Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

Well you can always run the engine on a physical node directly too.
The question is why would you want that when hosted engine gives you
fail-over and reliability features.


Failover & reliability are definitely worth having


So I would install Node on all four hosts, enable all of them for
hosted engine and enable three of them for Gluster if hyperconverged
is what your want.


Hyperconverged is what I want.
There does not seem to be a good reason to have a 4th node, so I'll take 
your advice & go 3 nodes + hosted engine.


On 2017-06-06 01:34, Martin Sivak wrote:

Hi,


Real hardware: what I meant to say was I have 4 hosts (not vm's).
If I understand you correctly, I should install oVirt Node (using the 
iso)

on 3 of my hosts & the hosted engine runs as a vm on "Host 1"?


Hosted engine runs as VM on one of the hosts. But not necessarily on
the first one (it can even move if it decides so).


Why can't the hosted engine run on its own host?


Well you can always run the engine on a physical node directly too.
The question is why would you want that when hosted engine gives you
fail-over and reliability features.

So I would install Node on all four hosts, enable all of them for
hosted engine and enable three of them for Gluster if hyperconverged
is what your want.

Best regards

--
Martin Sivak
SLA / oVirt

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 AM,   wrote:

Sandro, thx for the reply.
Once I get comfortable with oVirt + CentOS, then I'll go & use Fedora 
25/26

and contribute!

Real hardware: what I meant to say was I have 4 hosts (not vm's).
If I understand you correctly, I should install oVirt Node (using the 
iso)

on 3 of my hosts & the hosted engine runs as a vm on "Host 1"?

Why can't the hosted engine run on its own host?


On 2017-06-06 03:29, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:


On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM,  wrote:


I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)



Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort 
task.

There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development
team.
That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-)

I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you 
talk

about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence.
Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor
nodes and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment.
You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using
cockpit.


What is the install process?

On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:

Sandro,
If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
install process?

The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
dedicated SAN for the storage.
If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node
on
3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.

You can find an installation guide here:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/
[1]

Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done
manually?

If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
more info here:



http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/


[2]
Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
feature still in WIP while it's been released.

Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
deployed in & how are people getting tech support?

About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/ [3]
If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the
community:
this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look
here
for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/ [4]

On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

I assume people are using oVirt in production?

Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [5] [1]
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [6]
[2]
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
learning.

On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:

Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Martin Sivak]

Hi,

> Real hardware: what I meant to say was I have 4 hosts (not vm's).
> If I understand you correctly, I should install oVirt Node (using the iso)
> on 3 of my hosts & the hosted engine runs as a vm on "Host 1"?

Hosted engine runs as VM on one of the hosts. But not necessarily on
the first one (it can even move if it decides so).

> Why can't the hosted engine run on its own host?

Well you can always run the engine on a physical node directly too.
The question is why would you want that when hosted engine gives you
fail-over and reliability features.

So I would install Node on all four hosts, enable all of them for
hosted engine and enable three of them for Gluster if hyperconverged
is what your want.

