[ovirt-users] Re: About the cluster compatibility version

2021-07-30 Thread tommy
You have a point. I am increasingly aware of the importance of
documentation, especially good documentation that clearly illustrates the
history of development, which can help readers quickly get started with
software systems.




-Original Message-
From: Vojtech Juranek  
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 4:21 PM
To: tommy 
Cc: users@ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] About the cluster compatibility version

On Friday, 30 July 2021 09:51:08 CEST you wrote:
> I still find a lot of errors in the document, but I don't know how to
help?
> Can you tell me the steps to improve the documentation?

you need to find appropriate document, fix it and send a pull request.
There's a README [1] with the step in oVirt site git repo [1] or if you want
to send a pull request, you can find guide how to do it on [2].

Looking more into the original question you asked, it's maybe correct. I
don't know if we have any strict rules when cluster version is bumped, but
it seems in the past it was done mainly to ensure OS has specific features
provided advanced virtualization packages, which are usually available only
on specific OS version and higher. So in this case the documentation is
correct (and I was wrong in my previous answer), as OS version determines
packages available on the host and these determines capabilities of tools
(like libvirt, qemu) which oVirt is build upon.

Hopefully makes sense.


[1] https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/blob/master/README.md
[2] https://docs.github.com/en/github/collaborating-with-pull-requests/
proposing-changes-to-your-work-with-pull-requests/creating-a-pull-request

> I'd like to help in any way I can.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vojtech Juranek 
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:01 PM
> To: 'users' 
> Cc: tommy 
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] About the cluster compatibility version
> 
> On Friday, 30 July 2021 06:57:04 CEST tommy wrote:
> > From the document:
> > 
> > oVirt clusters have a compatibility version. The cluster 
> > compatibility version indicates the features of oVirt supported by 
> > all of the hosts in the cluster.
> > 
> > The cluster compatibility is set according to the version of the 
> > least capable host operating system in the cluster.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I didn't quite understand the last sentence.
> > 
> > How can the version of the cluster be determined based on the 
> > operating system version of the host?
> > 
> > Should the cluster compatibility version be determined based on the 
> > version of the oVirt engine on the host?
> 
> yes, it's not operating system version, but installed oVirt version on 
> the host (but not oVirt engine, there's only one engine and host 
> haven't engine installed).
> 
> Could you please improve the doc [1]?
> Thanks
> Vojta
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/edit/master/source/documentation/
> upgrade_guide/index.adoc


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[ovirt-users] Re: About the cluster compatibility version

2021-07-30 Thread Vojtech Juranek
On Friday, 30 July 2021 09:51:08 CEST you wrote:
> I still find a lot of errors in the document, but I don't know how to help?
> Can you tell me the steps to improve the documentation?

you need to find appropriate document, fix it and send a pull request. There's 
a 
README [1] with the step in oVirt site git repo [1] or if you want to send a 
pull request, you can find guide how to do it on [2].

Looking more into the original question you asked, it's maybe correct. I don't 
know if we have any strict rules when cluster version is bumped, but it seems 
in the past it was done mainly to ensure OS has specific features provided 
advanced virtualization packages, which are usually available only on specific 
OS version and higher. So in this case the documentation is correct (and I was 
wrong in my previous answer), as OS version determines packages available on 
the host and these determines capabilities of tools (like libvirt, qemu) which 
oVirt is build upon.

Hopefully makes sense.


[1] https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/blob/master/README.md
[2] https://docs.github.com/en/github/collaborating-with-pull-requests/
proposing-changes-to-your-work-with-pull-requests/creating-a-pull-request

> I'd like to help in any way I can.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Vojtech Juranek 
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:01 PM
> To: 'users' 
> Cc: tommy 
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] About the cluster compatibility version
> 
> On Friday, 30 July 2021 06:57:04 CEST tommy wrote:
> > From the document:
> > 
> > oVirt clusters have a compatibility version. The cluster compatibility
> > version indicates the features of oVirt supported by all of the hosts
> > in the cluster.
> > 
> > The cluster compatibility is set according to the version of the least
> > capable host operating system in the cluster.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I didn't quite understand the last sentence.
> > 
> > How can the version of the cluster be determined based on the
> > operating system version of the host?
> > 
> > Should the cluster compatibility version be determined based on the
> > version of the oVirt engine on the host?
> 
> yes, it's not operating system version, but installed oVirt version on the
> host (but not oVirt engine, there's only one engine and host haven't engine
> installed).
> 
> Could you please improve the doc [1]?
> Thanks
> Vojta
> 
> 
> [1] https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/edit/master/source/documentation/
> upgrade_guide/index.adoc



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[ovirt-users] Re: About the cluster compatibility version

2021-07-30 Thread Staniforth, Paul

Hello Tommy,

You can use github to report issues or edit the pages

if you look at the bottom of
https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/

Regards,
   Paul S.

