Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

2015-02-24 Thread Itamar Heim

On 02/09/2015 04:50 AM, Raymond wrote:

Hi,
Long time read-only user here :)
Unfortunately I need some info which I can't seem to find in the archives and 
on Google.

In the past 5 months we’ve had two very rare occasions of power failures in my 
hometown.
First one was a ms during spike or drop, just enough to cause a reboot, the 
other was a 30min failure.

Problem
After the power failure my ovirt nodes boot into CentOS 6.6 and are running 
fine.
In both cases my ovirt-engine-VM wouldn't start due to service Postgresql not 
starting.
I tried some things before reverting back to an older DB snapshot that was on 
the VM disk, but still not working.
Postgresql is not starting due to Duplicate UUID

My solution
Calm down girlfriend and don't sleep
Reinstall 1 node, create new ovirt-engine, recreate VM's and copy VM disk data 
from old store to new store.
Add second node

Other solutions I can think of
1. Start cluster without reinstall ;)
2. Buy UPS (€150 one time, extra €60 yearly power usage = €450 in 5 years)

At this moment I’m 1 click away from buying the UPS, but I prefer a more 
elegant solution.

After the last power failure I did NOT reinstall my second ovirt node and the 
old engine is also on storage available.
Is there someone that wants some data to troubleshoot/analyse?

Or is this just one of those things? Buy the UPS and get on with your life?

Short HW overview
2x ovirt 3.5.x (i3/32GB ram,1Gb eth VM network, dual x520 NFS eth)
1x NFS (i3/4GB ram, 5TB SAS and 6TB SATA on Dell PERC,1Gb eth mgmt, dual x520 
10Gb)

1Gb is used for VM networking, the 10Gb is connected via DAC cables and runs 
NFS-storage.
This works great! Whole cluster runs below 120w and VM disk performance is 
around 700MB/s :)
I bought all the HW with power usage in mind, PicoPSU's and 35w CPU's in all 
nodes.
So adding 30w extra just for the UPS feels a bit like killing an elephant 
with tissues...

kind regards
Raymond
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if your DC is 3.5, you don't need to copy the vm disks, just install new 
engine and import the data domain

http://www.ovirt.org/Features/ImportStorageDomain

(i assume there is a way to fix the postgres issue itself as well)
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Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

2015-02-13 Thread Greg Sheremeta


- Original Message -
 From: Sven Kieske s.kie...@mittwald.de
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:23:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery
 
 On 09/02/15 10:50, Raymond wrote:
  Other solutions I can think of
  1. Start cluster without reinstall ;)
  2. Buy UPS (€150 one time, extra €60 yearly power usage = €450 in 5 years)
  
  At this moment I’m 1 click away from buying the UPS, but I prefer a more
  elegant solution.
 
 Well imho the elegant solution _is_ to get a UPS :)
 
 welcome to the list btw

Indeed. You really do need a UPS. Especially for any databases -- power loss
during database operations is usually very bad for the database. Pre-UPS, I've
experienced similar issues with MySQL that backed my mail server.

Now every machine in our house (including game consoles -- PS4 gets *really*
mad when he loses power) has a UPS.

If your power supply is new-ish, you may need a true sine-wave UPS. I like
Cyberpower ones, if for no other reason than to prevent an APC monopoly :)

Best wishes,
Greg


 
 --
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
 
 Sven Kieske
 
 Systemadministrator
 Mittwald CM Service GmbH  Co. KG
 Königsberger Straße 6
 32339 Espelkamp
 T: +49-5772-293-100
 F: +49-5772-293-333
 https://www.mittwald.de
 Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer
 St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen
 Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen
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[ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

2015-02-13 Thread Raymond
Hi,
Long time read-only user here :)
Unfortunately I need some info which I can't seem to find in the archives and 
on Google.

In the past 5 months we’ve had two very rare occasions of power failures in my 
hometown.
First one was a ms during spike or drop, just enough to cause a reboot, the 
other was a 30min failure.