Best regards

--
Martin Sivak
SLA / oVirt

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 AM,   wrote:
> Sandro, thx for the reply.
> Once I get comfortable with oVirt + CentOS, then I'll go & use Fedora 25/26
> and contribute!
>
> Real hardware: what I meant to say was I have 4 hosts (not vm's).
> If I understand you correctly, I should install oVirt Node (using the iso)
> on 3 of my hosts & the hosted engine runs as a vm on "Host 1"?
>
> Why can't the hosted engine run on its own host?
>
>
> On 2017-06-06 03:29, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>> I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
>>> 3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)
>>
>>
>> Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort task.
>> There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development
>> team.
>> That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you talk
>> about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence.
>> Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor
>> nodes and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment.
>> You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using
>> cockpit.
>>
>>> What is the install process?
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sandro,
>>> If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
>>> install process?
>>>
>>> The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
>>> You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
>>> setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
>>> dedicated SAN for the storage.
>>> If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node
>>> on
>>> 3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
>>> hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.
>>>
>>> You can find an installation guide here:
>>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done
>>> manually?
>>>
>>> If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
>>> more info here:
>>>
>>
>> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/
>>>
>>> [2]
>>> Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
>>> feature still in WIP while it's been released.
>>>
>>> Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
>>> deployed in & how are people getting tech support?
>>>
>>> About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
>>> http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/ [3]
>>> If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
>>> Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
>>> additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
>>> Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the
>>> community:
>>> this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look
>>> here
>>> for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/ [4]
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> I assume people are using oVirt in production?
>>>
>>> Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
>>> virtualization :-)
>>> Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
>>> have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [5] [1]
>>> and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [6]
>>> [2]
>>> to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
>>> learning.
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/
>>>
>>> [7]
>>> [3]
>>> [1]
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
>>> vm's).
>>>
>>> Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?
>>>
>>> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm 

Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

Sandro, thx for the reply.
Once I get comfortable with oVirt + CentOS, then I'll go & use Fedora 
25/26 and contribute!


Real hardware: what I meant to say was I have 4 hosts (not vm's).
If I understand you correctly, I should install oVirt Node (using the 
iso) on 3 of my hosts & the hosted engine runs as a vm on "Host 1"?


Why can't the hosted engine run on its own host?

On 2017-06-06 03:29, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM,  wrote:


I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)


Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort task.
There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development
team.
That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-)

I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you talk
about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence.
Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor
nodes and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment.
You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using
cockpit.


What is the install process?

On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:

Sandro,
If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
install process?

The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
dedicated SAN for the storage.
If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node
on
3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.

You can find an installation guide here:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/
[1]

Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done
manually?

If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
more info here:


http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/

[2]
Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
feature still in WIP while it's been released.

Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
deployed in & how are people getting tech support?

About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/ [3]
If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the
community:
this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look
here
for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/ [4]

On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

I assume people are using oVirt in production?

Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [5] [1]
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [6]
[2]
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
learning.

On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[7]
[3]
[1]
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
___
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Users@ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4] [2] [2]

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[4]

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Links:
--
[1]



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[7]
[3]
[1]
[2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4] [2]
[3] https://www.redhat.com/
[4] https://red.ht/sig
[5] https://redhat.com/trusted

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[1]



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[7]
[3]
[2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [8] [4]
[3] https://www.redhat.com/
[4] https://red.ht/sig
[5] https://redhat.com/trusted

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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Sandro Bonazzola]

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:13 PM,  wrote:

> I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
> 3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)
>

Please note Fedora support within oVirt project is a best-effort task.
There's no testing of oVirt on Fedora done by the core development team.
That said, I would be happy if you contribute fedora testing :-)

I'm not sure to understand what you're looking into now since you talk
about real hardware and VMs in the same sentence.
Suggested minimal deployment is 3 real hardware hosts as hypervisor nodes
and hosted engine with hyperconverged deployment.
You can use oVirt Node iso in order to do the whole deployment using
cockpit.



