
  6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
  7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
  8. activate nodes
  9. start vms
 
  Does it make sense?
 
 If you manage to end successfully the migration it would be really nice to
 have a wiki page describing the steps you took for this task.

Indeed!

Best,
-- 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 30/03/2015 08:40, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
 Il 25/03/2015 14:32, Kostyrev Aleksandr ha scritto:
 Good day!

 I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three ovirt-nodes 
 that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
 Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is possible?
 My plan was:
 1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
 2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running engine
 
 I think you should use Hosted Engine global maintenance while doing this.
 If for some reason the gateway configured in hosted_engine.conf become 
 unreachable I'm not sure it won't try to migrate the VM.
 Adding Martin to the loop.
 

Also if for some reason the storage become unavailable during the network 
settings update, the engine VM will be paused due to missing storage.
I'm not sure about what will happen with the SSL certificates, didi?

 3. change network settings in engine node
 4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
 5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each 
 other
 6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
 7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
 8. activate nodes
 9. start vms

 Does it make sense?

If you manage to end successfully the migration it would be really nice to have 
a wiki page describing the steps you took for this task.



 
 


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Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 25/03/2015 14:32, Kostyrev Aleksandr ha scritto:
 Good day!
 
 I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three ovirt-nodes 
 that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
 Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is possible?
 My plan was:
 1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
 2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running engine

I think you should use Hosted Engine global maintenance while doing this.
If for some reason the gateway configured in hosted_engine.conf become 
unreachable I'm not sure it won't try to migrate the VM.
Adding Martin to the loop.

 3. change network settings in engine node
 4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
 5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each other
 6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
 7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
 8. activate nodes
 9. start vms
 
 Does it make sense?
 


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Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Martin Sivak
Hi,

the steps make good sense indeed, but use global maintenance mode as Sandro 
suggested.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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msi...@redhat.com
Red Hat Czech
RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ

- Original Message -
 - Original Message -
  From: Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com
  To: Kostyrev Aleksandr kosty...@tutu.ru, Users users@ovirt.org,
  Martin Sivak msi...@redhat.com, Yedidyah
  Bar David d...@redhat.com, Fabian Deutsch fabi...@redhat.com
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:44:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted
  engine cluster
  
  Il 30/03/2015 08:40, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
   Il 25/03/2015 14:32, Kostyrev Aleksandr ha scritto:
   Good day!
  
   I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three
   ovirt-nodes that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
   Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is
   possible?
   My plan was:
   1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
   2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running
   engine
   
   I think you should use Hosted Engine global maintenance while doing this.
   If for some reason the gateway configured in hosted_engine.conf become
   unreachable I'm not sure it won't try to migrate the VM.
   Adding Martin to the loop.
   
  
  Also if for some reason the storage become unavailable during the network
  settings update, the engine VM will be paused due to missing storage.
  I'm not sure about what will happen with the SSL certificates, didi?
 
 In 3.5+, the certs all use the hostnames, which I understand are not intended
 to be changed, so no issue there.
 
 If some of the hosts were deployed with = 3.4 and upgraded, the certs will
 use the IP address, and this will not change unless you manually reinstall
 (re-deploy?). Didn't try that. I guess at least some things will fail.
 
  
   3. change network settings in engine node
   4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
   5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each
   other
   6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
   7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
   8. activate nodes
   9. start vms
  
   Does it make sense?
  
  If you manage to end successfully the migration it would be really nice to
  have a wiki page describing the steps you took for this task.
 
 Indeed!
 
 Best,
 --
 Didi
 
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Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
- Original Message -
 From: Martin Sivak msi...@redhat.com
 To: Yedidyah Bar David d...@redhat.com
 Cc: Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com, Kostyrev Aleksandr 
 kosty...@tutu.ru, Users users@ovirt.org,
 Fabian Deutsch fabi...@redhat.com
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 11:44:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted 
 engine cluster
 
 Hi,
 
 the steps make good sense indeed, but use global maintenance mode as Sandro
 suggested.
 
 Good luck and keep us posted.
 
 --
 Martin Sivák
 msi...@redhat.com
 Red Hat Czech
 RHEV-M SLA / Brno, CZ
 
 - Original Message -
  - Original Message -
   From: Sandro Bonazzola sbona...@redhat.com
   To: Kostyrev Aleksandr kosty...@tutu.ru, Users users@ovirt.org,
   Martin Sivak msi...@redhat.com, Yedidyah
   Bar David d...@redhat.com, Fabian Deutsch fabi...@redhat.com
   Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:44:05 AM
   Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted
   engine cluster
   
   Il 30/03/2015 08:40, Sandro Bonazzola ha scritto:
Il 25/03/2015 14:32, Kostyrev Aleksandr ha scritto:
Good day!
   
I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three
ovirt-nodes that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is
possible?
My plan was:
1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running
engine

I think you should use Hosted Engine global maintenance while doing
this.
If for some reason the gateway configured in hosted_engine.conf become
unreachable I'm not sure it won't try to migrate the VM.
Adding Martin to the loop.

   
   Also if for some reason the storage become unavailable during the network
   settings update, the engine VM will be paused due to missing storage.
   I'm not sure about what will happen with the SSL certificates, didi?
  
  In 3.5+, the certs all use the hostnames, which I understand are not
  intended
  to be changed, so no issue there.

That would actually be 3.5.1+.

  
  If some of the hosts were deployed with = 3.4 and upgraded, the certs will
  use the IP address, and this will not change unless you manually reinstall
  (re-deploy?). Didn't try that. I guess at least some things will fail.
  
   
3. change network settings in engine node
4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping
each
other
6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
8. activate nodes
9. start vms
   
Does it make sense?
   
   If you manage to end successfully the migration it would be really nice
   to
   have a wiki page describing the steps you took for this task.
  
  Indeed!
  
  Best,
  --
  Didi
  
 

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Re: [ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-30 Thread Gianluca Cecchi

4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each
other

what about step 5? How do you manage it if engine is down?
Manually on all nodes? And then what if you have persistence of network
config in place?

Gianluca
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[ovirt-users] Change network of ovirt-nodes of a self-hosted engine cluster

2015-03-25 Thread Kostyrev Aleksandr

Good day!

I'm in position when I have to change network settings of three 
ovirt-nodes that comprise my cluster with hosted engine.
Am I correct that to change network is not a big deal and it is 
possible?

My plan was:
1. shutdown all vms (except engine itself) on all nodes.
2. enable maintenance mode on all nodes, except the one with running 
engine

3. change network settings in engine node
4. shut engine down with hosted-engine --vm-stop
5. change network settings on all nodes, verify that nodes can ping each 
other

6. start engine with hosted-engine --vm-start
7. change VLAN tag at Logical Network for VMs
8. activate nodes
9. start vms

Does it make sense?

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