Problem
After the power failure my ovirt nodes boot into CentOS 6.6 and are running 
fine.
In both cases my ovirt-engine-VM wouldn't start due to service Postgresql not 
starting.
I tried some things before reverting back to an older DB snapshot that was on 
the VM disk, but still not working.
Postgresql is not starting due to Duplicate UUID

My solution
Calm down girlfriend and don't sleep
Reinstall 1 node, create new ovirt-engine, recreate VM's and copy VM disk data 
from old store to new store.
Add second node

Other solutions I can think of
1. Start cluster without reinstall ;)
2. Buy UPS (€150 one time, extra €60 yearly power usage = €450 in 5 years)

At this moment I’m 1 click away from buying the UPS, but I prefer a more 
elegant solution.

After the last power failure I did NOT reinstall my second ovirt node and the 
old engine is also on storage available.
Is there someone that wants some data to troubleshoot/analyse?

Or is this just one of those things? Buy the UPS and get on with your life?

Short HW overview
2x ovirt 3.5.x (i3/32GB ram,1Gb eth VM network, dual x520 NFS eth)
1x NFS (i3/4GB ram, 5TB SAS and 6TB SATA on Dell PERC,1Gb eth mgmt, dual x520 
10Gb)

1Gb is used for VM networking, the 10Gb is connected via DAC cables and runs 
NFS-storage.
This works great! Whole cluster runs below 120w and VM disk performance is 
around 700MB/s :)
I bought all the HW with power usage in mind, PicoPSU's and 35w CPU's in all 
nodes.
So adding 30w extra just for the UPS feels a bit like killing an elephant 
with tissues...

kind regards
Raymond
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Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

2015-02-13 Thread Sven Kieske
On 09/02/15 10:50, Raymond wrote:
 Other solutions I can think of
 1. Start cluster without reinstall ;)
 2. Buy UPS (€150 one time, extra €60 yearly power usage = €450 in 5 years)
 
 At this moment I’m 1 click away from buying the UPS, but I prefer a more 
 elegant solution.

Well imho the elegant solution _is_ to get a UPS :)

welcome to the list btw

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards

Sven Kieske

Systemadministrator
Mittwald CM Service GmbH  Co. KG
Königsberger Straße 6
32339 Espelkamp
T: +49-5772-293-100
F: +49-5772-293-333
https://www.mittwald.de
Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer
St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen
Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen
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Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

2015-02-13 Thread Raymond
Tx for the reply's!

I'm thinking about a setup with NUT : http://www.networkupstools.org/
In that case APC is not a real option, but Eaton is.
Glanced at the Ellipse PRO : 
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/415636/eaton-ellipse-pro-650-din.html
Nice shinny display on the front and fully supported by NUT in the back.

Just wanted to check if I could get around the power issue without too much 
investment ;)
And as the power in NL is quite good is one of the last things you will see 
here in a home cluster.
I'm a home programmer and usually use Mysql, most of the time it survives 
stupid mistakes.

kind regards
Raymond



- Original Message -
From: Greg Sheremeta gsher...@redhat.com
To: users users@ovirt.org
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 3:28:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery

- Original Message -
 From: Sven Kieske s.kie...@mittwald.de
 To: users@ovirt.org
 Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:23:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Ovirt 3.5.x Power failure recovery
 
 On 09/02/15 10:50, Raymond wrote:
  Other solutions I can think of
  1. Start cluster without reinstall ;)
  2. Buy UPS (€150 one time, extra €60 yearly power usage = €450 in 5 years)
  
  At this moment I’m 1 click away from buying the UPS, but I prefer a more
  elegant solution.
 
 Well imho the elegant solution _is_ to get a UPS :)
 
 welcome to the list btw

Indeed. You really do need a UPS. Especially for any databases -- power loss
during database operations is usually very bad for the database. Pre-UPS, I've
experienced similar issues with MySQL that backed my mail server.

Now every machine in our house (including game consoles -- PS4 gets *really*
mad when he loses power) has a UPS.

If your power supply is new-ish, you may need a true sine-wave UPS. I like
Cyberpower ones, if for no other reason than to prevent an APC monopoly :)

Best wishes,
Greg


 
 --
 Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Regards
 
 Sven Kieske
 
 Systemadministrator
 Mittwald CM Service GmbH  Co. KG
 Königsberger Straße 6
 32339 Espelkamp
 T: +49-5772-293-100
 F: +49-5772-293-333
 https://www.mittwald.de
 Geschäftsführer: Robert Meyer
 St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen
 Komplementärin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynhausen
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