> What is the install process?
>
>
> On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> Sandro,
>>> If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
>>> install process?
>>>
>>
>> The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
>> You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
>> setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
>> dedicated SAN for the storage.
>> If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node on
>> 3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
>> hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.
>>
>> You can find an installation guide here:
>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/
>>
>> Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually?
>>>
>>
>> If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
>> more info here:
>> http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/glu
>> ster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/
>> Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
>> feature still in WIP while it's been released.
>>
>> Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
>>> deployed in & how are people getting tech support?
>>>
>>
>> About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
>> http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/
>> If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
>> Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
>> additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
>> Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the community:
>> this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look here
>> for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/
>>
>> On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> I assume people are using oVirt in production?
>>>
>>> Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
>>> virtualization :-)
>>> Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
>>> have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [1]
>>> and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [2]
>>> to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
>>> learning.
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [3]
>>> [1]
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
>>> vm's).
>>>
>>> Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?
>>>
>>> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.
>>>
>>> Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
>>> ___
>>> Users mailing list
>>> Users@ovirt.org
>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4] [2] [2]
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>
>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R
>>>
>>> Red Hat EMEA [3]
>>>
>>> [4]
>>>
>>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [5]
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> --
>>> [1]
>>>
>>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [3]
>>> [1]
>>> [2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4] [2]
>>> [3] https://www.redhat.com/
>>> [4] https://red.ht/sig
>>> [5] https://redhat.com/trusted
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>>
>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R
>>>
>>> Red Hat EMEA [3]
>>>
>>> [4]
>>>
>>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [5]
>>>
>>> Links:
>>> --
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [3]
>>> [2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4]
>>> [3] https://www.redhat.com/
>>> [4] https://red.ht/sig
>>> [5] https://redhat.com/trusted
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
>>
>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R
>>
>> Red Hat EMEA [5]
>>
>>  [6]
>>
>> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [7]
>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> --

Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)

Since I don't want a nested setup, I assume the engine will require a 
4th vm.

What is the install process?

On 2017-06-05 16:13, ov...@fateknollogee.com wrote:

I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)
What is the install process?

On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:


Sandro,
If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
install process?


The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
dedicated SAN for the storage.
If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node on
3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.

You can find an installation guide here:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/


Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually?


If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
more info here:
http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/
Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
feature still in WIP while it's been released.


Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
deployed in & how are people getting tech support?


About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/
If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the community:
this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look here
for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/


On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

I assume people are using oVirt in production?

Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [1]
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [2]
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
learning.

On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[3]
[1]
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
___
Users mailing list
Users@ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4] [2] [2]

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[4]

TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. [5]

Links:
--
[1]



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[3]
[1]
[2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4] [2]
[3] https://www.redhat.com/
[4] https://red.ht/sig
[5] https://redhat.com/trusted

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[4]

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Links:
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[1]


http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[3]
[2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [4]
[3] https://www.redhat.com/
[4] https://red.ht/sig
[5] https://redhat.com/trusted


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Links:
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[1] http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
[2] https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
[3] 
http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

I want to test oVirt with real hardware, no more nested VMs.
3 hosts, each vm will be Fedora (maybe CentOS, I prefer Fedora)
What is the install process?

On 2017-05-30 02:42, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:


Sandro,
If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
install process?


The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged
setup or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more
dedicated SAN for the storage.
If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node on
3 hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and
hosted engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.

You can find an installation guide here:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/


Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually?


If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find
more info here:
http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/
Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the
feature still in WIP while it's been released.


Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being
deployed in & how are people getting tech support?


About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/
If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some
additions) subscription getting Red Hat support.
Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the community:
this mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look here
for other contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/


On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

I assume people are using oVirt in production?

Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ [1]
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo [2]
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your
learning.

On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[3]
[1]
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Sandro Bonazzola]

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:18 AM,  wrote:

> Sandro,
> If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the
> install process?
>

The install process depends on how you want to design your lab .
You can have a small deployment with just 3 hosts in hyperconverged setup
or a large datacenter with 200 hypervisors and one or more dedicated SAN
for the storage.
If you go with an hyperconverged setup, you can install oVirt Node on 3
hosts and then on one of them use cockpit to deploy gluster and hosted
engine on top of it in hyperconverged mode.

You can find an installation guide here:
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/install-guide/Installation_Guide/



> Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually?
>

If you go with hyperconverged mode it's now automated. You can find more
info here:
http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/gluster/gdeploy-cockpit-integration/
Sahina, please ensure above link is updated. I see it shows the feature
still in WIP while it's been released.




>
> Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being deployed in
> & how are people getting tech support?