From: tommy 
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I still find a lot of errors in the document, but I don't know how to help?
Can you tell me the steps to improve the documentation?
I'd like to help in any way I can.



-Original Message-
From: Vojtech Juranek 
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:01 PM
To: 'users' 
Cc: tommy 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] About the cluster compatibility version

On Friday, 30 July 2021 06:57:04 CEST tommy wrote:
> From the document:
>
> oVirt clusters have a compatibility version. The cluster compatibility
> version indicates the features of oVirt supported by all of the hosts
> in the cluster.
>
> The cluster compatibility is set according to the version of the least
> capable host operating system in the cluster.
>
>
>
> I didn't quite understand the last sentence.
>
> How can the version of the cluster be determined based on the
> operating system version of the host?
>
> Should the cluster compatibility version be determined based on the
> version of the oVirt engine on the host?

yes, it's not operating system version, but installed oVirt version on the
host (but not oVirt engine, there's only one engine and host haven't engine
installed).

Could you please improve the doc [1]?
Thanks
Vojta


[1] 
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FoVirt%2Fovirt-site%2Fedit%2Fmaster%2Fsource%2Fdocumentation%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Cp.staniforth%40leedsbeckett.ac.uk%7Ca4180ef06a604dbfdb9308d9533131ba%7Cd79a81124fbe417aa112cd0fb490d85c%7C0%7C0%7C637632293161677057%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=LNDPkmAjx1LJ5ptkaUWkTJqCzVGUaEhVaEl6HvP0g%2BU%3Dreserved=0
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[ovirt-users] Re: About the cluster compatibility version

2021-07-30 Thread tommy

I still find a lot of errors in the document, but I don't know how to help?
Can you tell me the steps to improve the documentation?
I'd like to help in any way I can.



-Original Message-
From: Vojtech Juranek  
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:01 PM
To: 'users' 
Cc: tommy 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] About the cluster compatibility version

On Friday, 30 July 2021 06:57:04 CEST tommy wrote:
> From the document:
> 
> oVirt clusters have a compatibility version. The cluster compatibility 
> version indicates the features of oVirt supported by all of the hosts 
> in the cluster.
> 
> The cluster compatibility is set according to the version of the least 
> capable host operating system in the cluster.
> 
> 
> 
> I didn't quite understand the last sentence.
> 
> How can the version of the cluster be determined based on the 
> operating system version of the host?
> 
> Should the cluster compatibility version be determined based on the 
> version of the oVirt engine on the host?

yes, it's not operating system version, but installed oVirt version on the
host (but not oVirt engine, there's only one engine and host haven't engine
installed).

Could you please improve the doc [1]?
Thanks
Vojta


[1] https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/edit/master/source/documentation/
upgrade_guide/index.adoc

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[ovirt-users] Re: About the cluster compatibility version

2021-07-30 Thread Vojtech Juranek
On Friday, 30 July 2021 06:57:04 CEST tommy wrote:
> From the document:
> 
> oVirt clusters have a compatibility version. The cluster compatibility
> version indicates the features of oVirt supported by all of the hosts in the
> cluster.
> 
> The cluster compatibility is set according to the version of the least
> capable host operating system in the cluster.
> 
> 
> 
> I didn't quite understand the last sentence.
> 
> How can the version of the cluster be determined based on the operating
> system version of the host?
> 
> Should the cluster compatibility version be determined based on the version
> of the oVirt engine on the host?

yes, it's not operating system version, but installed oVirt version on the 
host (but not oVirt engine, there's only one engine and host haven't engine 
installed).

Could you please improve the doc [1]?
Thanks
Vojta


[1] https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/edit/master/source/documentation/
upgrade_guide/index.adoc


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