About use cases for oVirt you can find some examples here:
http://www.ovirt.org/community/user-stories/users-and-providers/
If you want dedicated support, I would recommend to get a Red Hat
Virtualization (which is oVirt with technical support and some additions)
subscription getting Red Hat support.
Another place to get support if you stay with oVirt is the community: this
mailing list, the IRC channel and social media, have a look here for other
contacts: http://www.ovirt.org/community/






>
>
> On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:
>>
>> I assume people are using oVirt in production?
>>>
>>
>> Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
>> virtualization :-)
>> Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
>> have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
>> and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
>> to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning.
>>
>> On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [1]
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
>>> vm's).
>>>
>>> Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?
>>>
>>> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.
>>>
>>> Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> [1]
>>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [1]
>>> [2] http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users [2]
>>> [3] https://www.redhat.com/
>>> [4] https://red.ht/sig
>>> [5] https://redhat.com/trusted
>>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Links:
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>> with-nested-kvm/
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Misak Khachatryan]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Sandro Bonazzola 
> wrote:


On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 
> wrote:
I assume people are using oVirt in production?

Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to have a 
look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning.



Hello,

I work for ISP, and we use EVE-NG for our virtual lab, which is very useful to 
test changes we plan to use in network. EVE NG recommend to have nested 
virtualization enabled, as it's itself also some kind of hypervisor.


Best regards,
Misak Khachatryan,
Network Administration and
Monitoring Department Manager,

GNC- ALFA CJSC
1 Khaghaghutyan str., Abovyan, 2201 Armenia
Tel: +374 60 46 99 70 (9670),
Mob.: +374 93 19 98 40
URL:www.rtarmenia.am



On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM, 
> wrote:


http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

Sandro,
If & when one decides to "graduate" & use real hardware, what is the 
install process?

Is the gluster part still automated or that has to be done manually?

Another question, what type of use cases & jobs is oVirt being deployed 
in & how are people getting tech support?


On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:


I assume people are using oVirt in production?


Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning.


On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:



http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[1]
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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[1]
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

Thank you for the link.
I will definitely check it out.

On 2017-05-29 04:33, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:


I assume people are using oVirt in production?


Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested
virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to
have a look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning.


On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:






http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[1]
[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Sandro Bonazzola]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

> I assume people are using oVirt in production?


Sure, I was just wondering why you were running in nested virtualization :-)
Being your use case a "playground" environment, I can suggest you to have a
look at Lago http://lago.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
and at Lago demo at https://github.com/lago-project/lago-demo
to help you preparing an isolated test environment for your learning.




>
>
> On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
>> with-nested-kvm/
>>
>>> [1]
>>>
>>> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
>>> vm's).
>>>
>>
>> Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?
>>
>> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.
>>>
>>> Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
>>> ___
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

I assume people are using oVirt in production?

On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:




http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).


Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?


I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

For now, it is just for me to learn.
If I like the solution, I will then build a POC with "real" hardware 
(which I already have).

Then I can deploy at my colo for clients.


On 2017-05-29 04:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:




http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

[1]

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are
vm's).


Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?


I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Sandro Bonazzola]

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM,  wrote:

> http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-
> with-nested-kvm/
>
> I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are vm's).
>

Hi, can you please share the use case for this setup?




> I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.
>
> Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?
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Re: [ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto]

Il 29 mag 2017 12:48 AM,  ha scritto:

http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are vm's).
I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

Should I install vdsm-hook-macspoof on the 3x node vm's?


Hello,

You should install macspoof hook on the host you're using for
virtualization, not on the guests.

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[ovirt-users] Nested KVM for oVirt 4.1.2

[ovirt]

http://community.redhat.com/blog/2013/08/testing-ovirt-3-3-with-nested-kvm/

I have one CentOS7 host (physical) & 3x oVirt nodes 4.1.2 (these are 
vm's).

I have installed vdsm-hook-nestedvm on the host.

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